As doctors flee state, Idaho bill expands exceptions for abortion. Health isn't one of them

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As doctors flee state, Idaho bill expands exceptions for abortion. Health isn't one of them

In an effort to address complaints about an exodus of Idaho physicians, who fear felony charges for providing pregnancy care, an Idaho bill would add exceptions to the state’s abortion ban. But pregnancies that cause health risks isn’t one of them.

House Bill 374, which lawmakers cleared Thursday, would clarify that medical treatment for miscarriages and ectopic pregnancies are allowable under the state’s abortion ban. An ectopic pregnancy is when a fertilized egg grows outside of the uterus, making the pregnancy non-viable.

The bill also would allow exceptions to felony “criminal abortion” when an abortion saves the life of the mother or if the pregnancy was the result of incest or rape. The exception applies only if the incest or rape was reported to police. Currently, the law grants affirmative defenses — opportunities to present evidence in court that negates charges — in those instances.

Additionally, exceptions for rape and incest would be narrowed to apply only in the first trimester of pregnancy.

Medical, anti-abortion groups negotiate language

The Idaho Medical Association in recent months negotiated with lawmakers and Idaho Chooses Life, an anti-abortion group that authored the abortion ban, to make exceptions clearer.

The physician group “reluctantly” supported House Bill 374, although it hoped for an exception for the health of the mother, said Ken McClure, a lobbyist representing the nonprofit trade group.

“There is more good that we would like to see done,” McClure told the House State Affairs Committee. “And it’s, in our view, a disappointment that this bill does not do that.”

Republicans on the committee rejected additional language clarifying that abortions as treatment for “life-threatening conditions” are exempt. Rep. Julianne Young, R-Blackfoot, told the committee Wednesday that the language was too broad.

“The list was endless when we began considering the decisions that would fall under that language,” she said.

[Irish_Dem]

1. Idaho will become a medical desert for women.

Babies will be delivered by paramedics or ER docs.

Or women will hire midwives who will probably be chased out the state too.

[2naSalit]

5. Once again.

This is an attempt to cleanse the state of nonmormons by making their lives suck in that state. They see it is quite effective so they will continue to restrict 20th century norms for some patriarchal control system over every last thing you do, including HOW and WHEN you have sex like they do in their church. Seriously, they want the blasphemers and infidels out of their zion so they can enforce their own sharia laws.

Never forget that the state of Idaho is owned and operated by the church.

[Irish_Dem]

9. Other states will go full fascist too.

This is just the beginning.

[2naSalit]

12. I know...

I'm watching the fascist takeover oozing over the divide and overwhelming Montana.

[Irish_Dem]

13. State by state, they will fall.

[2naSalit]

14. Unless we stop them.

[Irish_Dem]

15. Yes of course. Because they won't stop until we stop them.

But it remains to be seen if Americans can display citizenship and a desire to save democracy.

[Bettie]

17. Are there enough nutjob fascists

to take all that many states?

I'd like to think that there are more rational, decent humans overall than there are these mean-spirited, ugly ones.

[Irish_Dem]

19. We will be finding out the answer to your question in the next decade.

I hope your belief is accurate.

But time will tell.

There appear to be a sizable number of Americans who are quite willing to vote out democracy.

[CTyankee]

10. Then Idaho will become an intellect desert for the state. The brains and talent that any state needs

to grow their economies will leave, it's as simple as that. States need doctors and medical support professionals, they need schools to educate their electorate so they can get jobs and fill their workforce to compete in the economy of the future.

These are the realities. Basically, THEY are losers. "Brain drain" does them no good at all.

[Irish_Dem]

11. That's the goal. Destroy the professional class.

Teachers, college professors, PhDs, medical personnel, librarians, etc.

The plan is to damage the US in brutal ways.
A poor, ignorant, frightened population is a docile and early manipulated population.

The impact will last for generations and de difficult to turn around.

Just like the GOP wants to sell as many guns as possible.
It will be very hard to get them back and out of circulation.

Who benefits and how?

[samnsara]

18. we will welcome them with open arms in wash state and montana...

...they wont be left out...

[Irish_Dem]

21. The beginning of American political refugee migration.

[Lovie777]

2. This not the only state......................

threatening doctors, nurses, medical officials.........

Threatening librarians, teachers, and religious officials who do not comply with RWers insane ideology.

[2naSalit]

6. Yes, however...

They are leagues ahead in the game since the church owns the state and they are just re-establishing their sharia laws that were in place before civil rights became a national thing.

[lindysalsagal]

3. Ultimately the docs must force th issue by leaving until sensibility and their authority is restored

Because this should have been their purview all along.

[2naSalit]

7. That's interesting...

...until sensibility and their authority is restored

They never had these in the first place. In the NW states, in my experience, the only state that is a worse joke than Montana when it comes to medical care is Idaho and that's pretty bad.

[barbtries]

4. "The list was endless when we began considering the decisions that would fall under that language,"

well no shit. these are human beings you're talking about, you murderous so-called "pro-lifer"

jeez this just pisses me off so much. it's not your business! it's not your body!

[roamer65]

8. Spokane is about to become a popular "tourist" destination for women from Idaho.

If it already hasn’t.

[MayReasonRule]

16. "The list was endless when we began considering the decisions that would fall under that language."

"The list was endless", i.e. an innumberable number of factors may threaten the life of the mother, about which they absolutely do not care.

The only things they're interested in are intimidating, incarcerating and exterminating any one or any thing that dare oppose or impede their Fascist Nat-C depravity.

They'd rather the women die, it's a feature and benefit of the law when you're a murdering fascist turd.

[ananda]

20. Well, it's a start, but not nearly enough!

The exodus is happening in Texas too.