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Beachnutt

(7,324 posts)
Sun May 14, 2023, 07:34 AM May 2023

What if everybody threw their hands up and let the idiots win

If we just gave up and let them have a rethug majority congress and President what would happen to this country ?
No more Social Security as we know it, no more help for the disabled and the poor, longer work week with no unions, Higher prescription cost, higher taxes with no child tax credits, no more public schools, guns galore with more mass shootings, infrastucture collapse, lgbtq outlawed, abortion outlawed no more school lunch programs and food assistance, no minimum wage, climate change will run rampant with more fossil fuel drilling, clean energy programs stopped with more coal production, pollution rampant.
Add to the list.
This is why we must vote and win.

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What if everybody threw their hands up and let the idiots win (Original Post) Beachnutt May 2023 OP
More... FalloutShelter May 2023 #1
Yes! We must give up and let them win. Croney May 2023 #2
Any one who is well to do and can run away from it has not right to call for a revolution. Biophilic May 2023 #8
Great meme for this Beachnutt May 2023 #11
Yup!! Thanks. Biophilic May 2023 #14
+1 nt flying rabbit May 2023 #16
Well, it would definitely bring "consequences" that Backseat Driver May 2023 #25
"Susan Saranwrap"!! LOL I am definitely keeping that one nt yellowdogintexas May 2023 #26
The Iowa caucus is Feb. 5th gab13by13 May 2023 #3
The future of this country is in the crooked hands Beachnutt May 2023 #4
Heard that slaves were happy. cachukis May 2023 #5
From the 2017 Women's March to the E Jean Carroll verdict malaise May 2023 #6
Excellent, Beachnutt May 2023 #7
You're welcome malaise May 2023 #9
Return of slavery... 2naSalit May 2023 #10
This guy says it best Beachnutt May 2023 #15
Public education is a republican target The Jungle 1 May 2023 #12
And the prison system Beachnutt May 2023 #13
+1 appalachiablue May 2023 #23
When Republicans win, the idiots who vote for them lose. Martin Eden May 2023 #17
This should be a post in itself, Beachnutt May 2023 #18
"Chickens voting for Colonel Sanders" Martin Eden May 2023 #21
The German farmers that supported multigraincracker May 2023 #20
Well, if we do that....let them win.... Butterflylady May 2023 #19
... Javaman May 2023 #22
Trump has already said Dan May 2023 #24
Most people who read this post will not make a single partisan phone call or knock on a single door. hay rick May 2023 #27
I spent close to 40 years knocking on doors ExWhoDoesntCare May 2023 #30
Thank you for your activism. hay rick May 2023 #31
What would happen if the idiots take over. Chainfire May 2023 #28
Women, LGBT+, minorities and non-christians ExWhoDoesntCare May 2023 #29

Biophilic

(3,665 posts)
8. Any one who is well to do and can run away from it has not right to call for a revolution.
Sun May 14, 2023, 08:28 AM
May 2023

It will be us regular folk who get caught up in it and suffer. Just like if we give up and let the republicans take over. Wealthy people will hardly notice, but the rest of us certainly will.

Backseat Driver

(4,393 posts)
25. Well, it would definitely bring "consequences" that
Sun May 14, 2023, 10:08 AM
May 2023

far fewer Americans would actually enjoy at the top for very long--thank heaven for a few Constitutionally written term limits, unstated oh-so-flexible enforcement criteria, and a taint-proof co-equal branch without ethic standards, you know?

gab13by13

(21,359 posts)
3. The Iowa caucus is Feb. 5th
Sun May 14, 2023, 08:06 AM
May 2023

and Trump will be the nominee. All he needs is a few of us to throw our hands up. Looks to me like another GOTV to save our democracy. Will it be a fair election? Will the Supreme Court give the states absolute authority to run their elections? If the SC court makes that ruling (upcoming) they could "win" without our throwing up our hands.

Beachnutt

(7,324 posts)
4. The future of this country is in the crooked hands
Sun May 14, 2023, 08:13 AM
May 2023

of the supreme court then, correct ?
What can be done to stop this theft ?

malaise

(269,050 posts)
6. From the 2017 Women's March to the E Jean Carroll verdict
Sun May 14, 2023, 08:22 AM
May 2023

The scumbag is liable for Sexual Abuse - victories take time - the struggle never stops.
Pause and celebrate as we continue to organize and fight back.

malaise

(269,050 posts)
9. You're welcome
Sun May 14, 2023, 08:30 AM
May 2023

That verdict was the Mother's Day present we needed. A lot of women and the men who love us exhaled as we saw some serious financial consequences.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
12. Public education is a republican target
Sun May 14, 2023, 08:34 AM
May 2023

They want to privateer it to fix what is not broken. Just like they did for healthcare. Now look how great our healthcare is.
Still waiting for that republican healthcare plan.
Sarcasm

Martin Eden

(12,870 posts)
17. When Republicans win, the idiots who vote for them lose.
Sun May 14, 2023, 09:06 AM
May 2023

Idiots in this context are defined as the MAGA masses duped into believing lies and triggered by culture war rhetoric.

