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This shit did not start with the Slobfather.
I remember this big time because my youngest sister was dying in a hospital in Clearwater.
Then their pope died and those two things were all the priest wanted to talk about in the homily at my sister's funeral. After the service I told him that he disrespected our family with that crap.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terri_Schiavo_case
The Terri Schiavo case was a series of court and legislative actions in the United States from 1998 to 2005, regarding the care of Theresa Marie Schiavo (born Schindler) (/ˈʃaɪvoʊ/; December 3, 1963 March 31, 2005), a woman in an irreversible persistent vegetative state. Schiavo's husband and legal guardian argued that Schiavo would not have wanted prolonged artificial life support without the prospect of recovery, and in 1998 elected to remove her feeding tube. Schiavo's parents disputed her husband's assertions and challenged Schiavo's medical diagnosis, arguing in favor of continuing artificial nutrition and hydration.[1][2] The highly publicized and prolonged series of legal challenges presented by her parents, which ultimately involved state and federal politicians up to the level of President George W. Bush, caused a seven-year (1998 to 2005) delay before Schiavo's feeding tube was ultimately removed.
On February 25, 1990, at age 26, Schiavo went into cardiac arrest at her home in St. Petersburg, Florida. She was successfully resuscitated, but had massive brain damage due to lack of oxygen to her brain and was left comatose. After two and a half months without improvement, her diagnosis was changed to that of a persistent vegetative state. For the next two years, doctors attempted occupational therapy, speech therapy, physical therapy and other experimental therapy, hoping to return her to a state of awareness, without success. In 1998, Schiavo's husband Michael Schiavo petitioned the Sixth Circuit Court of Florida to remove her feeding tube pursuant to Florida law.[3] He was opposed by Terri's parents, Robert and Mary Schindler. The court determined that Schiavo would not have wished to continue life-prolonging measures,[4] and on April 24, 2001, her feeding tube was removed for the first time, only to be reinserted several days later. On February 25, 2005, a Pinellas County judge again ordered the removal of Terri Schiavo's feeding tube. Several appeals and federal government intervention followed, which included Bush returning to Washington, D.C., to sign legislation moving the case to the federal courts. After appeals through the federal court system that upheld the original decision to remove the feeding tube, staff at the Pinellas Park hospice facility disconnected the feeding tube on March 18, 2005, and Schiavo died on March 31, 2005.[5]
The Schiavo case involved 14 appeals and numerous legal motions, petitions, and hearings in the Florida courts; five suits in federal district court; extensive political intervention at the levels of the Florida state legislature, Governor Jeb Bush, the U.S. Congress, and President George W. Bush; and four denials of certiorari from the Supreme Court of the United States.[6] The case also spurred highly visible activism from the United States anti-abortion movement, the right-to-die movement, and disability rights groups.[7] Since Schiavo's death, both her husband and her family have written books on their sides of the case, and both have also been involved in activism over related issues.[8][9][10]
GPV
(72,381 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)and it's been eighteen years.
GPV
(72,381 posts)of ppl mentioned it to me and gave her the cold shoulder at the reception.
malaise
(269,157 posts)and let these bullies know that it doesn't work with me.
Oppaloopa
(867 posts)2 man kicked her in the back with army boots on. Being starved and dehydrated is not a painless way to go . He also remarried which was the plan after her death in a big white dress catholic church wedding.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)The Priest was dead wrong and I am glad you confronted him.
When my Husband passed suddenly 2 weeks after our Son graduated College the preachers wife handed me a pamphlet that said, God chastises those he loves! A very involved Church member, I never went back.
malaise
(269,157 posts)They are tone deaf
That must have been so painful.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)Every Sunday about how good God was to her, knowing how many sitting in that Church had lost children and loved ones.
It is still painful.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,036 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)Bangs head!
keithbvadu2
(36,906 posts)Congressman/Doctor Bill Frist diagnosed her as alert and aware by television footage.
malaise
(269,157 posts)It was all politics all the time
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True Blue American
(17,988 posts)Frist never saw her!
