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Never forget he is a Russian asset (Original Post) Baltimike Mar 2023 OP
Many Americans don't want to accept this fact. Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #1
yep; and media never mentions it Evolve Dammit Mar 2023 #19
And we know why the media doesn't cover this fact. Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #22
Not sure, but I bet fascism doesn't bother them much Evolve Dammit Mar 2023 #26
They are the propaganda arm for various groups. Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #29
Bill Barr said no collision, there's never been any indictment for dem4decades Mar 2023 #2
Read the Senate Report edhopper Mar 2023 #3
Yup and this report was overseen by republicans. Botany Mar 2023 #7
It is my contention Turbineguy Mar 2023 #12
Spot on. Joinfortmill Mar 2023 #15
What?!? Of all the things to say 'so what' about, this is NOT IT. Thuggish oligarchy. lostnfound Mar 2023 #4
I'm saying so what because why should I be all upset about it if the US dem4decades Mar 2023 #5
Sorry I missed the nuance, akin to sarcasm lostnfound Mar 2023 #9
"So what" is what those in authority were saying. lastlib Mar 2023 #6
Thank you. dem4decades Mar 2023 #10
AG Bill Barr SpamWyzer Mar 2023 #8
I agree about Barr, but no one charged Trump with crimes before Barr dem4decades Mar 2023 #11
I agree. Ferrets are Cool Mar 2023 #13
Don't forget Comey and Hillary's emails just before election Evolve Dammit Mar 2023 #20
I'll never forget that. Twice during elections my stomach dropped. The first time dem4decades Mar 2023 #24
yeah. I have not been the same since 2000 when the likes of Stone and Bolton were beating on the Evolve Dammit Mar 2023 #25
Exactly Joinfortmill Mar 2023 #17
It's been so long that these atrocities against our people and country have been going on but Hope22 Mar 2023 #14
Poes Law edhopper Mar 2023 #18
Do you remember The Moscow Project? Lonestarblue Mar 2023 #23
You can't possibly be serious. BannonsLiver Mar 2023 #27
I figured DoBW Mar 2023 #16
Which is why I can't believe people actually follow the Orange Vomit Moron SouthernDem4ever Mar 2023 #21
Just yesterday, he was talking about doing away with NATO and supporting Putin. kentuck Mar 2023 #28

Irish_Dem

(47,014 posts)
1. Many Americans don't want to accept this fact.
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 08:24 AM
Mar 2023

Trump and other GOP leaders are Russian puppets, installed and paid by Putin.
They spout his talking points weekly.
And are working to destroy our democracy.

dem4decades

(11,288 posts)
2. Bill Barr said no collision, there's never been any indictment for
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 08:32 AM
Mar 2023

Money laundering. Either Trump's innocent of all the Russian crimes he's been accused of or the government doesn't care.

Selling condos to Russians, the house in Florida to a Russian for twice what he paid, meetings with Russian money people- all legal.

Maybe Trump is correct, he is being unfairly accused or is it our own government didn't give a shit.

I always though his money came through Russia, but even if it did I guess so what?

edhopper

(33,575 posts)
3. Read the Senate Report
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 08:48 AM
Mar 2023

What Barr said was lies.

And who at the FBI was in charge of that investigation again? Oh yeah, the guy just arrested for being a Russian asset.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
7. Yup and this report was overseen by republicans.
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 09:00 AM
Mar 2023

A New Report Adds Evidence That Trump Was a Russian Asset
He helped Putin manipulate the U.S. election in 2020, as he did in 2016.

Anytime you hear about Hunter Biden and his lap top your are hearing a Russian talking point.

Donald Trump was a tool in a long-running Russian campaign to weaken the United States. That’s been documented in Republican-led investigative reports, and now it has been updated with new evidence, thanks to the U.S. Intelligence Community’s assessment of the 2020 election. The report, drafted by the CIA, the FBI, and several other agencies, was released in unclassified form on Tuesday, but it was presented in classified form on Jan. 7. In other words, it was compiled, written, and edited during Trump’s administration. It destroys his lies about the election, and it exposes him as a Russian asset.

The report debunks conspiracy theories, promoted by Trump and his lawyers, that hackers in other countries robbed him of victory. “We have no indications that any foreign actor attempted to interfere in the 2020 US elections by altering any technical aspect of the voting process,” including “ballot casting, vote tabulation, or reporting results,” says the document. A separate analysis released by the Department of Justice reaches the same conclusion. The IC report adds that evidence of such operations, if they existed, would have shown up in U.S. surveillance or in “post-election audits of electronic results and paper backups.” The report implicitly mocks insinuations from Trump’s lawyers that former Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez, who died in 2013, somehow rigged Trump’s defeat. “We have no information,” it notes drily, that “current or former Venezuelan regimes were involved in attempts to compromise US election infrastructure.”

snip

As to Russia, the report leaves no doubt: In 2020, as in 2016, “President Putin authorized, and a range of Russian government organizations conducted, influence operations” to help Trump and hurt his Democratic opponent. For example, “Shortly after the 2018 midterm elections, Russian intelligence cyber actors attempted to hack organizations primarily affiliated with the Democratic Party.” Then, in late 2019, Russia’s military intelligence service, the GRU, “conducted a phishing campaign against subsidiaries of Burisma holdings, likely in an attempt to gather information related to President Biden’s family.” Throughout the 2020 election, agents “connected to the Russian Federal Security Service,” FSB, planted negative stories about Biden. Internet operatives working for the Kremlin, including the troll farm that had boosted Trump in 2016, continued to promote “Trump and his commentary, including repeating his political messaging.”

