Leslie Stahl getting absolutely chewed out everywhere for her interview

[Marius25]

Contrary to the poster here who keeps praising her, I'm seeing absolutely overwhelming responses that Leslie Stahl did a terrible job and completely normalized Greene. The interview was described as nothing but soft-balls, and Greene even delegitimized fact checking, and Stahl had no comeback. Green just described how she's a normal person who pays taxes and has never committed a crime, and she got into politics to combat what she saw as a corrupt system.

It was an absolute disaster for 60 minutes, Leslie Stahl, and America, and I 100% guarantee it made Greene seem less crazy to people.

[roamer65]

1. I notice Traitor Greene said she was around RW nutbag radio constantly as her dad was addicted to it

She is now the poster child to me for why that fucking poison should have been banned from the airwaves 40 years ago.

[Tumbulu]

27. Absolutely!!!!!!!!

[Delarage]

43. Somehow it got my sister....

after she moved to Trumpville, FL (Panama City Beach). She used to be a rabid environmentalist, now she has a sticker that says "Global Warming is Caused by the Sun" on her car, a picture of Ronnie Raygun on her fridge, and non-stop Faux News. I can't really visit her that much....

[Tumbulu]

80. The "success" of the propaganda

has created the civil war we are living in.

I too have family members who got swept in. But also I know and work with incredible people also captured by the rhetoric.

Until the source of the propaganda is addressed, we stand not a chance.

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

56. Everyone, please read my sig line below.

Hate radio, and Fox News, are largely responsible for the growth of Nazi and pre-Nazi fascism in the US.

[Tumbulu]

82. Yes, it has.

And no real effort from the left to do anything about it because there is no recognition of the problem. They think it started with Fox News.

Instead of recognizing that the market for fox was created by the am radio propaganda coordinated by the Republican Party starting in the ‘80’s. A really inexpensive way for the minority to take over the majority. By locking the Senate into their point of view hook line and sinker due to the demographics of the rural regions. And having these people vote. And framing every discussion from their point of view. However deranged.

[BComplex]

87. THAT, my friend, is called GROOMING!!

And the republicans project that on everyone else, BECAUSE they are guilty of it.

[RockRaven]

2. Yeah, majority opinion seems to be not good...

Enthusiastic/persistent individuals can't shift that with their volume alone.

[Cha]

3. And then there's this.. you may have seen it..

Link to tweet

Wth Leslie.

[Celerity]

7. lol, beat me to it, but hey, GMTA (I did add a couple of other tweets btw)

[Scrivener7]

49. That was where I thought I'd be sick. It was disgraceful.

[Celerity]

4. In voiceover, Stahl went on to call Greene 'smart and fearless'

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

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[Cha]

8. TY for Bradley Whitford.. I

really like him anyway. Retweeted..

mtg "isn't afraid to share her, Dangerous to our Democracy, opinions". Because she's a Sociopathic Pathological Galit Liar.

That's good her tweet was on the screen while she was lying and denying it.

[agingdem]

36. "you can put lipstick a pig but it's still a pig"...

the 60 Minutes format is regressive, stale..Lesley Stahl, in a desperate attempt to stay relevant, she "hosted" antisemitic/racist Marjorie Taylor Greene, a fount of white christian nationalist hate...and, yet, despite Stahl's marshmallow questions, Greene blew herself up...she came across as a cheap know-nothing blathering buffoon, spouting off-the-wall conspiracies, spewing invectives, and denying her much documented caustic behavior, comments, and tweets..Shame on Lesley Stahl!.. in her zeal to get the "big get" she sacrificed her reputation and cemented her legacy...

[Cha]

81. Totally agree... & Well said.. TY! nt

[Hermit-The-Prog]

5. By providing such a platform for MT, CBS showed it favors insurrectionists.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

6. The gaslighting never stops.

[Celerity]

13. So you're calling a tonne of DU + a myriad number of Dem-friendly &/or antifash pundits gaslighters?

Good to know.

Tom Nichols
@RadioFreeTom

Marjorie Taylor Greene praises Lesley Stahl of "60 Minutes" amid backlash

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[Maraya1969]

22. I think I have a different opinion. At least MTG has been exposed.

On a much larger scale, then she had been before the 60 minutes interview. And that second clip where Leslie still pointed out that MTG wants a “Christian nation“ and some other of her lunatic ideas is good because most people probably don’t even know who she is or what she really stands for. I just think bringing things to the light of day is a good thing.

