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Zorro

(15,749 posts)
Sun Apr 9, 2023, 08:19 PM Apr 2023

'Stunned' House Republicans Blast McCarthy following NYT Leak

Simmering tensions among House Republicans flared anew over the weekend, following a New York Times report that detailed how Kevin McCarthy’s (R., Calif.) bitterly contested speakership battle has undermined his confidence in colleagues.

While it took McCarthy a historic 15 ballots to secure the position through January’s chaos and infighting, the speaker reportedly remains particularly frustrated by certain Republicans — including Jodey Arrington (R., Texas) and Steve Scalise (R., La.), the budget committee chairman and House majority leader, respectively.

“Mr. McCarthy has told colleagues he has no confidence in Mr. Arrington, the man responsible for delivering a budget framework laying out the spending cuts that Republicans have said they will demand in exchange for any move to increase the debt limit,” Jonathan Swan and Annie Karni wrote in the Times. McCarthy still regards Arrington, who sought to nominate Scalise during the speakership balloting, “as incompetent, according to more than half a dozen people familiar with this his thinking,” the Times revealed.

The leaks, in turn, appear only to have further chilled relations between McCarthy and some members of the conference.

“The members I’ve spoken with are just stunned by his rebuking of his budget chair, and certainly of our leadership,” an unnamed House Republican told Axios on Saturday. The representative expressed doubts McCarthy will serve the full extent of his speakership term.

“I can’t imagine.”

https://news.yahoo.com/stunned-house-republicans-blast-mccarthy-151335031.html

Things seem to be going as well as expected...

