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(84,932 posts)
Sun May 14, 2023, 12:38 AM May 2023

White Evangelicals, This is Why People Are Through With You

Dear White Evangelicals,

I need to tell you something: People have had it with you.

They’re done.

They want nothing to do with you any longer, and here’s why:

They see your hypocrisy, your inconsistency, your incredibly selective mercy, and your thinly veiled supremacy.

For eight years they watched you relentlessly demonize a black President; a man faithfully married for 26 years; a doting father and husband without a hint of moral scandal or the slightest whiff of infidelity.

They watched you deny his personal faith convictions, argue his birthplace, and assail his character—all without cause or evidence. They saw you brandish Scriptures to malign him and use the laziest of racial stereotypes in criticizing him.

MORE: https://johnpavlovitz.com/2018/01/24/white-evangelicals-people/
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White Evangelicals, This is Why People Are Through With You (Original Post) sheshe2 May 2023 OP
K&R nt flying rabbit May 2023 #1
K&R MustLoveBeagles May 2023 #2
Let those fucking hypocrites have it with both barrels Blue Owl May 2023 #3
K&R! ShazzieB May 2023 #4
Thanks, She 💖 KnR Hekate May 2023 #5
Yes. They hated that the Obamas were smarter, classier and better looking than them Buckeyeblue May 2023 #6
Now more than ever. ariadne0614 May 2023 #7
I was going to point out this was a bit old, so apparently we are not quite through Arthur_Frain May 2023 #13
K&R brer cat May 2023 #8
People still don't get it Johnny2X2X May 2023 #9
Worse than that. KentuckyWoman May 2023 #10
Good point Johnny2X2X May 2023 #11
Yes JanLip May 2023 #17
And don't leave out that "the Jews killed Jesus" bullshit either... Wounded Bear May 2023 #14
Evangelicals love power. Trape gives them power. orthoclad May 2023 #22
Yep, King Cyrus Lars39 May 2023 #25
The "Holy Trinity" of magavangelicals: usonian May 2023 #12
And they'll have one of these signs out front while they preach verses from The Elders of Zion ArkansasDemocrat1 May 2023 #30
Truth Martin68 May 2023 #15
Kick. n/t Upthevibe May 2023 #16
White American Evangelicals have always been a-holes. GarColga May 2023 #18
They are the inheritors GenThePerservering May 2023 #21
Goes back further than Constantine orthoclad May 2023 #24
My mission is to oppose their mission MyMission May 2023 #19
Pavlovitz gets it. So does Signal Press lees1975 May 2023 #20
I was done with BlueMTexpat May 2023 #23
In a word, inspired. dchill May 2023 #26
My mom, 89, is an evangelical onlyadream May 2023 #27
K&R onecaliberal May 2023 #28
In the name of racism, misogyny, pedophilia, and greed. Amen. OMGWTF May 2023 #29
K&R NullTuples May 2023 #31
I love John Pavlovitz n/t TexasBushwhacker May 2023 #32
I read this when it was first published years ago and it still rings true today. japple May 2023 #33
K&R! gademocrat7 May 2023 #34
K&R BlueWaveNeverEnd May 2023 #35
Amen to that Joinfortmill May 2023 #36


(5,544 posts)
6. Yes. They hated that the Obamas were smarter, classier and better looking than them
Sun May 14, 2023, 07:13 AM
May 2023

I had to quit Facebook in 2012 because I got tired of the racism and lies.

Facebook was fun until the deplorables figured out how create a username and password.


(1,775 posts)
7. Now more than ever.
Sun May 14, 2023, 07:41 AM
May 2023

Pavlovitz wrote this over five years ago, and it’s as relevant now as it was then. Ever since *rump seized center stage after Obama, his malevolent incitement has widened the scope. With Obama gone, the mob has turned its weapons on the rest of us—Blacks, women and others on the gender spectrum, non-white immigrants, Jews, and democracy itself. They revile “wokeness” because they know it means we’re awake and aware of their vile intentions. They fear the growing wrath of the majority will reach critical mass if they don’t stop the rising tide.

Thanks for posting the link. It was worth the read:
You violently opposed him at every single turn—without offering a single ounce of the grace you claim as the heart of your faith tradition. You jettisoned Jesus as you dispensed damnation on him.

And yet you give carte blanche to a white Republican man so riddled with depravity, so littered with extramarital affairs, so unapologetically vile, with such a vast resume of moral filth—that the mind boggles.

And the change in you is unmistakable. It has been an astonishing conversion to behold: a being born again.


(1,901 posts)
13. I was going to point out this was a bit old, so apparently we are not quite through
Sun May 14, 2023, 10:51 AM
May 2023

Never will be, they’re outbreeding us quite frankly, the faithful take that be fruitful and multiply shit to heart.