[betsuni]

28. +1

[PortTack]

33. Absolutely!

[muriel_volestrangler]

37. It's a truly crappy interview - milquetoast, and half of it's like a campaign ad

It's a complete abdication of journalistic responsibility.

If that's what a major TV current affairs program does as an interview, the USA is deep in the shit.

[inthewind21]

76. You're

JUST NOW noticing this? It's not like it's a new thing.

[muriel_volestrangler]

83. I'm British, so I don't regularly watch American interviews

though I know they are often criticised for being bland. I don't think I've seen Stahl before. I'm commenting because it surprised me that several DUers were trying to defend the interview,

[inthewind21]

90. So

You don't regularly watch American interviews because you are British but you're here to tell Americans what to think of American interviews. Got it!

[inthewind21]

91. And why

would that surprise you. If you want to see a group "outrage" in lockstep, well, that "other" cable network might be a better fit.

[muriel_volestrangler]

94. It surprises me because I think DUers generally see things fairly clearly

such as what is a good or bad interview. It's surprising to see people here think that was a decent interview (the general Democratic and media conclusion has been "yeah, Stahl screwed up", and it's not like DUers to have lower standards about these things; it's even more surprising to find a few so vehemently defending a failure, as if they have something personally invested in it (perhaps they're relations or friends of Stahl?))

To answer your other reply, yeah, I'm here to point out (as many American DUers do) that American political interviews are often weak stuff, and this was a particularly bad example of that. Other countries are better served by their TV interviews.

[progressoid]

75. People who watch 60 minutes already know about her.

As for exposure, this got the 2nd lowest ratings of any 60 minutes segment this season. So it seems like 60 minutes viewers weren't interested.

[FlyingPiggy]

9. I didn't realize Leslie Stahl was so desperate for attention

Why in god’s name would she stoop so low? She deserves ALL the pushback. Guess she doesn’t care about her professional reputation.

[grantcart]

10. Reminds me of Falon tussling Trump's hair

The worst thing about the poster you mentioned is that I was going to skip but now I will be up for hours.

My wife, who is Thai, doesn't really understand how we get so engaged (although she has come to despise Trump like we do) and observes me watching these thugs and I clench my fists and start shaking in anger

She calmly lets me go for a few minutes and then says in Thai "Oh honey your Parkinson's is acting up (I don't have Parkinson's)

Tonight my Parkinson's is back

[Just A Box Of Rain]

11. I'm sorry your Parkinson's is back.

I wish that you shared my delight in Lesley Stahl's take-down of MTG.

The last thing I want is to see people suffer.

I hope you feel better soon.

[grantcart]

14. It's not actually Parkinson's

It's my wife's humorous take on how animated I get watching Trump and his synchophants that I start shaking and she refers to it as Parkinson's when it is simply a rational response to an increasingly irrational right wing movement.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

15. Well that's good to know.

I have a dear friend who I love who just had to give up the home and garden that she's tended next door for 50 years due to Parkinson's.

She kept falling. I'd go over and help her get back to bed in the middle of the night. The last time she fell she fractured her hip.

So she and her husband have moved into assisted living.

Fine liberals and big donors to the Party.

[Cha]

12. I thought of that time when Jimmy Fallon

tussled trump hair during all this, too.

And, that's why I don't watch.. blood pressure.. whatever.. I get too emotional.

[Kaleva]

16. Where is "everywhere"?

With such a claim, I'd expect a dozen or more links to reputable sources backing up the claim of "everywhere".

Instead, we get none.

[muriel_volestrangler]

40. Here:

Rolling Stone: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/marjorie-taylor-greene-60-minutes-calls-democrats-pedophiles-1234708093/
Daily Beast: https://www.thedailybeast.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-calls-democrats-pedophiles-and-does-crossfit-in-softball-60-minutes-interview

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

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CNN: https://edition.cnn.com/2023/04/03/opinions/60-minutes-marjorie-taylor-greene-interview-obeidallah/index.html

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[Kaleva]

55. Tweets. What about articles?

Tweets are a few sentences at most. Articles go much further into depth.

