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Eugene

(61,945 posts)
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 09:02 PM Apr 2023

Florida's Ron DeSantis threatens Disney with tolls and taxes

Related DU thread: Ron DeSantis after messing up with Disney the first time around, vows to get it right this time

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Source: BBC

Florida's Ron DeSantis threatens Disney with tolls and taxes

7 April 2023

By Madeline Halpert
BBC News, New York

Florida's Governor Ron DeSantis has escalated his feud with Disney, threatening to impose taxes on its hotels and roads that lead to the theme park.

He also promised to strip the company of its control over development in a district that oversees its property.

"We are going to win on every single issue involving Disney," he announced at a speech in Michigan.

The threat is the latest in the state's ongoing dispute with the company.

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Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65216192

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Florida's Ron DeSantis threatens Disney with tolls and taxes (Original Post) Eugene Apr 2023 OP
Be interesting to know what Disney plans to do. Srkdqltr Apr 2023 #1
So, if he forces Farmer-Rick Apr 2023 #2
It seems to me that other corporations watching what is going on in Florida might want ratchiweenie Apr 2023 #17
he is so pathetic Skittles Apr 2023 #3
Disney should move north. pwb Apr 2023 #4
Someone suggested the multigraincracker Apr 2023 #7
People come to FL for a reason. former9thward Apr 2023 #8
So you say? pwb Apr 2023 #12
I don't say. former9thward Apr 2023 #14
Yawn pwb Apr 2023 #18
That can change--and probably will. ExWhoDoesntCare Apr 2023 #24
I live in AZ former9thward Apr 2023 #28
They can't ExWhoDoesntCare Apr 2023 #23
This is getting incredible. This guy DeSantis is a real wacko. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2023 #5
Here's the best part. Looks like Ron got burnt bad and made to look incompetent: mobeau69 Apr 2023 #6
If that sentence is in the contract then the contract is void. former9thward Apr 2023 #9
Well, they have the House of Windsor thingy to fall back on. mobeau69 Apr 2023 #11
Midas Touch will cover it. pwb Apr 2023 #13
Lol no it doesn't obamanut2012 Apr 2023 #20
Please stay away from property law. former9thward Apr 2023 #21
You first ExWhoDoesntCare Apr 2023 #25
Tolls will only cost locals and tourists more money. Taxes cannot be passed to punish one company ZonkerHarris Apr 2023 #10
The GOP doesn't care about legality. CentralMass Apr 2023 #15
The taxes are imposed on any property within the district. former9thward Apr 2023 #22
A state tax authority can't impose a tax onto a district ExWhoDoesntCare Apr 2023 #27
what a small, pathetic man... bahboo Apr 2023 #16
Title should be Conjuay Apr 2023 #19
Which Accomplishes Nothing ProfessorGAC Apr 2023 #26

Farmer-Rick

(10,207 posts)
2. So, if he forces
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 09:05 PM
Apr 2023

Disney to shut down for a year, how is that going to be on the economy of Florida? Graft and corruption is not enough to keep Florida afloat.

ratchiweenie

(7,754 posts)
17. It seems to me that other corporations watching what is going on in Florida might want
Sun Apr 9, 2023, 06:25 AM
Apr 2023

to consider moving or backing a candidate who does not intend to run the state like a Christian Fellowship where they either agree with the party's "morals" or they will pay.

It should be obvious to all sharp business people that this current bunch of GQP are only about control. Not just women's bodies but how you run your business, where you pee, what you wear, how long your hair should be. Florida is very quickly turning Fascist.

