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Russia is floating a plan to build a village for conservative Americans who want to move to a 'Christian country' and are tired of liberal ideology in the US
Matthew Loh May 12, 2023, 3:16 AM EDT
Russia is building a village for US expats who are tired of liberal ideology, a lawyer told state media.
The project is approved, and slated to house some 200 American and Canadian families, he said.
Russia has in recent years sought to position itself as a bastion for "traditional" moral values.
Russia is floating an idea to build a village for hundreds of American and Canadian families who want to run away from the cultural climate in North America.
The village, slated for construction in Moscow's suburbs in 2024, is meant for conservative families who want to "emigrate for ideological reasons," said immigration lawyer Timur Beslangurov on Thursday, according to RIA Novosti.
Around 200 families have expressed interest in the project, Beslangurov said in a speech at a legal forum in St. Petersburg, the state outlet reported.
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Irish_Dem
(47,131 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,457 posts)Warpy
(111,271 posts)Gay kids born to phobe families in the middle of nowhere in the US can stick their thumbs out and head for a city where they can be accepted. Put them in the middle of nowhere in Russia, that's really not the case, although the two big cities tend to be more tolerant.
Plus, they're still going to bring some troublesome and unpopular ideas to Russia and I think the limits on basic human freedoms in Russia are going to cause most of them to turn around and come back here. Plus, they're not going to enjoy the weather. Oh, they're also not going to like the flavor of "Christianity" they find there, although they'll love despising their gay children.
Still, I think they will find a few takers. Neither side is going to be pleased with the result.
Irish_Dem
(47,131 posts)The whole idea of the MAGAs moving to Russia is priceless on so many levels.
Warpy
(111,271 posts)Remember, they're building a town in which they're supposed to live, meaning Siberia or even the far east. Except for the weather, it would be heaven for the parents, hell for the kids. The parents would be told how to think and they love that. The kids, not so much.
Irish_Dem
(47,131 posts)They would be shocked.
I spent some time years ago visiting an impoverished autocratic very repressive regime
and it was truly terrifying every day I was there.
Warpy
(111,271 posts)and ran like hell for Boston when I'd accumulated enough age and money to do so and make it stick.
People who live in those places are used to that level of background terror. Right wingers want that for us, but certainly not for themselves, They're the righteous ones, after all, washed in the blood of the lamb (ick). They are in no way prepared to experience it, themselves, and any with the means to do so will come back at the soonest opportunity.
Irish_Dem
(47,131 posts)It was unbelievable. Red Hat police everywhere terrorizing the populace.
Chinese people very thin, hungry, not making eye contact.
Heads down.
In the hotel, all American emails in and out were read by authorities.
Red hats confiscated our cameras. I once sat down outside on a ledge around
a small fountain. A red hat police came over and made me move.
In China at the time, people were not allowed to sit around anywhere.
Hardly any seats in the airport, etc.
Once in an airport I saw the red hats approach two men and the men
looked truly terrified and they were literately dragged away by the red hats.
Once a group of Chinese police including one red hat came towards me
and my life passed before my eyes in fear.
When I left China, most of the people in the plane were Americans and we
all literally cheered in joy as we left Chinese airspace.
Of course now much has changed in China. The Chinese have a better lifestyle
and the red hat police are gone, now they are all undercover and give the
Chinese a lot of space.
But yes the Magas are in for a very rude awakening.
TheBlackAdder
(28,208 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,131 posts)How can the MAGAs resist an all expenses paid trip to the promised land. Russia.
sakabatou
(42,152 posts)LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)We have issues over here with poverty, but their standard of living outside of Russia and St. Petersberg is HIDEOUS, and where most live are really SHIT HOLES.
The only folks making big bucks there are tugboat captains. Teachers, doctor and the like
Their global universities for clinical medicine are excellent though.
I wish those racist asses from the south would take their asses over to Russia.
Iggo
(47,558 posts)emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)Iggo
(47,558 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,340 posts)as a place where one goes to find comfy underwear. A thing I value more each year.
SomedayKindaLove
(529 posts)If they surrender their citizenship
momta
(4,079 posts)As long as I can wear ear plugs while I drive
BootinUp
(47,165 posts)sellitman
(11,607 posts)I volunteer him.
keithbvadu2
(36,827 posts)reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)VGNonly
(7,495 posts)Putin needs more cannon fodder.
Srkdqltr
(6,295 posts)Scrivener7
(50,955 posts)mahina
(17,665 posts)Fabulous idea. So so so many white people in Russia.
Do I feel a little bit sorry for anyone who would bite? Yes, but they are already there in their minds.
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area51
(11,910 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)As for libertarians (effectively RW in action -- they are NOT liberal socially), they always do their best to destroy the institutions of our government, as do regular RWers, but are only able to in those times when Republicans have control of government.
When Democrats do, like now, we clean out, rebuild our institutions, repair the economy they've gutted for wealth transfers to those they serve.
And, yes, liberal ideology dominates the western world, and the Democratic Party is America's liberal party.
moondust
(19,993 posts)Like war crimes and criminalization of free speech? More description of modern Russia below.