[muriel_volestrangler]

60. And articles take time to be written.

If you think that the world needs to leap into gear, drop everything else, and spend their Sunday evening just to get an article count up by Monday morning to your demanded level to pile on what was obviously a crap interview, then maybe think about what their work and home life it likely to be like.

[inthewind21]

77. LOL

Yet you expect the media to be what YOU want it to be. Ironic. Do carry on with Twitter as a news source. It's OH so reliable.

[muriel_volestrangler]

84. It shows the reaction of people in politics and the media

It's them, so yes, it's reliable. Unless you're claiming those accounts are fake?

I expect interviewers to confront pieces of shit like Greene. That's not much to expect. I don't think it's ironic to expect a planned interview to actually hold a dangerous far right bastard to account. Are you saying you were happy with the interview, or that CBS shouldn't be questioned?

[Kaleva]

89. Then maybe we ought to wait till there's more information

People today want instant gratification.

It's not going to hurt anyone to wait and read all that comes out over the next few days.

[edisdead]

66. For better or worse, twitter is media.

Been that way for a decade now. You may not consider it journalism or media but thats where the world is. Fir better or worse.

[calimary]

17. Why do they even give Empty Green a platform?

Because she's the "Shiny Object Du Jour"?

Shame on Leslie Stahl. With her stature by now, she could interview ANYBODY ON EARTH. Why does she have to try to legitimize one of the trashiest women on earth? What was she thinking? Probably - the "marquee value"... If I were running CBS News, I'd want to deny Empty-G the attention. We used to have a saying when I was in school. "Don't feed the ego." VERY disappointing. There should be a memo issued. Margie-baby should be put on ignore and left there.

[markodochartaigh]

18. Leslie Stahl is the

Neville Chamberlain of 60 Minutes.

[jaxexpat]

20. Yeah, looks like we have a piece-of-work in our time for sure.

Or for at least 60 Minutes of Sunday prime time.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

26. More like the modern-day Edward R Murrow.

Perhaps Murrow would be accused of "platforming" Joe McCarthy in the age of the internet?

Kudos to 60 Minutes for staying true to progressive-liberal values.

[MrsCoffee]

65. Ok, now I can never take anything else you ever say seriously.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

67. Why? Both took on powerful extremists who were unfortunately gaining political power

By shining the light on their misdeeds and irresponsibly reckless false claims.

That's how to take down extremist Republican bullies.

[MrsCoffee]

69. Murrow destroyed McCarthy.

Stahl gave mtg a pass on everything. She covered a fraction of mtg's extremisms and dissected none of them.

If you are a maga watching this show, you are high fiving mtg and sending money.

If you are not a maga watching this show you are wondering why there is no such thing as investigative journalism anymore. Murrow didn't hedge and gave the clear and concise message that McCarthyism would not be tolerated.

Stahl fumbled badly.

She will be taken to task for it. Rightly so.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

71. Yes, Murrow destroyed McCarthy.

Stahl also destroyed Greene. Greene wasn't given a pass on anything. It may only be the beginning of the end for Greene, just as it took years to eventually take down McCarty. But this is progress.

Stahl counted every single lie that Green told. Watch the tape.

MAGAts may high-five when their populist extremist leaders brazenly lie, but I don't think that characterizes the response of the core 60 Minutes audience. Rather the opposite. Greene looked bad. Very bad.

[moniss]

19. Maybe Leslie

is warming up for a move to Faux. Nothing would surprise me. Andrea Mitchell is just as bad. I would have no doubt that Rupert is planning a way to try to bring "more legitimacy" to the brand as he tries to make his way through the Dominion case and others to come. Or she might be trying to use some leverage for her next contract with CBS. But actually that whole show became a piece of crap a long time ago.