AllyCat
(16,222 posts)Frist left I knew we would never be free of these people using their doctor cred to influence people to believe unbelievable things.
TurboDem
(216 posts)"Jesus Christ on a trailer hitch!"
There was a man driving to the protest with a plastic jesus on a cross attached to the trailer hitch on his car.
malaise
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nuxvomica
(12,442 posts)IIRC, Republican Bill Frist, majority leader of the Senate at that time, "examined" Schiavo via video. Republicans appear incapable of respecting other people's boundaries, especially women's, as seen in the Schiavo case and all these demented abortion laws. That incapability is shared by sexual predators, which their party seems to have a lot of as well.
Kudos to you, malaise, for complaining to the priest.
Lasher
(27,637 posts)And I remember the autopsy revealed he was wrong.
sarge43
(28,945 posts)My brother was in a vegetative state for three years. I had to go into court twice to get the plug pulled for my father who was in a vegetative state.
If anyone is so inclined, have a notarized living will and DNR. Do not put anyone you care for through this. I admire her husband for standing up for her and fighting the monsters who wanted both of them to suffer to make political points.
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This is NOT what I need to read when Im going in for a hip replacement tomorrow!!!
I'm sure you'll be fine. I get my clavicle bolted together tomorrow. The Schiavo scenario was not surgery initiated.
malaise
(269,157 posts)I follow my mom who wrote her living will well before she died in New York in 1994.
sarge43
(28,945 posts)Had both hips done and damn glad I did. Do your post op therapy; that's the key to getting back to full recovery.
plimsoll
(1,670 posts)Floriduh passing a law giving the governor the power to decide on her life support.
The legal cases sanitize just how f*cked up that really was. Death threats to Michael, mobs surrounding the hospice facility, people trying to break in so they could give her a glass of water (that would actually have killed her).
I had a few years before been given the "privilege" of ending life support for my first wife. It was painful enough given that we all agreed, so I had a view into what Michael Schiavo had already had to live through. The Schiavo episode convinced me that the GOP had no actual moral compass, whatever would gin up votes would do.
I'm sorry about your sister and the experience you had. There's a quote from Roger Williams about how merging politics and religion brings the weeds of the world into the garden of the church. The priest in our parish was fantastic, but a couple years and a little bit of political chicanery can turn any marginal institution into a source of pain and suffering.
malaise
(269,157 posts)They should mind their own effin business.
Sorry about your first wife
plimsoll
(1,670 posts)You're kinder than I am, I'm pretty sure they know how difficult and heart wrenching the decisions can be. They just don't care.
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)bpj62
(999 posts)When her autopsy was preformed it was determined that her brain had suffered irreplaceable damage and that she never had any chance of recovery. Nor did she have any ability to track objects like the balloon that was cited by Bill Frist as proof that she was aware. The religious right dragged her husband through the mud because he had started dating again. It was an awful spectacle and an awful abuse of governmental power over what was and should still be a family decision.
malaise
(269,157 posts)And this Texas judge should be impeached
That is all
plimsoll
(1,670 posts)Yes he started dating again, but the dispute seems to have been over who got the money from the settlement. The religious aspects were just cudgels to get the cash.
malaise
(269,157 posts)money and power are their gawds
JT45242
(2,290 posts)This is why it is so important to have a living will and talk about this.
This sort of thing would double bankrupt most spouses (millions in legal fees and millions in health care costs).
The parents should never have had legal status in the first place. Once married, the parents are not the decision makers.
What her parents did was purely evil out of selfish motives.
Aided and abetted by self serving religious and political leaders!
malaise
(269,157 posts)my mother had a living will way back in 1994 - it is a very important document.
And you're right about her monster parents
Takket
(21,625 posts)that entire debacle was all because her parents couldn't let go. Terry's body was abused, it was a tragic event. No one would ever even consider putting a beloved pet through such barbaric conditions, but Terry's parents did that to her because of their own selfish desire to not have to say goodbye.
The entire saga disgusted me. And you can bet my paperwork makes it clear that no one should EVER be allowed to abuse me like that.