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'Stunned' House Republicans Blast McCarthy following NYT Leak (Original Post) Zorro Apr 2023 OP
Now JUst Who Couldn't See THat Boulder Rolling Downhill? Me. Apr 2023 #1
That's the thing about fuck-ups Turbineguy Apr 2023 #2
Lesson for today! pandr32 Apr 2023 #41
Fight! Fight! Fight! Hekate Apr 2023 #3
lol.. aren't "Leaks" done on purpose? Cha Apr 2023 #4
this is exactly it. stopdiggin Apr 2023 #28
"people within his own camp are (actively) stabbing him in the back" Et tu, Everyone? FSogol Apr 2023 #33
A Party of complete incompetents. OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2023 #5
Their position is probably that they don't need to deliver a budget. maxsolomon Apr 2023 #43
It's a plan....... MyOwnPeace Apr 2023 #53
REPUBLICANS IN DISARRAY sheshe2 Apr 2023 #6
Like toddlers fighting over loose bricks in their own brains. ananda Apr 2023 #15
Toddlers are so much smarter than the gop. sheshe2 Apr 2023 #16
It's all Hillary's fault! Btw, popcorn stocks hit a new high this a.m. om Wall Street! machoneman Apr 2023 #31
Doesn't look like herding those cats are going well for Kevin. republianmushroom Apr 2023 #7
We all know that "budget proposal" will be stupid ExWhoDoesntCare Apr 2023 #8
LoL "...the smartest of the very stupid people in Congress." LoL MayReasonRule Apr 2023 #36
Kick. n/t Upthevibe Apr 2023 #9
McCarthy rso Apr 2023 #10
Oh, that's a good one! Yeah, old Chuckiecheesehead will turn this into an attack on us Dems. In 5-4- machoneman Apr 2023 #34
Is that an actual quote or a prediction? ShazzieB Apr 2023 #37
McCarthy walks into a bar BOSSHOG Apr 2023 #11
McCarthy walks into a low bar and gets a concussion. (nt) Pinback Apr 2023 #21
McCarthy walks into a breath of fresh air and gets a concussion. BOSSHOG Apr 2023 #23
Ha, yes. Pinback Apr 2023 #40
lol housecat Apr 2023 #49
Jerry! Jerry! Jerry! nt EarthFirst Apr 2023 #12
What a bunch of unpatriotic fuck ups, holding their country hostage to their sick ambitions. n/t. NNadir Apr 2023 #13
The people who fund their campaigns select them for their obvious lack of character. hay rick Apr 2023 #18
are all the people that voted rethug because Biden "caused inflation and high gas prices" Takket Apr 2023 #14
That means nothing to them, newdayneeded Apr 2023 #35
A moron trying to lead fools. CanonRay Apr 2023 #17
Sooo dai13sy Apr 2023 #19
Well, when Kevin is kicked to the curb, as we all know he will be, Zilli Apr 2023 #20
but of course, MTG would be even more inept and stopdiggin Apr 2023 #29
Oh Lord, I pray at night that MTG becomes the next House Speaker! Or, Santos. Or Boberthead. Please. machoneman Apr 2023 #32
we could all laugh at it if these clueless fuckwads didn't have the power to LymphocyteLover Apr 2023 #22
They're "stunned" that McCarthy is a loose-lipped self saboteur? gratuitous Apr 2023 #24
None of us can "image" him making it for 2 years Renew Deal Apr 2023 #25
Yay! Children cannot lead! nt TeamProg Apr 2023 #26
LOL. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2023 #27
This if course. They ARE the national stage, couldn't Hortensis Apr 2023 #48
It doesn't matter. Any of them will do nothing in his place. live love laugh Apr 2023 #30
Much as I'd enjoy seeing Kev lose the Speakership, I fear who might succeed him. ShazzieB Apr 2023 #38
No tea and sympathy here, you soulless wastes of resources. niyad Apr 2023 #39
These are children, who don't know how to govern, obviously. Good grief. SWBTATTReg Apr 2023 #42
They didn't run for office to govern. Ligyron Apr 2023 #44
Running the House on a good day is like herding cats... Wounded Bear Apr 2023 #45
:) You reminded me of Nancy giving some rambunctious members Hortensis Apr 2023 #51
Nobody herded cats like Madame Speaker Pelosi. Nobody...nt Wounded Bear Apr 2023 #56
Please proceed Mr. Speaker. WheelWalker Apr 2023 #46
Randy Rainbow stage left Apr 2023 #47
Email him! housecat Apr 2023 #50
He did! Ramsey Barner Apr 2023 #52
!!!!! Fantastic. Paper Roses Apr 2023 #54
Oh great! stage left Apr 2023 #57
McCarthy might be blinded by power, but he's not as stupid as we thought Warpy Apr 2023 #55
The GQP won just enough house seats to establish total immobilization of government. lindysalsagal Apr 2023 #58

Turbineguy

(37,372 posts)
2. That's the thing about fuck-ups
Sun Apr 9, 2023, 08:40 PM
Apr 2023

you can't expect them to fuck-up in a limited way, like things you want fucked up. And not things you don't want fucked up.

stopdiggin

(11,384 posts)
28. this is exactly it.
Mon Apr 10, 2023, 12:53 AM
Apr 2023

people within his own camp are (actively) stabbing him in the back. No question but this is deliberate political knee-capping.

(either that or there's a massive amount of liquor on board .. and far too much 'happy hour' .. )

OAITW r.2.0

(24,656 posts)
5. A Party of complete incompetents.
Sun Apr 9, 2023, 09:02 PM
Apr 2023

But their voters liked their agenda,,,,gaslight Democrats. Except, they are in control of the House and they need to deliver a budget....a budget that most Americans have no interest in. What to do? Implode!

maxsolomon

(33,419 posts)
43. Their position is probably that they don't need to deliver a budget.
Mon Apr 10, 2023, 02:45 PM
Apr 2023

The Executive Branch proposes a budget, the Congress passes it, right?

They're not going to put their outline out for public consumption; they'll just snipe at Biden's. Much easier that way.

MyOwnPeace

(16,940 posts)
53. It's a plan.......
Mon Apr 10, 2023, 06:16 PM
Apr 2023

that has worked for the past 20 years or so - blame EVERYTHING on the Dems - they either have to 'provide' a budget (which they will shut down) OR, fail to provide one (if it is 'their turn') and claim the Dems would never pass it.