The entire spectrum of that genre of show has become crap. "Frontline" will still occasionally have a decent episode. The debacle in East Palestine is a good one to use as an example. The deteriorating condition of the railroad infrastructure/operational safety and operational decisions greatly increasing the risk of accidents has been known widely in the transportation industry for decades. All kinds of derailments etc. all over the country for a long time now. All while the companies pushed for longer and faster trains and lower staffing. So where were the stories on the big 3 networks about the situation? The list of situations/major problems about to happen that they could have and should have been doing stories on to alert people and inform them is very long. It's almost as though they don't want us to have information about bad situations well ahead of time so we as people could react and try to force action on solutions. It's as though they would rather have the dramatic footage of disaster and victims along with a reporter standing there telling us how awful it is. The old "if it bleeds it leads" mantra turned on its' head and the new one is "don't prevent the bleeding because we need the leading".

[YoshidaYui]

21. video

[andym]

23. Would have been better to have Mike Wallace do the interview, but alas he is permanently unavailable

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He had a way of cutting someone like Greene down to size.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

29. I met Mike Wallace in 1988.

I was very disappointed to learn (from him) that he was supporting GHW Bush.

[True Blue American]

70. The Dan Rather story

Was about GW. They did not want it so they found a reason to fire Dan!

[True Blue American]

24. I quit watching 60 Minutes

When they fired Dan Rather over a simple staff mistake. Now they have reached this low.

Harry and Mike would be so disgusted. Imagine what Andy Rooney would say.

https://alliancetimes.com/remembering-andy-rooney/

[Greybnk48]

57. I quit watching when I found out they altered a story to appease Big Tobacco

and save their own asses from a law suit. All of America would have backed them, but they told Mike Wallace to lie.

His (Wallace's) producer quit over it, that's how bad the cover-up was for the tobacco industry poisoning millions to create a super-addiction with cigarettes.

It's all in the movie, The Insider, with Russell Crowe. I've never trusted 60 minutes since I saw them exposed in this movie.

[ecstatic]

25. I agree. I wish everyone could understand that we're all on the same team

We're not enemies who owe each other apologies for disagreeing with their point of view. We can agree to disagree in some cases and that's fine.

[vanlassie]

30. We are all on the same team?

Who is the “we” you speak of?

[Aussie105]

34. Don't know what team you are on, but . . .

I'm on the team that wants intelligent and responsible actions and word from politicians.

No carnival barkers (Trump) or howler monkeys (MTG, Boebert) belong in sensible, responsible politics.

Now which team are you on?

[ecstatic]

51. Lol. Seriously? Well you're right, I should have been more specific

"We" on DU are all on the same team, or at least I hope so. The rules are pretty narrow here so there's really not a lot of room for people who don't support Democrats.

[UCmeNdc]

31. What happened to asking the hard hitting questions? 60 min has gone downhill

[peggysue2]

46. That's exactly what I thought reading the responses

It's not just Stahl who is diminished in this instance. It's 60 Minutes and the show's legacy of hard-hitting, aggressive interviews.

I deliberately did not watch; I know who and what Majorie Taylor Greene is--another Trump-hugging, flying monkey, a women whose political ambition has erased her sense of decency. Greene's views are unAmerican and anti-democratic. She joined the fascist movement like so many of the opportunistic House members--it was their way to power and "celebrity" status.

I decided not to feed the beast. Too bad Stahl, 60 minutes and CBS didn't do likewise.

[JanLip]

54. Peggysue2

I ditto everything you posted. I’ve quit watching regular TV. People like MTG are opportunists. I prefer not to give them any attention. I haven’t watched “60 Minutes” in years. Don’t intend to watch in the future. I have a home here at DU with like minded folks. There are a lot of very smart people here who I appreciate.

Jan

[peggysue2]

61. Agree, Jan

Giving these opportunists oxygen is exactly what they want and crave. If the media refuses to push back, then it's left to us to stay informed, voice our discontent publicly and then follow it up at the ballot box.

Strange, too. I use to be a 60 Minutes' devotee. Haven't watched the show in years.

[Aussie105]

32. I'm disappointed that . . .

The JSLTSFF (Jewish space lasers that started forest fires) wasn't brought up, and used to bash MTG over the head as someone who makes up stuff just to stir trouble, all the way throughout the interview.

60 minutes isn't worth 60 seconds of anyone's time.

[Phoenix61]

35. "Brash"!!!! WTAF!!! She not brash she's a self-acknowledged

conspiracy theorist. The founding fathers quoted the Bible? Could you provide a source for that, Majorie? could Leslie have let that go? She gave her a complete pass on Parkland!
I remember really enjoying 60 minutes. Seems it’s racing to the bottom.

