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Nevilledog

(51,218 posts)
Mon Apr 10, 2023, 01:32 PM Apr 2023

Trump appeals order for Pence to testify in Jan. 6 probe

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/10/trump-appeal-pence-january-6-testimony-00091231

Donald Trump has appealed a judge’s order requiring his former vice president, Mike Pence, to testify to the grand jury probing the effort to subvert the 2020 election.

Trump’s appeal, filed under seal, was lodged on the court docket Monday morning. The former president had challenged the bid by special counsel Jack Smith to compel Pence’s testimony earlier this year, claiming it would intrude on conversations protected by executive privilege.

But Chief U.S. District Court Judge James Boasberg rejected Trump’s challenge, ruling last month that Pence could be compelled to testify. Boasberg, however, did fashion some limits to Smith’s inquiry; he agreed, in part, with a separate argument by Pence that some of his actions are protected by the Constitution’s “speech or debate” clause — which typically prevents Justice Department inquiry into members of Congress and their aides.

Under the Constitution, Pence as vice president also served as president of the Senate, entitling him to some measure of congressional immunity, Boasberg found. Although Pence and his allies felt that the ruling didn’t extend far enough, Pence opted not to appeal the decision.

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FarPoint

(12,462 posts)
1. Maybe I'm just ignorant...
Mon Apr 10, 2023, 01:35 PM
Apr 2023

but tRump has no business when it comes to this...It's Mike Pences order not tRumps...

Walleye

(31,069 posts)
3. The price tag for all of trump's litigious bullshit must be staggering
Mon Apr 10, 2023, 01:38 PM
Apr 2023

Where is all these outraged taxpayers about the waste of this money

The Magistrate

(95,257 posts)
9. That's Ridiculous, Sir
Mon Apr 10, 2023, 01:56 PM
Apr 2023

Midnight tonight for the appellant and dawn tomorrow for the government. This has been run through far too often for there to be any doubt what the law is regarding a former office-holder and indicted felon's right to exercise Executive privilege.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,657 posts)
12. Final briefs are not due until May 25 which gives TFG a chance to string things out
Mon Apr 10, 2023, 02:24 PM
Apr 2023

The executive privilege issue is a deal issue that TFG has lost a number of times. TFG has no standing to assert the speech and debate clause which is being waived by Pence

The Magistrate

(95,257 posts)
13. My Point Exactly, Sir: The Appeal Is Nonesense, It Should Be Over By Wednesday
Mon Apr 10, 2023, 02:28 PM
Apr 2023

No excuse for a judge to grant six weeks to this charade.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
6. Executive privilege?
Mon Apr 10, 2023, 01:41 PM
Apr 2023

Even if he could declare executive privilege, it would be over-ridden by the crime/fraud exception.

It is just another delay tactic.

SWBTATTReg

(22,176 posts)
11. If I'm not mistaken, I thought tRUMP was invited to testify, and he refused. So his efforts to
Mon Apr 10, 2023, 02:00 PM
Apr 2023

prevent pence from testifying should be ignored, since he refused to testify (tRUMP). His efforts should be ignored since he had an opportunity to testify but chose not to.

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