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https://www.emptywheel.net/2023/04/30/where-the-trump-investigations-stand-the-january-6-conspiracies/Excellent update and summary of the current status of Smiths investigation of the January 6 conspiracies, including pieces Smiths prosecutors still seem to be working on:
The most important of those may be continued appellate uncertainty regarding the law that Smith is likely to use to charge Trump and others in conjunction with January 6, obstruction of the vote certification, 18 USC 1512(c)(2), a charge successfully used against dozens of other January 6 defendants already. The DC Circuit will have a hearing on that, in an appeal former Virginia cop Thomas Robertson made of his obstruction conviction, on May 11.
To understand its import, let me explain how I think the various things Smith is investigating fit together. I think it likely that, in addition to some charges relating to the obstruction of this or the January 6 Committees investigation, Smiths team is pursuing:
Conspiracy to defraud the United States for submitting fake elector certificates to the Archives (18 USC 371)
Obstruction of the vote certification and conspiracy to obstruct (18 USC 1512(c)(2) and (k))
Conspiracy to commit wire fraud (18 USC 1343; 1349)
Aiding and abetting assault (18 USC 111(b) and 2)
This differs from the January 6 Committees referrals in that Ive included wire fraud, for which they provided abundant evidence, in an appendix, but did not include in their referrals. Also, I believe Smith would charge conspiracy tied to January 6 under 1512(k) rather than 371, as DOJ has been doing for over a year, not least because it provides stiffer sentences and more flexibility at sentencing. And Ive suggested DOJ might use aiding and abetting of Michael Fanones assault based off Amit Mehtas ruling addressing it and the evidence DOJ used in the Ed Badalian trial. I think thats more likely than a charge for incitement of insurrection (18 USC 2383) unless DOJ built upwards off of still-hypothetical guilty verdicts in the Proud Boys case, but it might take time. I frankly think adding seditious conspiracy charges would be more likely than incitement of insurrection, if one spent the time to build up the intervening case, but thats highly unlikely for constitutional reasons.
The way these three main charges conspiracy to defraud tied to the fake elector certificates, conspiracy to obstruct the vote certification, and wire fraud intersect likely provide some prosecutorial tools for the same reason that some Georgia Republicans are now turning on other ones.
To understand its import, let me explain how I think the various things Smith is investigating fit together. I think it likely that, in addition to some charges relating to the obstruction of this or the January 6 Committees investigation, Smiths team is pursuing:
Conspiracy to defraud the United States for submitting fake elector certificates to the Archives (18 USC 371)
Obstruction of the vote certification and conspiracy to obstruct (18 USC 1512(c)(2) and (k))
Conspiracy to commit wire fraud (18 USC 1343; 1349)
Aiding and abetting assault (18 USC 111(b) and 2)
This differs from the January 6 Committees referrals in that Ive included wire fraud, for which they provided abundant evidence, in an appendix, but did not include in their referrals. Also, I believe Smith would charge conspiracy tied to January 6 under 1512(k) rather than 371, as DOJ has been doing for over a year, not least because it provides stiffer sentences and more flexibility at sentencing. And Ive suggested DOJ might use aiding and abetting of Michael Fanones assault based off Amit Mehtas ruling addressing it and the evidence DOJ used in the Ed Badalian trial. I think thats more likely than a charge for incitement of insurrection (18 USC 2383) unless DOJ built upwards off of still-hypothetical guilty verdicts in the Proud Boys case, but it might take time. I frankly think adding seditious conspiracy charges would be more likely than incitement of insurrection, if one spent the time to build up the intervening case, but thats highly unlikely for constitutional reasons.
The way these three main charges conspiracy to defraud tied to the fake elector certificates, conspiracy to obstruct the vote certification, and wire fraud intersect likely provide some prosecutorial tools for the same reason that some Georgia Republicans are now turning on other ones.
Lots more, with receipts, at the link.
P.S. just a reminder, every time someone says Slam Dunk! an angel gets its wings ripped out by the roots.
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Emptywheel- Where the Trump investigations stand: January 6 conspiracies (Original Post)
Fiendish Thingy
Apr 2023
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(14,281 posts)1. Important info on Wire Fraud part of the investigation:
But even if you dont believe getting Trump elected provides an unlawful benefit to his supporters (or, to put it another way, disqualifying the votes of 81 million other Americans so yours counts more), disseminating false claims about voter fraud to get rich and then cashing in on that Big Lie for years afterwards is a different kind of corrupt purpose, the kind of financial corrupt purpose that Katsas is looking for.
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So its not just that the wire fraud part of the investigation is a crime that should, like all the other ways Trump and his flunkies have exploited his credulous followers, be prosecuted. Its a important complement to the two other conspiracies, both because its likely to motivate more cooperators, but also because it helps to prove corrupt purpose for all the people who profited off the fraud.
And that may have an impact on the timing.
As Ive noted, Trump should qualify under the definition of corrupt purpose no matter what the DC Circuit decides, though some of his flunkies might not. And so on top of whatever continued investigation Smith has to do on the wire fraud prong, he may want to wait until at least after that hearing before he makes final charging decisions.
Lots of people are impatient that neither Trump nor his flunkies have been charged thirty months after their crimes. But the likely charge hasnt even been defined yet.
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So its not just that the wire fraud part of the investigation is a crime that should, like all the other ways Trump and his flunkies have exploited his credulous followers, be prosecuted. Its a important complement to the two other conspiracies, both because its likely to motivate more cooperators, but also because it helps to prove corrupt purpose for all the people who profited off the fraud.
And that may have an impact on the timing.
As Ive noted, Trump should qualify under the definition of corrupt purpose no matter what the DC Circuit decides, though some of his flunkies might not. And so on top of whatever continued investigation Smith has to do on the wire fraud prong, he may want to wait until at least after that hearing before he makes final charging decisions.
Lots of people are impatient that neither Trump nor his flunkies have been charged thirty months after their crimes. But the likely charge hasnt even been defined yet.