Attacks on Biden and his son, Hunter, were part of this operation. Through “US officials and prominent US individuals, some of whom were close to former President Trump and his administration,” the report says Russia’s intelligence services “repeatedly spread unsubstantiated or misleading claims about President Biden and his family’s alleged wrongdoing related to Ukraine.” In this way, Trump’s circle “laundered” the Russian-planted stories, which were then recirculated—and promoted by Russia’s online proxies—as American news.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/03/trump-russian-asset-election-intelligence-community-report.html

Turbineguy

(37,324 posts)
12. It is my contention
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 09:36 AM
Mar 2023

that this program goes back to the Brezhnev years. Against Jimmy Carter. Putin just dusted it off and put it into action again.

lostnfound

(16,177 posts)
4. What?!? Of all the things to say 'so what' about, this is NOT IT. Thuggish oligarchy.
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 08:50 AM
Mar 2023

Putin has spent his years poisoning with polonium, shooting, and pushing his opponents out windows, and sometimes their children, to enforce his corrupt and brutal power structure.

Fear is the replacement for a democratic government.

Money laundering is part of their power structure.

lostnfound

(16,177 posts)
9. Sorry I missed the nuance, akin to sarcasm
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 09:13 AM
Mar 2023

I guess it’s just frustrating and one does feel like giving up, that something so obviously harmful is allowed to go unchecked.

 

SpamWyzer

(385 posts)
8. AG Bill Barr
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 09:09 AM
Mar 2023

is as corrupt a lawyer as has ever sat in a courtroom. His ability to whitewash and hide crimes for his leader and bosses is legendary. When he was chosen, I said to my since departed wife "This is tRump's fixer for the Russia scandal." Duh
As for selling real estate to foreign dignitaries and well-connected politicians and oligarchs, it isn't illegal. But money laundering is. Tax evasion is. And fraud is. Go to jail tRump, it has been waiting for you since you were born. LOSER 45.

dem4decades

(11,288 posts)
11. I agree about Barr, but no one charged Trump with crimes before Barr
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 09:22 AM
Mar 2023

And as yet, after Barr. So it isn't just Barr. Cohen went to jail years ago for doing Trump's criminal activity, yet Trump still doesn't pay.

Georgia, NY, Manhattan, all looking into charges that the Feds should be handling but they are left to twist in the breeze by themselves with no federal help.

And you may say Jack Smith, but he's a Johnny come lately and that Investigation should be years old.

And just an FYI, Biden had a SP named to investigate him at the drop of a hat.

A SP for Trump takes years but a SP for Biden takes hours?

The DOJ sucks.

dem4decades

(11,288 posts)
24. I'll never forget that. Twice during elections my stomach dropped. The first time
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 11:41 AM
Mar 2023

Was in 2000 when the changed Florida from Gore to undecided. I knew right then the election was gone. The second time was the day Comey announced the investigation into Hillary was reopened. I knew then the powers that be stole another one.

And fuck that self serving sanctimonious prick Comey, may he rot in hell.

Evolve Dammit

(16,725 posts)
25. yeah. I have not been the same since 2000 when the likes of Stone and Bolton were beating on the
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 07:41 PM
Mar 2023

doors to stop the recount. Bussed down from DC. Fuck all Repukes. I'm sure there were many others we would all recognize, but those are the two that "stand out." Both dickheads to the nth degree.

Hope22

(1,827 posts)
14. It's been so long that these atrocities against our people and country have been going on but
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 09:54 AM
Mar 2023

Remember Bill Barr is a liar as are most of Trumps people. Many Americans do care that Trump sold us out to Russia. It All Matters!

Lonestarblue

(9,981 posts)
23. Do you remember The Moscow Project?
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 11:08 AM
Mar 2023

It was created to lay out the links between Trump and Russia. I haven’t read anything there since early in Trump’s presidency, and I don’t know how accurate their information is, but I think that’s where I read speculation that Trump was actually an FBI informant. The argument was that every time it appeared that he was about to face charges in New York or New Jersey (for example, money laundering in his casino), nothing happened and he was allowed to pay a fine. Certainly, law enforcement in New York and New Jersey knew he was committing crimes, but he might have been protected by the FBI if he was providing inside information on the mafia, with whom he had numerous contacts. Speculation, of course, but it’s one explanation of why he has never been held accountable for any crimes.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
21. Which is why I can't believe people actually follow the Orange Vomit Moron
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 10:41 AM
Mar 2023

SMH. Something's seriously wrong with those people.

kentuck

(111,089 posts)
28. Just yesterday, he was talking about doing away with NATO and supporting Putin.
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 08:33 PM
Mar 2023

He has never failed to support Putin over America. Never.

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