Two days ago Sky News interviewed the former Russian state TV journalist now in exile who held up this sign:
covering:
🔵 How Putin could be toppled
🔵 The risk of a civil war
🔵 The Kremlins propaganda machine
🔵 Alexei Navalny
🔵 Evan Gershkovich
➕ her decision to protest on-air
~30 minutes, speaking Russian with subtitles:
Mike Nelson
(9,959 posts)... what a great idea! I know Donald and Melania will be first in line. Only sorry that it's limited to 200...
fierywoman
(7,685 posts)ColinC
(8,301 posts)Quixote1818
(28,946 posts)so it seems likely they just want a bunch of idiot sheep to keep the country growing in population since they have been declining. It's a win, win for those in power.
BadgerMom
(2,771 posts)Walleye
(31,028 posts)You know, in case they need to overthrow a tyrannical government.
Baitball Blogger
(46,735 posts)want to fight to take over this country. I hope we're smart enough to revoke their citizenship.
SouthernDem4ever
(6,617 posts)No dual citizenship for the traitors.
Jarqui
(10,126 posts)MAGAts armed with AR-15s would be perfect for them
SouthernDem4ever
(6,617 posts)Don't let the sickle hit you on the ass on the way in.
Beachnutt
(7,324 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,945 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,945 posts)I doubt they would move there for that reason.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)Good riddance to bad rubbish!
Gore1FL
(21,132 posts)Bev54
(10,053 posts)colorado_ufo
(5,734 posts)TomDaisy
(1,874 posts)Who he will then exploit to the fullest.
And there will be no Constitution to protect them.
VeryProgressive
(27 posts)Russian propaganda is such a joke now. A bastion for "traditional" moral values. Being in quotes is appropriate. Unbelievable. What a shithole country they have become.
The Unmitigated Gall
(3,819 posts)These are the ideological descendants of the Calvinists and Puritans who turned their backs on the European enlightenment and fled to the dark wilds of New England to found their theocratic paradise. And burn a few "witches" while at it.
"America, love it or leave it", these people used to shout.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)religion and culture will feel right at home to American Catholics. I'm getting warm fuzzies just thinking about it. Do they know, I wonder, that half of Russians are areligious, but otoh they're likely to be isolated
As for Putin's commitment to their futures, a "village" of 200 residential units is not a serious project. I'm guessing they'll be separate cottages around a town square that photograph decently, at least from the outside, but he may also have lost interest in this PR stunt.
Crowman2009
(2,497 posts)They'll be in for a rude awakening when they can't spread their murica brand of evangelism in Russia.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Last I heard, there are way over over a billion Catholics, in many nations.
A bunch of nut cases so far. Which is what one would expect, but such a select subset.
Crowman2009
(2,497 posts)Usually their type goes to either South America, Italy or Spain.
lees1975
(3,860 posts)and want to experience freedom and civil liberties.
But there would be millions of those lining up, the population of that village would exceed our largest city.
ZonkerHarris
(24,229 posts)Captain Zero
(6,806 posts)no way
JHB
(37,160 posts)ZonkerHarris
(24,229 posts)GenThePerservering
(1,824 posts)Stay away from the windows and don't let anyone near your samovar.
Johonny
(20,851 posts)at first.
GenThePerservering
(1,824 posts)IndianaDave
(612 posts)that they will be living in an absolute, confirmed, historically verified socialist (should I capitalize that for emphasis?) country where -- if they are permitted to vote (doubtful) -- their votes will mean nothing. The regime has been predetermined and is immutable. Regardless of the ultimate circumstances in which they find themselves in "Mother Russia," they should never be permitted to return to the United States (or Canada, if applicable). They must agree to this before leaving. May they find comfort in the "news" they consume, in the level of surveillance they experience, and in the diminishing value of their rubles. Y'all stay there, now! And you'd damned well better learn to speak the language of your new country. As you have told many immigrants in this country, "Learn to speak English, or go back where you came from!" Now it's your turn. That Cyrillic alphabet can be a little confusing for some. But we're sure you'll do just fine. Right!
PortTack
(32,774 posts)Ppl with money that move there will find their funds confiscated. Happens all the time. To say nothing of the horrid living conditions.
dobleremolque
(492 posts)Cha
(297,297 posts)rid of magats and their votes.
GenThePerservering
(1,824 posts)give them a bunch of fake brochures, then load them onto a plane. Dump them off in Moscow.
IndianaDave
(612 posts)that those who, literally, HATE migrants want to be migrants themselves. See how nice it is when the country to which you want to migrate is so welcoming? Does this teach you anything? Of course, it doesnt!
Wednesdays
(17,380 posts)They need to up that by a few tens of millions.
Demobrat
(8,980 posts)from where they were born? Theyre not going to Russia.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,107 posts)Hell, I would even chip in a small amount.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Orrex
(63,215 posts)Putin is welcome to every last one of them.
Crowman2009
(2,497 posts)It didn't end well for them. But in today's case, let the MAGA bunch flee to Putin land and see what happens. Especially to all those firearms they own.
AZLD4Candidate
(5,698 posts)Now it's I'd rather be Russian than a Democrat.
Hey, MAGAts, you have your opportunity now.
ShazamIam
(2,574 posts)will go there. I think it is where they belong.
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)kairos12
(12,862 posts)yardwork
(61,650 posts)hatrack
(59,587 posts)Yes, investing in real estate from 5,000 miles away in a bankrupt, gangster economy in a country engaging in a genocidal war, where it's almost certain that anyone stupid enough to do so can't speak the local language - all of that so that you can own libs.
Sounds legit.
newdayneeded
(1,955 posts)Oh, and make it 200,000 please.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)He loves Russians and we'd like to be rid of him.
Vinca
(50,278 posts)pwb
(11,276 posts).