AND THE FOOLS (Yeah, you MAGAts!) believe it every time - and too many chicken-shit Dems fold because they don't have the balls to stand up and say: "BULLSHIT!!!!!!"

OK - OK - I know - 'DON'T BASH DEMS!' But I'm thinking that if they were 'real' Dems they'd step up and do the right thing!

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
8. We all know that "budget proposal" will be stupid
Sun Apr 9, 2023, 09:19 PM
Apr 2023

Because Arrington is mud level stupid.

What's amusing is that McCarthy is also stupid, but not so stupid as to trust what Arrington will let loose, and he certainly suspects it won't turn out well. Which indicates a bit of glimmer of a light behind those dead eyes of his.

I'm almost afraid to think that Kev might be the smartest of the very stupid people in Congress.

Is that an example of damning with faint praise?

MayReasonRule

(1,463 posts)
36. LoL "...the smartest of the very stupid people in Congress." LoL
Mon Apr 10, 2023, 09:00 AM
Apr 2023

I classify "Damning with faint praise" as a categorical subset of "Classic English Understatements".

“By God, sir, I've lost my leg!” “By God, sir, so you have!”


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machoneman

(4,012 posts)
34. Oh, that's a good one! Yeah, old Chuckiecheesehead will turn this into an attack on us Dems. In 5-4-
Mon Apr 10, 2023, 08:43 AM
Apr 2023

3-2-1. Mope!

ShazzieB

(16,542 posts)
37. Is that an actual quote or a prediction?
Mon Apr 10, 2023, 09:26 AM
Apr 2023

I suspect the latter, but I can't tell for sure. Poe's law strikes again!

BOSSHOG

(37,122 posts)
11. McCarthy walks into a bar
Sun Apr 9, 2023, 09:51 PM
Apr 2023

And calls another radical right wing maga moron incompetent. There’s gotta be a joke there somewhere.

When will the lunatics discover they are much happier in the minority? There they have no responsibility and they haven’t had the competence to lead, govern and manage money since I was a young sailor unconcerned with health care and a pension.

hay rick

(7,646 posts)
18. The people who fund their campaigns select them for their obvious lack of character.
Sun Apr 9, 2023, 10:11 PM
Apr 2023

The willingness to follow orders is an essential part of the desired employee profile. Competence, not so much.

Takket

(21,639 posts)
14. are all the people that voted rethug because Biden "caused inflation and high gas prices"
Sun Apr 9, 2023, 09:59 PM
Apr 2023

pleased with all the bills rethugs have passed to combat those issues?

dai13sy

(341 posts)
19. Sooo
Sun Apr 9, 2023, 10:30 PM
Apr 2023

with Gym Jordan and MTG telling McCarthy what to do and how to act I'm just sitting here in my front room clapping my hands loudly, making unlady-like noises and my Husband can make a whistle sound denigrating (so cool). McCarthy should be on the midnight train to nowhere soon

Zilli

(190 posts)
20. Well, when Kevin is kicked to the curb, as we all know he will be,
Sun Apr 9, 2023, 10:34 PM
Apr 2023

the next person to occupy this leadership role could likely be "The Shrieker of the House" "Marginal Traitor Greene", the most powerful Qpublican in her klan. The thought of this possibility is nauseating.
Thank you to whoever I swiped these great titles, for the awful individual, from.

stopdiggin

(11,384 posts)
29. but of course, MTG would be even more inept and
Mon Apr 10, 2023, 01:02 AM
Apr 2023

incompetent at the job that her predecessor ... Which would lead to more political circus - (pleasing the media - but not great many else, including the GOP - base or otherwise)

machoneman

(4,012 posts)
32. Oh Lord, I pray at night that MTG becomes the next House Speaker! Or, Santos. Or Boberthead. Please.
Mon Apr 10, 2023, 08:41 AM
Apr 2023

My god how stupid are these MAGAT House republicans? As deep as the ocean, as high as space, as thick...as a brick!

