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Pototan

(1,122 posts)
Tue Mar 21, 2023, 07:54 AM Mar 2023

To those who say "They're Picking On Trump"

We all have family, friends or acquaintances who say if it was a Democrat, there would be no case for hush money payments. The case is only being pursued, because "they're" out to get Trump.

I'm going to cite two cases that refute that bullshit comment. Now, I will admit that both cases are not exactly alike but have many similarities.

First, John Edwards. The former NC Democratic Senator was running for President after losing as John Kerry's running mate in 2004. That case was pursued, and John Edwards was indicted. He had urged a political donator and close friend to pay a woman he was having an affair with. He said it was to protect his marriage. Edwards was brought to trial and was acquitted, but the story ended his political career. John Edwards was certainly a high-profile Democratic politician.

The second one is Bill Clinton. I know, Monica was a victim and certainly should not be put into the same category as a porn actress, but the point I'm making is that it was pursued. Clinton was a sitting President and needed to answer questions, under oath, in a deposition. His own Justice Department pursued him, and a special prosecutor investigated and prosecuted him into impeachment. President Clinton and Monica were publicly humiliated, and the former President was disbarred.

My point? Don't tell me Trump is being picked on. It's just that small potatoes for Trump were major scandals for these two Democrats. You see, in both cases, these were the worst scandals of their lives. In Trump's case, rape, treason, insurrection, tax evasion, obstruction, fraud, perjury, attempting to overthrow the government, and on and on, makes paying a porn actress hush money with corporate funds 10 days before a Presidential Election may look trivial. But in reality, it's not trivial.

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To those who say "They're Picking On Trump" (Original Post) Pototan Mar 2023 OP
But her emails? Bengahzi? Hunter Biden's laptop? ProudMNDemocrat Mar 2023 #1
" We all have family, friends or acquaintances who say..." brooklynite Mar 2023 #2
Lucky you Pototan Mar 2023 #4
Hunter Biden and laptop... imanamerican63 Mar 2023 #3
This crime has been charged and prosecuted in New York on numerous occasions LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2023 #5
Thanks for that info Pototan Mar 2023 #6
Survey of Past New York Felony Prosecutions for Falsifying Business Records LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2023 #7
Thanks Pototan Mar 2023 #9
Thanks Pototan Mar 2023 #8
this post was meant for Pototan Mar 2023 #10

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,785 posts)
1. But her emails? Bengahzi? Hunter Biden's laptop?
Tue Mar 21, 2023, 08:10 AM
Mar 2023

Projection my friends! Anything to deflect from the crimes these assholes are covering up that have more serious implications for the country.

Who knew Psychiatry could be so fun?

Pototan

(1,122 posts)
4. Lucky you
Tue Mar 21, 2023, 09:34 AM
Mar 2023

I moved to another country to avoid them.

Problem is, I have to go back now and then.

I'm a 70-year-old heterosexual white male. Guess what demographic my contemporaries are in. The demo that votes 70% Trump.

imanamerican63

(13,790 posts)
3. Hunter Biden and laptop...
Tue Mar 21, 2023, 08:51 AM
Mar 2023

Obama’s secret affair(which a total fabrication by the GOBers), Hillary and her emails? These are just a few examples of the unfair treatment that Trump has received? We know what where the truth lies and other lies are hiding in the shadows of evidence that has already emerged from Trump’s own mouth!

Pototan

(1,122 posts)
6. Thanks for that info
Tue Mar 21, 2023, 01:16 PM
Mar 2023

but the point I was making is that people in the same political circumstances as Trump have also been pursued for similar types of scandals.

John Edwards' case is the most similar. Trump is not being singled out and being a politician, or even a President or Presidential candidate, doesn't grant you immunity.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,231 posts)
7. Survey of Past New York Felony Prosecutions for Falsifying Business Records
Tue Mar 21, 2023, 01:51 PM
Mar 2023

The crime that TFG may be charged with has been used a great deal in New York. TFG is not being picked on.



https://www.justsecurity.org/85605/survey-of-past-new-york-felony-prosecutions-for-falsifying-business-records/

A core crime that the Manhattan District Attorney will likely include in an indictment of former President Donald Trump is “falsifying business records in the first degree,” a felony under New York State law (N.Y. Penal Code § 175.10). Prosecutors and indeed all of us are compelled by the rule of law to consider how such a charge compares to past prosecutions. Are like cases being treated alike?

Here it appears they are. Prosecution of falsifying business records in the first degree is commonplace and has been used by New York district attorneys’ offices to hold to account a breadth of criminal behavior from the more petty and simple to the more serious and highly organized. We reach this conclusion after surveying the past decade and a half of criminal cases across all the New York district attorneys’ offices.



.....An individual is “guilty of falsifying business records in the second degree when, with intent to defraud, he:

makes or causes a false entry in the business records of an enterprise; or
alters, erases, obliterates, deletes, removes or destroys a true entry in the business records of an enterprise; or
omits to make a true entry in the business records of an enterprise in violation of a duty to do so which he knows to be imposed upon him by law or by the nature of his position; or
prevents the making of a true entry or causes the omission thereof in the business records of an enterprise.” N.Y. Penal Code § 175.05

An individual “is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree when he commits the crime of falsifying business records in the second degree, and when his intent to defraud includes an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof.” N.Y. Penal Code § 175.10.

TFG is not being picked on
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