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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Problem with Planned Parenthood
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/05/15/the-problem-with-planned-parenthoodSuch horror stories are a predictable consequence of the fear that criminalizing abortion has spread through the medical community. For fifty years, Roe protected providers from legal risks like the ones taken on by the Jane Collective, an underground network of women in Chicago. Collective members arranged more than eleven thousand illegal abortions in the late nineteen-sixties and early seventies, until a team of detectives raided their makeshift clinic and charged them with multiple counts of conspiracy to commit abortion. (Just before their cases went to trial, the Supreme Court legalized abortion.) Arguably, providers face greater legal dangers now than they did before Roe. Carole Joffe, a sociologist who has written about the history of abortion, told me that doctors who performed illegal procedures in the past typically received sentences of a few years, whereas physicians today face an aggressive anti-abortion movement that, in some states, is calling for life imprisonment. Abortion opponents have also targeted organizations such as Planned Parenthood with spurious lawsuits and violent attacks, in an effort to shut them down.
Planned Parenthoods motto is Care. No matter what. These words suggest an uncompromising commitment to serving patients. Yet some pro-choice advocates feel that the group, along with other large organizations that have shaped the modern abortion-rights movement, has lately seemed more focussed on self-preservation than on taking bold risks. Tracy Weitz, a reproductive-rights scholar who directs the Center on Health, Risk, and Society, at American University, told me she is worried that these groups are being guided too strongly by attorneys whose priority is to shield them from lawsuits. The mission of Planned Parenthood is not institutional survival, Weitz said. Their entire goal, their mission, is to serve patients. If caution supersedes this goal, she warns, not only will patients suffer but the pro-choice movement will fall into a familiar trap. One of the critiques of the abortion-rights movement is that we put too much faith in the law, believing that it would protect the right to abortion, she said. I think its ironic that all of a sudden we have turned over this movement to a whole new group of lawyersnot constitutional lawyers but risk managers.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)...until the members sue the Board for crashing the institution.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,453 posts)Demsrule86
(68,703 posts)Fuck the New Yorker for not calling out SCOTUS and Republicans for causing all of this. This is a terrible thread. It should be deleted. It is an attack on planned parenthood and has no place here.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)to serve women in their communities. Health care for women is what they do. And women have relied on their care. Where else will they go? Who else will serve their needs?
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,453 posts)RobinA
(9,896 posts)CT's point is that PP does much more in healthcare than provide abortions.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,453 posts)clinics.
Demsrule86
(68,703 posts)a link.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,453 posts)provides abortion and other reproductive care services and is not affiliated with Planned Parenthood. Some of the ones in Minnesota include:
We Health Clinic
Red River Clinic
Whole Women's Health
Demsrule86
(68,703 posts)want to get rid of planned parenthood...no way. This reeks of a GOP plot used for deception
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,453 posts)Demsrule86
(68,703 posts)kill Planned Parenthood because it would undoubtedly break state laws...he is likely one of those misguided folks who think Planned Parenthood is an establishment organization.
betsuni
(25,663 posts)and therefore ignore the working class because corrupt. The mind reels.
Demsrule86
(68,703 posts)Parenthood does much more than abortions...well care, sick care contraceptives at little to no cost. We know because we used such care. I did and so did many other women. And I would like to see where the New Yorker got their information too...I don't believe any of it. It sounds completely right-wing.
RobinA
(9,896 posts)when I was in college in the '70's that was where you got birth control and other female healthcare should you need it. That's where everybody went. Back then you didn't, at least most people didn't, discuss this kind of thing with their mothers. The girl network said Planned Parenthood was where to go. It was less intimidating than going to a GYN practice. At least in my area.
crickets
(25,986 posts)marybourg
(12,639 posts)destroy one of the few institutions that support low income women.
The root of the problem is the enormous investment every physician has made in their own professional education, making them ultra- cautious and -conservative in protecting themselves.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,453 posts)The work Planned Parenthood did in undermining the work other organizations were doing in Minnesota to roll back restrictions on abortion has little to do with physicians protecting themselves and was an active decision by the organization.
Demsrule86
(68,703 posts)Phoenix61
(17,019 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,453 posts)what that does to the movement as a whole.
leftstreet
(36,116 posts)This is an issue of class, and yes PP risks tossing the healthcare of low income women overboard to save their own asses legally.
Easterncedar
(2,337 posts)They helped me when I was young and needed basic gynecological care and had no insurance nor access to a GP or Ob/Gyn. They have been on the front lines of some very very dangerous ideological battles and have managed to survive. I hate that they have to fight to provide healthcare. Thats the problem, and its one we all should be stepping up to solve.
Demsrule86
(68,703 posts)I would have done without care without them. And I resent this effort to destroy a group that has helped millions and millions of women
multigraincracker
(32,729 posts)one that would provide service to me. As a 50 year old male with no children, they provided me with a low cost vasectomy. I was turned down every where else.
Hekate
(90,842 posts)Theres much more to this
Demsrule86
(68,703 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,453 posts)Demsrule86
(68,703 posts)such clinics...and I would like to see a link about this. The only ones I know are one by Evangelicals which is basically a baby-stealing operation...babies are worth money in expensive private adoptions.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,453 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,453 posts)leftstreet
(36,116 posts)XanaDUer2
(10,757 posts)Solly Mack
(90,789 posts)It was worth the read.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,453 posts)XanaDUer2
(10,757 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,453 posts)Phoenix61
(17,019 posts)Not one single man or woman. Thats what they do, provide medical care and education. They are not a political organization. Might as well get pissed the DNC doesnt provide abortions. Makes every bit as much sense.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,453 posts)It's the biggest player on the block when it comes to reproductive advocacy. When it plays it safe, it takes away momentum from the movement as a whole and cedes ground that independent clinics argue should be held.
Phoenix61
(17,019 posts)$676,765 in total to candidates in the 2022 election cycle. None of those donations were over $10,000. Its not their job, nor their responsibility to spear head abortion rights activities. Those independent clinics want a champion? They are free to form their own PAC and donate to whoever that want.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,453 posts)organization spent a total of $50 million -- its most every -- on elections in 2022. They are definitely a political player and to pretend otherwise makes little sense to me.
Phoenix61
(17,019 posts)PAC Summary Data, 2021-2022
Total Raised $1,152,094
Total Spent $999,914
Begin Cash on Hand $91,117
End Cash on Hand Receipts $243,297
Debts $0
Date of Last Report December 31, 2022
Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #41)
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Phoenix61
(17,019 posts)unless theres a PAC I havent found
Planned Parenthood Votes
PAC Summary Data, 2021-2022
Total Raised $26,509,091
Total Spent $24,563,911
Begin Cash on Hand $1,241,390
End Cash on Hand Receipts $3,186,570
Debts $653,582
Independent Expenditures $8,167,016
All of which doesnt change my point that if independent clinics are unhappy they are free to form their own PAC.