LymphocyteLover

(5,657 posts)
22. we could all laugh at it if these clueless fuckwads didn't have the power to
Sun Apr 9, 2023, 10:47 PM
Apr 2023

destroy the US economy. They need to raise the debt ceiling in the next 2 months and it's not clear they will be able to get their act together. Some of these psychos even WANT to crash the economy.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
24. They're "stunned" that McCarthy is a loose-lipped self saboteur?
Sun Apr 9, 2023, 11:00 PM
Apr 2023

Maybe we need to do a whole bunch of tests on House Republicans for brain damage.

Renew Deal

(81,881 posts)
25. None of us can "image" him making it for 2 years
Sun Apr 9, 2023, 11:14 PM
Apr 2023

He’s the perfect example of failing upwards. He’s a political flunky. But I'm not convinced they have better alternatives.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
48. This if course. They ARE the national stage, couldn't
Mon Apr 10, 2023, 05:07 PM
Apr 2023

scurry for the shadows if they wanted to. And no doubt they do.

ShazzieB

(16,542 posts)
38. Much as I'd enjoy seeing Kev lose the Speakership, I fear who might succeed him.
Mon Apr 10, 2023, 09:29 AM
Apr 2023

He looks positively sane compared to done of the other nutjobs in the GOP caucus.

SWBTATTReg

(22,174 posts)
42. These are children, who don't know how to govern, obviously. Good grief.
Mon Apr 10, 2023, 01:22 PM
Apr 2023

I guess one good thing about this pathetic state of disrepair by republicans and their efforts to literally do anything, is that they are showing all of America just how idiotic they truly are. Makes me wonder if they're all still listening to tRUMP and his idiotic mutterings, and continuing to block anything constructive, decent, etc. by the Biden administration.

More than likely they still are and continuing to fail to address serious issues that the Country faces. Republicans would rather perform 'gotcha' meetings and bowing down and kissing tRUMP's fungus-riddled feet.

Ligyron

(7,639 posts)
44. They didn't run for office to govern.
Mon Apr 10, 2023, 03:15 PM
Apr 2023

The ran to complain just like their idiot voters.

Well, that and hopefully get famous, which apparently is easy ... all you have to do is shout and yell and do outrageous things like Marginal Traitor Green, (so brilliantly named there).

Wounded Bear

(58,726 posts)
45. Running the House on a good day is like herding cats...
Mon Apr 10, 2023, 03:58 PM
Apr 2023

Running the House with a repub majority is like herding rabid, drug addled cats that haven't eaten in several days.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
51. :) You reminded me of Nancy giving some rambunctious members
Mon Apr 10, 2023, 05:22 PM
Apr 2023

"the look" her own kids knew well when they cheered during the impeachment vote. She was a strong leader because, above all, she inspired strong respect and trust. And she always knew where all 235 were.



stage left

(2,966 posts)
47. Randy Rainbow
Mon Apr 10, 2023, 04:21 PM
Apr 2023

needs to do a parody of Les Miserables "Master of the House" called Speaker of the House. That would be hilarious.

Warpy

(111,367 posts)
55. McCarthy might be blinded by power, but he's not as stupid as we thought
Mon Apr 10, 2023, 07:07 PM
Apr 2023

if he can see that his power is over the Klown Kongress and it's tenuous, at best.

Of course he's got little faith in the GOP leadership when it's Jordan, Greene, Boebert, Gosar, Biggs, Boggs, and the rest of the red nose orange wig squad.

I wouldn't change places with him for anything.

lindysalsagal

(20,741 posts)
58. The GQP won just enough house seats to establish total immobilization of government.
Mon Apr 17, 2023, 10:47 AM
Apr 2023

But I suspect some florida house seats are going to turn blue in the future.

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