[Walleye]

39. I caught that. The founding fathers probably quoted a lot of literature

They were intellectual and did a lot of reading in like Marge. They probably quoted Shakespeare like every other English-speaking culture, does that mean they were in favor of monarchy? It’s in the first amendment for crying out loud. No religion

[Phoenix61]

45. The Bible was a book people were more likely to own.

Quotes are more meaningful when you know the source so of course they quoted it. They also, as you noted, quoted lots of other writers. They are doing the same thing with her they did with Trump, giving her a hard pass. I don’t understand it.

[Walleye]

47. I don't either, I thought the whole thing was infuriating as well as damaging

[Tetrachloride]

38. if 60 Minutes won't play hardball against MTG, they won't do it

against “anyone “. (exaggeration possibly)

Why should we trust 60 Minutes? Seriously.

[Scrivener7]

50. No. I don't think that's an exaggeration. Really, you can go as low as empty green, but not lower.

I would have been ecstatic if that was a real interview that made her account for her horrible statements and positions. But it boiled down to a campaign ad.

[Earth-shine]

74. Why should we watch 60 Mins at all?

They don't want our trust per se, just our eyeballs.

[demmiblue]

41. What poster?

StarffieBox?

[Scrivener7]

52. Never thought of that.

You think?

[demmiblue]

92. ...

[Scrivener7]

93. I laughed so hard at this!!!

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

58. Ha!

[hatrack]

42. "Despite his culinary quirks, we found Mr. Dahmer an engaging, honest individual."

[dalton99a]

44. "A fearless eater with novel tastes"

[peggysue2]

48. LOL!!

Good one! Both references to Jeffrey Dahmer are on the mark. MTG and her crew of flying monkeys are smacking their lips and devouring our Republic at the same time.

From the sounds of it (I did not watch the show), 60 minutes hit a low point last night by normalizing the abnormal.

Shame on them!

[Scrivener7]

53. "Brash, cheeky recipes that push the boundaries." Oh, yikes. I said "cheeky."

[hatrack]

72. "And after sitting down to dinner with him, all I could say was 'Wow!'"

.

[tenderfoot]

59. Yep

Link to tweet

[Arazi]

62. I'm honestly a bit shocked at anyone thinking this was a "win" for democracy

The descent into authoritarianism these past 6 years has been depressing.

Even more depressing is watching any Dem believing giving a national platform to a hateful, racist demagogue is a “win”.

We have many examples, including Trump, that show “normalizing” these people is a huge mistake.

[tenderfoot]

64. Because that's what our media has been trying to do the past 6+ years...

Normalize fascism.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

68. I know that one poster who thinks that Stahl did the nation a great service is a lifelong Democrat

from a Democratic family, and has voted for Democrats and only Democrats his entire voting life.

I'd be careful of making such assertions.

Exposing extremists is a noble endeavor.

[inthewind21]

78. I'm a bit shocked

You think the descent just started 6 years ago.

[Earth-shine]

73. Stahl seems to be a case of weak tea.

I've not been watching through the years.

Was there a time when she was better than this ...

[RANDYWILDMAN]

79. FFS is Louie Gohmert next

Why are we trying to rationalize the crazy and make them appear sane, when everything they do tells you they crazy.



CBS is corporate monster and must need some need more good damn tax breaks.....can't see another reason to do this

[allegorical oracle]

85. The devil with MTG's acting job last evening. I'm still stuck at "her net worth is $11M." nt

[LetMyPeopleVote]

86. This makes me smile

Link to tweet

[LetMyPeopleVote]

88. Karma

Link to tweet

?s=20

[barbaraann]

95. There isn't anything about this sickening interview on Stahl's wikipedia page yet.

I hope someone with credentials posts something soon and I hope it stays there for eternity.

[Cha]

96. As I posted last night..

something about.. There goes your Legacy, Leslie Stahl.. and shame on you.

Now people who report news and really good writers are saying that and much more.

I wasn't buying any of that.. ".. Stahl did a good job"..

I and a whole lot of other people have Higher Standards for what a good job is.by a jounalist.