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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat if everybody threw their hands up and let the idiots win
If we just gave up and let them have a rethug majority congress and President what would happen to this country ?
No more Social Security as we know it, no more help for the disabled and the poor, longer work week with no unions, Higher prescription cost, higher taxes with no child tax credits, no more public schools, guns galore with more mass shootings, infrastucture collapse, lgbtq outlawed, abortion outlawed no more school lunch programs and food assistance, no minimum wage, climate change will run rampant with more fossil fuel drilling, clean energy programs stopped with more coal production, pollution rampant.
Add to the list.
This is why we must vote and win.
FalloutShelter
(11,869 posts)End of Obama care
No more birth control
WW3 as we abandon NATO
Croney
(4,661 posts)It will bring the revolution!
...Susan Saranwrap
Biophilic
(3,665 posts)It will be us regular folk who get caught up in it and suffer. Just like if we give up and let the republicans take over. Wealthy people will hardly notice, but the rest of us certainly will.
Beachnutt
(7,324 posts)Biophilic
(3,665 posts)flying rabbit
(4,635 posts)Backseat Driver
(4,393 posts)far fewer Americans would actually enjoy at the top for very long--thank heaven for a few Constitutionally written term limits, unstated oh-so-flexible enforcement criteria, and a taint-proof co-equal branch without ethic standards, you know?
yellowdogintexas
(22,264 posts)gab13by13
(21,359 posts)and Trump will be the nominee. All he needs is a few of us to throw our hands up. Looks to me like another GOTV to save our democracy. Will it be a fair election? Will the Supreme Court give the states absolute authority to run their elections? If the SC court makes that ruling (upcoming) they could "win" without our throwing up our hands.
Beachnutt
(7,324 posts)of the supreme court then, correct ?
What can be done to stop this theft ?
cachukis
(2,245 posts)malaise
(269,050 posts)The scumbag is liable for Sexual Abuse - victories take time - the struggle never stops.
Pause and celebrate as we continue to organize and fight back.
Beachnutt
(7,324 posts)Thank you.
malaise
(269,050 posts)That verdict was the Mother's Day present we needed. A lot of women and the men who love us exhaled as we saw some serious financial consequences.
2naSalit
(86,646 posts)Controlled by brutality.
Beachnutt
(7,324 posts)The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)They want to privateer it to fix what is not broken. Just like they did for healthcare. Now look how great our healthcare is.
Still waiting for that republican healthcare plan.
Sarcasm
Beachnutt
(7,324 posts)they will privatize and monetize everything public.
More toll roads too.
appalachiablue
(41,144 posts)Martin Eden
(12,870 posts)Idiots in this context are defined as the MAGA masses duped into believing lies and triggered by culture war rhetoric.
The plain fact of the matter is the corporate masters and the politicians who serve them don't give a damn about the idiots who vote for them. Their economic policies favor only the rich -- not those who need good paying jobs, affordable healthcare, quality education, and safety from gun violence.
The idiots in thrall to religious charlatans who preach the cult of Donald Trump gain absolutely nothing from abortion bans and breaking down the wall between church and state. They are already free to practice their religion as they choose. They may feel satisfaction from having their own narrow minded beliefs imposed on others, but all that really gains them is the enmity of their fellow citizens and a more bitterly divided America.
And that last bit, my friends, is the strategy at work here.
The greatest obstacle to more wealth and power concentrated in fewer hands are American citizens who recognize their common interests and understand how to use their vote to elect representatives who truly serve their interests.
The malefactors of great wealth need us to be at each other's throats, not demanding a fair share for the vital work we do in powering the economic engine which produces that wealth.
A great man once said a house divided against itself cannot stand.
That is just as true today as it was when Abraham Lincoln spoke those words.
Beachnutt
(7,324 posts)Thank you.
Chickens voting for Colonel Sanders
Martin Eden
(12,870 posts)How true.
multigraincracker
(32,688 posts)Hitler in the 1930s were the first to be sent to the Russian front.
Butterflylady
(3,544 posts)And authoritarian or a dictator takes over, guess what will happen to those who have guns? They will be confiscated. Bet these right wing nuts didn't think of that.
Javaman
(62,530 posts)Dan
(3,568 posts)He wants internment camps ..I will leave the rest to your imagination, as much as he hates.
hay rick
(7,624 posts)I'm not sure how much less one can do and still not recognize oneself as one who is throwing up their hands and letting idiots win- but I have a suggestion.
Stop being nice to the "nice" people in your life who are voting for authoritarians. They are false friends and family. They are hurting themselves and you. Tolerating this behavior and not calling it out is self-abuse. They may get mad. You may get mad. You should be mad. It's a start.
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)Working on campaigns, making phone calls, writing letters, protesting.
Now I'm too sick, literally, to do it anymore. A team of doctors are trying to decide what inner ear disease I have which causes daily episodes of vertigo so disabling that often I cannot stand up without falling, never mind walking or knocking on doors.
It's time for the rest of you to start doing your share. I've put in my time.
hay rick
(7,624 posts)I share your sentiment. I was a union activist until I retired and moved to Florida a dozen years ago. I got involved in political activism here and have put in many thousands of hours working on campaigns and get out the vote activities for the Democratic Party. I will turn 78 in July and lately have been spending time training people to replace me. I hope they stick with it. It's someone else's turn now.
Chainfire
(17,549 posts)We have history to lead us to that answer. Look at photos of Berlin in 1945; that is where they will take us.
As they wreck the ability of the nation to support itself, and see the collapse of the middle class, they would have to look for more and more victims to blame. "If we could only get rid of all of the ******, then we would be great again. When hateful and ignorant people rule, you can expect hateful and ignorant policies.
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)Would have no rights at all. The Nazis would strip their right to vote, to hold public office, or to be in any position of authority be it the public or private sector, or to be educated. They would make it illegal for any of them to read or have access to reading materials. The state would put them in "education" camps or even execute them for disobeying their masters--er, authority figures of any kind.
The Nazis would force all of those populations to do all manual labor in the country, no matter what their intellect or abilities. Women would not be allowed to hold any job other than maybe a domestic; they would not be allowed to earn more than the lowest paid man. The men, on the other hand, would "earn" a maximum "wage" that would not be enough to live on, and a penurious pension only if they could "prove" they didn't miss one day of work between entering the workforce at the age of 7 until the age of 75 or 80. Again the state would have the right to put them in "education" camps or execute them if they could not or would not work.
This is the Nazi idea of Utopia.