(19,908 posts)
9. People still don't get it
Sun May 14, 2023, 09:35 AM
May 2023

Evangelicals love Trump not in spite of his poor and violent treatment of women, but because of it. Evangelicals believe the natural order of things given to them by god is for women to be little more than the property of men, to be used and abused.

Nothing hypocritical about it, their religion is built on the ideas towards women that Trump embodies.


(6,728 posts)
10. Worse than that.
Sun May 14, 2023, 09:44 AM
May 2023

They believe dark skin is given by God on purpose as the mark of Cain (evil). Then it got baked in when Noah cursed Ham's son Canaan ( and the Canaanites ).

Add in that Eve threw in with the Devil and by extension all women and you have the absolute bedrock of the DNA that makes up white evangelical Christianity.


(19,908 posts)
11. Good point
Sun May 14, 2023, 09:59 AM
May 2023

Todays evangelical Christian movement is harmonious with everything vile Republicans believe. Racism, sexism, hatred of LGTBQ folk, worship of greed, guns, cruelty towards the poor, that’s what that sect of Christianity believes in. It’s truly a vile group without an ounce of compassion or love in their hearts.


(3,025 posts)
22. Evangelicals love power. Trape gives them power.
Sun May 14, 2023, 01:17 PM
May 2023

They use the excuse of some OT king, a major sinner, who still did the Israelites a power favor. They say God is using him as a tool.
A tool for their temporal power. Over everyone.


(1,722 posts)
30. And they'll have one of these signs out front while they preach verses from The Elders of Zion
Sun May 14, 2023, 03:50 PM
May 2023

You know, the one that says John 3:16


(130 posts)
18. White American Evangelicals have always been a-holes.
Sun May 14, 2023, 12:54 PM
May 2023

They are a thinly disguised secular movement that has opposed every social advance since the abolition of slavery.


(2,111 posts)
21. They are the inheritors
Sun May 14, 2023, 01:15 PM
May 2023

of everything vicious in Christianity since Constantine, and that's a lot of viciousness.


(3,025 posts)
24. Goes back further than Constantine
Sun May 14, 2023, 01:32 PM
May 2023

from Highway 61 Revisited:
Oh, God said to Abraham, “Kill me a son”
Abe said, “Man, you must be puttin' me on”
God say, “No.”
Abe say, “What?”
God say, “You can do what you want, Abe, but
The next time you see me comin' you better run”
Well, Abe said, “Where you want this killin' done?"

The Abrahamic patriarchy, based on propitiating an angry being with human sacrifice. The beginning of these desert religions.

Constantine made it all globally official, with the weight of the Roman state enforcing it, and punishing all the new heresies defined at Nicaea.

Evangos seem to like the OT much better than "love is the whole of the law". Lots of blood and punishment in the OT. And earthly kingdoms. With power over their neighbors.


(1,867 posts)
19. My mission is to oppose their mission
Sun May 14, 2023, 01:00 PM
May 2023

Most of the evangelical folks I've met go on mission trips, abroad and within the US, to perform good works and preach selected parts of their bible and convert and recruit others to their church. They are cults. Their leaders preach and brainwash, and instruct them how to vote. Citizens United! F¢©k them! Their numbers are dwindling and their agenda is not appealing (and downright scary) to many unchurched right wing and independent voters, not to mention the younger generation.

Thanks for sharing this!


(2,176 posts)
27. My mom, 89, is an evangelical
Sun May 14, 2023, 02:29 PM
May 2023

She voted for Trump twice, and didn’t tell me for a very long time. Then she said that she never thought he’d get elected, but she voted twice. She constantly tries to get me to believe in the Holy Spirit, she says it changes you, you become like Christ. I told her that I would never believe that because she voted for Trump, and if the Holy Spirit was a thing, then she should deplore Trump. There’s no way Jesus would endorse Trump, according to the Bible, Jesus loathed hypocrisy. No way. So now I completely question everything. At this point I believe we’re nothing more than alien play things.


(4,165 posts)
29. In the name of racism, misogyny, pedophilia, and greed. Amen.
Sun May 14, 2023, 02:46 PM
May 2023

Fuck you all to hell. Your bullshit fairytale cult destroyed my family.


(10,064 posts)
33. I read this when it was first published years ago and it still rings true today.
Sun May 14, 2023, 07:28 PM
May 2023

I wish every single r-winger could be made to read this every day and have it broadcast to them in their dreams. But they will never acknowledge or repent from what was done to President Obama and his family for the 8 years of his presidency and the years before and after. They are still kicking the Obamas.

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