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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Mon Mar 20, 2023, 08:52 AM Mar 2023

Aw, this is just TRAGIC. If DeSantis is pulled into a Trump indictment, he's effed no matter what.

Let's say Trump decides to go full gangster and plant his ass in Mar-a-Lago and say "COME GET ME."

IF DeSantis approves an extradition order, he becomes the enemy of Trump's base, which means "bye bye 2024."

IF he backs TRUMP, DeSantis could face criminal charges, because refusal to authorize an extradition order would be dereliction of duty in his role as Governor of Florida.

IF this is being whispered, it's also made it to Trump's ear. If he wanted to take DeSantis out of the equation, this would certainly be one way to do it.

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Aw, this is just TRAGIC. If DeSantis is pulled into a Trump indictment, he's effed no matter what. (Original Post) Miles Archer Mar 2023 OP
DeSatan only cares about himself......... Lovie777 Mar 2023 #1
He IS Trump without the "charm." Miles Archer Mar 2023 #2
DeSantis only extradites by the busload bucolic_frolic Mar 2023 #3
Time for him to woke up multigraincracker Mar 2023 #4
Courting the exceedingly gullible seems easy at first: But then you realize others can steal your lindysalsagal Mar 2023 #5
Dereliction and obstruction of justice. 2naSalit Mar 2023 #6
A question PJMcK Mar 2023 #7
I Wondered About This RobinA Mar 2023 #11
Two parts to it Miles Archer Mar 2023 #15
That's informative PJMcK Mar 2023 #17
I do not believe that Trump will resist arrest. Too much to lose, too little to gain. Chainfire Mar 2023 #8
The ARREST...in his mindset...packs a MIGHTY payload in terms of fundraising Miles Archer Mar 2023 #16
No way DeSantis extradites Trump jcgoldie Mar 2023 #9
Fun idea, but governors don't have authority over federal extraditions. Hortensis Mar 2023 #10
I think this is sooooo stupid Dorian Gray Mar 2023 #12
This video is a very good analysis of this situation: panader0 Mar 2023 #13
Recommended. H2O Man Mar 2023 #14
Very clever move by New York fescuerescue Mar 2023 #18
Mutual Assured Destruction. Tommy Carcetti Mar 2023 #19

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
2. He IS Trump without the "charm."
Mon Mar 20, 2023, 09:00 AM
Mar 2023

And I say that as someone who does not believe Trump has ANY "charm."

He DOES have a way to cast a spell, to make people believe his nonsense, to believe the TV character created by Mark Burnett for The Apprentice is actually who he is in real life, DESPITE his SIX bankruptcies.

DeSantis is basically a humorless authoritarian, but in terms of negative character traits, he IS Trump.

lindysalsagal

(20,680 posts)
5. Courting the exceedingly gullible seems easy at first: But then you realize others can steal your
Mon Mar 20, 2023, 09:31 AM
Mar 2023

rubes. Sucks to be a huckster.

PJMcK

(22,035 posts)
7. A question
Mon Mar 20, 2023, 10:17 AM
Mar 2023

You wrote that if DeSantis refuses to authorize and extradition order would be a criminal offense. Are you sure? It would seem to be a States Rights issue that would require review in a Federal Court.

Dereliction of duty sounds like an impeachment issue to be considered by the Florida legislature rather than a prosecutor.

Could you explain a little more, please?

It's a great idea, though!

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
11. I Wondered About This
Mon Mar 20, 2023, 03:11 PM
Mar 2023

myself. If not signing an extradition order is a crime, what is the point of an extradition order?

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
15. Two parts to it
Tue Mar 21, 2023, 11:24 AM
Mar 2023

1). It would be dereliction of duty. His role is pretty unambiguous. He is required to sign the extradition order.

2). It would be obstruction of justice. That would be the potential criminal charge. If Trump is indicted and the sticking point is DeSantis and DeSantis goes "nope," he's obstructing justice.

Chainfire

(17,536 posts)
8. I do not believe that Trump will resist arrest. Too much to lose, too little to gain.
Mon Mar 20, 2023, 02:52 PM
Mar 2023

He will go where his lawyers tell him to go, and do what they tell him to do. Because delay is his superpower, he will not go to trial before the next election, and he is counting on winning the election to avoid justice. His options are few.

However, the thought of Trump being dragged, kicking and screaming, out of a hidey-hole, in the basement of Mar-a-loco, just like Saddam, brings a smile to my face.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
16. The ARREST...in his mindset...packs a MIGHTY payload in terms of fundraising
Tue Mar 21, 2023, 11:27 AM
Mar 2023

He's carefully and consistently painted himself as a martyr, and leaned into the MAGAts' paranoia by saying "They're really not after me...THEY'RE AFTER YOU," so if and when he is indicted...and arrested...Trump will blow the "You're NEXT" dog whistle.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
9. No way DeSantis extradites Trump
Mon Mar 20, 2023, 02:58 PM
Mar 2023

It would permanently cement him as part of the “deep state” and ruin any chance he has of capturing the maga base. Not that he isnt rooting for the courts to destroy Trump harder than anyone but no way he participates.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. Fun idea, but governors don't have authority over federal extraditions.
Mon Mar 20, 2023, 03:03 PM
Mar 2023

There's no corner for this one to be backed into; he'll make whatever statement benefits himself the most.
And tRump's attorneys have already said tRump will cooperate and present himself to NYC, and if so there will be no need for federal marshals to come get him.

I think he will. This is the least dangerous to him, with the lowest penalties, of all the current investigations, and some believe holds the highest risk of criminal prosecution failing to achieve a guilty verdict.

Dorian Gray

(13,493 posts)
12. I think this is sooooo stupid
Mon Mar 20, 2023, 03:20 PM
Mar 2023

Just finish trump. Be done with him. Extradite him. DONEZO. People will calm down by the fall. And if he's indicted in GA and Federally, people will forget all about the NY charges.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
18. Very clever move by New York
Tue Mar 21, 2023, 12:19 PM
Mar 2023

This prosecutor could effectively derail two candidates.

Very clever.

I like it.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
19. Mutual Assured Destruction.
Tue Mar 21, 2023, 12:23 PM
Mar 2023

And I think DeSantis isn't prepared for the shockwaves that will follow the indictment of the last Republican President.

To all non-Republicans, moderates, independents, etc., the Republican Party is going to have a stink or a taint on it from Trump that will be damn near impossible to remove. And any nominee emerging from that morass is going to be forced to deal with that stink, whether it's DeSantis or somebody else.

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