The plain fact of the matter is the corporate masters and the politicians who serve them don't give a damn about the idiots who vote for them. Their economic policies favor only the rich -- not those who need good paying jobs, affordable healthcare, quality education, and safety from gun violence.

The idiots in thrall to religious charlatans who preach the cult of Donald Trump gain absolutely nothing from abortion bans and breaking down the wall between church and state. They are already free to practice their religion as they choose. They may feel satisfaction from having their own narrow minded beliefs imposed on others, but all that really gains them is the enmity of their fellow citizens and a more bitterly divided America.

And that last bit, my friends, is the strategy at work here.

The greatest obstacle to more wealth and power concentrated in fewer hands are American citizens who recognize their common interests and understand how to use their vote to elect representatives who truly serve their interests.

The malefactors of great wealth need us to be at each other's throats, not demanding a fair share for the vital work we do in powering the economic engine which produces that wealth.

A great man once said a house divided against itself cannot stand.

That is just as true today as it was when Abraham Lincoln spoke those words.

Butterflylady

(3,544 posts)
19. Well, if we do that....let them win....
Sun May 14, 2023, 09:11 AM
May 2023

And authoritarian or a dictator takes over, guess what will happen to those who have guns? They will be confiscated. Bet these right wing nuts didn't think of that.

Dan

(3,568 posts)
24. Trump has already said
Sun May 14, 2023, 10:07 AM
May 2023

He wants internment camps…..I will leave the rest to your imagination, as much as he hates.

hay rick

(7,624 posts)
27. Most people who read this post will not make a single partisan phone call or knock on a single door.
Sun May 14, 2023, 10:21 AM
May 2023

I'm not sure how much less one can do and still not recognize oneself as one who is throwing up their hands and letting idiots win- but I have a suggestion.

Stop being nice to the "nice" people in your life who are voting for authoritarians. They are false friends and family. They are hurting themselves and you. Tolerating this behavior and not calling it out is self-abuse. They may get mad. You may get mad. You should be mad. It's a start.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
30. I spent close to 40 years knocking on doors
Sun May 14, 2023, 11:58 PM
May 2023

Working on campaigns, making phone calls, writing letters, protesting.

Now I'm too sick, literally, to do it anymore. A team of doctors are trying to decide what inner ear disease I have which causes daily episodes of vertigo so disabling that often I cannot stand up without falling, never mind walking or knocking on doors.

It's time for the rest of you to start doing your share. I've put in my time.

hay rick

(7,624 posts)
31. Thank you for your activism.
Mon May 15, 2023, 12:21 AM
May 2023

I share your sentiment. I was a union activist until I retired and moved to Florida a dozen years ago. I got involved in political activism here and have put in many thousands of hours working on campaigns and get out the vote activities for the Democratic Party. I will turn 78 in July and lately have been spending time training people to replace me. I hope they stick with it. It's someone else's turn now.

Chainfire

(17,549 posts)
28. What would happen if the idiots take over.
Sun May 14, 2023, 01:03 PM
May 2023

We have history to lead us to that answer. Look at photos of Berlin in 1945; that is where they will take us.

As they wreck the ability of the nation to support itself, and see the collapse of the middle class, they would have to look for more and more victims to blame. "If we could only get rid of all of the ******, then we would be great again. When hateful and ignorant people rule, you can expect hateful and ignorant policies.


 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
29. Women, LGBT+, minorities and non-christians
Sun May 14, 2023, 11:47 PM
May 2023

Would have no rights at all. The Nazis would strip their right to vote, to hold public office, or to be in any position of authority be it the public or private sector, or to be educated. They would make it illegal for any of them to read or have access to reading materials. The state would put them in "education" camps or even execute them for disobeying their masters--er, authority figures of any kind.

The Nazis would force all of those populations to do all manual labor in the country, no matter what their intellect or abilities. Women would not be allowed to hold any job other than maybe a domestic; they would not be allowed to earn more than the lowest paid man. The men, on the other hand, would "earn" a maximum "wage" that would not be enough to live on, and a penurious pension only if they could "prove" they didn't miss one day of work between entering the workforce at the age of 7 until the age of 75 or 80. Again the state would have the right to put them in "education" camps or execute them if they could not or would not work.

This is the Nazi idea of Utopia.

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