Skittles

(153,193 posts)
3. he is so pathetic
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 09:08 PM
Apr 2023

DeFascist is a fucking BULLY who cannot stand to be bested -he doesn't care who gets hurt while he seeks revenge

pwb

(11,287 posts)
4. Disney should move north.
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 09:17 PM
Apr 2023

Where it is not too hot and they wouldn't have to build a mountain. We have nice terrain for exciting rides. Fuck Ron.

multigraincracker

(32,715 posts)
7. Someone suggested the
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 09:24 PM
Apr 2023

Bahamas.
Or they just might turn that Dark Money that publicans love against him. I’m sure Disney has more money than all his party has and money=speech. Be great to see the tables turn.

former9thward

(32,077 posts)
14. I don't say.
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 10:40 PM
Apr 2023

The numbers do. Disney World and its satellites are packed. People are moving to Florida, Texas, Arizona and other warm states from the north. The Census data says that. Is it made up?

pwb

(11,287 posts)
18. Yawn
Sun Apr 9, 2023, 06:29 AM
Apr 2023

Climate change is ending all that. You think no matter what pukes do down in the lesser states, people will keep coming? NO. Guns, tornados, hurricanes, flooding, yeah what's not to like. Come on up Disney?

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
24. That can change--and probably will.
Sun Apr 9, 2023, 06:05 PM
Apr 2023

AZ is running out of water.

The South has lost what little mind it had to begin with. Between gays, women and those who love them leaving there, the same people not wanting to move there from other states, and, well, women DYING there because they can't get the health care they need, their numbers could start going negative in the not-too-distant-future.

If that's not enough, climate change will have the final say, especially if we have reached the point of no return. Minnesota could be the next Florida soon enough. Maybe not in my lifetime, but soon.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
23. They can't
Sun Apr 9, 2023, 05:57 PM
Apr 2023

They've invested too much in it at this point to leave now.

Even they don't have the finances to move the park elsewhere.

Other locations aren't feasible for a bunch of different reasons, be it the need for mild weather (try operating the water rides in the winter), affordable real estate or logistical realities (Example: the very real need to provide enough food and fresh water for the number of tourists Disney would get is impossible for just about any island location).

They are not moving. They have to stay and fight it out.

mobeau69

(11,156 posts)
6. Here's the best part. Looks like Ron got burnt bad and made to look incompetent:
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 09:20 PM
Apr 2023

But last week, the new board said its powers had been stymied by a last-minute agreement that gives the entertainment giant almost total control over development in the district in perpetuity or until "21 years after the death of the last survivor of the descendants of King Charles III, king of England".

This is funnier than hell.

former9thward

(32,077 posts)
9. If that sentence is in the contract then the contract is void.
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 09:35 PM
Apr 2023

It violates the The rule against Perpetuities which is a rule of American contract law.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
25. You first
Sun Apr 9, 2023, 06:07 PM
Apr 2023

Because Disney's doesn't do incompetent lawyers, and theirs wouldn't draw up a contract that could be easily overturned.

You've never dealt with The Mouse if you think you can beat them at a contract.

ZonkerHarris

(24,254 posts)
10. Tolls will only cost locals and tourists more money. Taxes cannot be passed to punish one company
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 09:39 PM
Apr 2023

that illegal.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
27. A state tax authority can't impose a tax onto a district
Sun Apr 9, 2023, 06:19 PM
Apr 2023

That is different from what the state would charge any other district.

If you have a state law requiring a 5% hotel tax, it has to be for hotels in ALL districts in the state, not just one specific locale. Otherwise, that violates the 14th Amendment to equal treatment under the law--including tax law.

Just like a state can't charge residents in one city or county a higher sales or income tax than they charge in other cities or counties. The city or county can levy their own taxes on top of the state taxes, but the state can't charge Orlando something different from what they charge Miami or Tallahassee.

Disney's lawyers will chew up DeSantis and spit him out if he even tries that nonsense. They have the money and the meanness to fight that one all the way to the Supreme Court. They also have plenty enough money for all the traitor six to start getting on their knees and opening their mouths to service their corporate master.

ProfessorGAC

(65,168 posts)
26. Which Accomplishes Nothing
Sun Apr 9, 2023, 06:10 PM
Apr 2023

People are not going to cancel $5,000 vacation plans over $500 in taxes & tolls.
So, Disney is unaffected.
And, he gets saddled with being a republican who raised taxes.

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