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highplainsdem

(49,001 posts)
Sat May 13, 2023, 08:16 PM May 2023

Why Google's New ChatGPT-Style Search Could Kill the Websites That Feed It (PC Mag)

https://www.pcmag.com/opinions/why-googles-new-chatgpt-style-search-could-kill-the-websites-that-feed
Archive at https://archive.ph/47gOH

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But what if that wealth of content is reduced to grist for a bigger mill? Google's new AI search experience pushes links to articles below the digital fold, summarizing the response to a search query up top as a conversational, ChatGPT-style paragraph. Content in the answer, a mini-article in itself, can theoretically come from PCMag and a host of other publications.

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Writers watching a live demo of the new experience at Google's I/O conference found it chilling. “Did Google receive that e-bike and set it up?" asks Angela Moscaritolo, PCMag's health and fitness expert. She reviewed the Aventon Aventure Ebike, which the demo suggested for commuters as "good for hill climbing."

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With what we've seen from Google thus far, users can't truly know if the information came from a PCMag article, customer reviews, marketing claims on a manufacturer's product page—or some undistinguished mish-mosh of all that. The even more chilling thing for society as a whole? If Google goes down this path, that source material could end up less likely to be from trusted publications and sources, because the revenue hit they take means they may not be around.

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"Google has been juggling between whether it's dependent on journalism, or whether it wants to usurp it, for years," says Segan. "It seems to keep wanting to grow into...the canonical, one-stop source for information. But as it does that, it risks destroying all of the information sources it uses."


I've seen a lot of commentary like this already on Google's asinine plans for their new search.

The little article their bot will present is basically designed to end the search there. It doesn't quote any sites or link directly to them from the article. There will of course be ads designed to sell you something. But you won't know the sources of the article's information.

It's the search equivalent of the text-generating AI ripping off countless writers, and the image-generating AI ripping off visual artists, and the music AI ripping off singers and musicians.

And it will badly hurt the very websites it draws its information from.

Google's Sundar Pichai, like OpenAI's Sam Altman, appears to be so hypnotized by AI that his own brain has stopped working.
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Why Google's New ChatGPT-Style Search Could Kill the Websites That Feed It (PC Mag) (Original Post) highplainsdem May 2023 OP
PC Mag is still around? Wow. Well, that is good to see (that it's still around)... SWBTATTReg May 2023 #1
EU Legistation Metaphorical May 2023 #2
I hope we'll follow the EU's lead. Here's a thread I ran across the highplainsdem May 2023 #4
Money quote from a Futurism article, that lays it out: LudwigPastorius May 2023 #3
Great quote and article! Thanks! highplainsdem May 2023 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author ARPad95 May 2023 #5
?????? Did you mean to post that in the Genealogy group? highplainsdem May 2023 #6
Solution: shun Google. Hermit-The-Prog May 2023 #8

Metaphorical

(1,603 posts)
2. EU Legistation
Sat May 13, 2023, 09:53 PM
May 2023

is currently in the works that would require that any content that is generated by an AI contain relevant citations to the source material of that particular content, upon penalty of being banned by the EU for repeated violations. This Act (https://artificialintelligenceact.eu/) is both broad and rather stunning in its implications, in that it basically says that the European Union will not let AI destroy the livelihood of its citizens by theft of source material, lack of provenance of citation, or lack of compensation for those creators whose content is used by large language model systems. I expect if it does go through, you can expect California to release a similar act (Newsom has indicated his desire to do so), likely with other states such as New York, Massachusetts and Washington following suit.

highplainsdem

(49,001 posts)
4. I hope we'll follow the EU's lead. Here's a thread I ran across the
Sat May 13, 2023, 10:42 PM
May 2023

other day on some changes that were just made to the AI Act - thread starts here:


LudwigPastorius

(9,155 posts)
3. Money quote from a Futurism article, that lays it out:
Sat May 13, 2023, 10:40 PM
May 2023
Google's new search interface, which is built on a model that's already been trained by way of boatloads upon boatloads of unpaid-for human output, will seemingly be swallowing even more human-made content and spitting it back out to information-seekers, all the while taking valuable clicks away from the publishers that are actually doing the work of reporting, curating, and holding powerful interests like Google to account.


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