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CousinIT

(9,247 posts)
Sun May 14, 2023, 09:33 AM May 2023

People got mad at me for calling CNN the Conservative Nazi Network

But after the Trump misinfomercial they just aired, with the blonde (edit: brunette, not that it matters) bobblehead plopped up there with him to be the target of his verbal abuse as he insults a woman he raped and tells over 100 lies in an hour (because the bobblehead evidently hasn't enough self-respect to refuse to be a part of that), I'm still calling them the Conservative Nazi Network.

And I haven't watched that network in years and will not be doing so anytime soon.

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People got mad at me for calling CNN the Conservative Nazi Network (Original Post) CousinIT May 2023 OP
I'm stealing that. Meadowoak May 2023 #1
Even before they gave the maga rally they appointed an ultra fascist as CEO yaesu May 2023 #2
Any corporate owned media serves only $$ Artcatt May 2023 #16
Licht Is An Ultrafascist? ProfessorGAC May 2023 #23
Yes, there's such a thing as being bad at your job, wrong, having poor judgement, doing dumb things. betsuni May 2023 #34
I read this AM they are having a hour long program bashing San Francisco. walkingman May 2023 #3
Jon Stewart said it well... CousinIT May 2023 #4
Well said Rebl2 May 2023 #11
Just sent the link to my friend who doesn't understand. msfiddlestix May 2023 #25
Excellent .. TY For Jon Stewart on CNN Cha May 2023 #30
unfair and unballanced. AllaN01Bear May 2023 #5
Conservative Nazi Network? MarineCombatEngineer May 2023 #6
Lol. Well, maybe that's a tad too extreme for general consumption. Hortensis May 2023 #7
+1 betsuni May 2023 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author GuppyGal May 2023 #42
Only a few got mad. And some of them were socks of the same paid troll. Scrivener7 May 2023 #8
Didn't know that CousinIT May 2023 #10
Blow up your tv orthoclad May 2023 #9
Dang. I coined "Creeps Normalizing Nazis" the other day. usonian May 2023 #12
Yours is good, too. "Normalizing" is a great word. ancianita May 2023 #13
If the shoe fits, and it does pwb May 2023 #14
I have a bil who gets angry at me for calling fox a lying right wing propaganda site.... getagrip_already May 2023 #15
So what if they got mad? vlyons May 2023 #17
I have said the same thing, get lectures from others. There are still people who seem to Bev54 May 2023 #18
A neighbor of mine who is also a very good friend, music partner, very empathetic, compassionate.. msfiddlestix May 2023 #22
I had someone similar but not close, just an acquaintance and this was right after Cooper's lecture Bev54 May 2023 #24
thank you for sharing your experience I'm trying to wrap my head around it.... msfiddlestix May 2023 #27
This is why I always tell people not to trust the person ExWhoDoesntCare May 2023 #45
Yeppers, but most important is what they actualy DO. (or not do) msfiddlestix May 2023 #48
You go right ahead..there are cnn defenders here...not sure why. This DU person is right there with ya PortTack May 2023 #19
During Bush v Gore it was Communist News Network MagickMuffin May 2023 #20
I suggested in a previous post that CNN should no longer be cited as a credible source SledDriver May 2023 #21
Totally agree. n/t CousinIT May 2023 #26
I prefer it to twitter. BlackSkimmer May 2023 #29
+1 Maru Kitteh May 2023 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author GuppyGal May 2023 #41
If every source DU doesn't like was blocked, this would be a pretty lean discussion board. brooklynite May 2023 #49
"bobblehead blonde" (edit: brunette not that it matters." BlackSkimmer May 2023 #28
Far more stereotyping sarisataka May 2023 #33
And we here on DU criticize Trump's hair that is... CousinIT May 2023 #37
I do not ever recall a male reporter sarisataka May 2023 #38
It's not a take on the hair color ExWhoDoesntCare May 2023 #46
I'm curious if you ever describe male news figures by their hair color. Sky Jewels May 2023 #31
More likely I'd describe them by whether they had any hair or not. Funny no one complained when.. CousinIT May 2023 #36
That's different than reducing someone's identity to their hair. Sky Jewels May 2023 #40
The reference isn't to her hair as a woman ExWhoDoesntCare May 2023 #47
Yeah, I know the song. Sky Jewels May 2023 #50
Nazi? Not even. Fox would be MUCH closer to that appellation. Behind the Aegis May 2023 #32
I ain't mad at ya. Iggo May 2023 #39
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yaesu

(8,020 posts)
2. Even before they gave the maga rally they appointed an ultra fascist as CEO
Sun May 14, 2023, 09:40 AM
May 2023

and fired all the left leaning hosts, which weren't much to begin with so yeah, they are now competing with fox for the most disgusting anti American network in history.

ProfessorGAC

(65,068 posts)
23. Licht Is An Ultrafascist?
Sun May 14, 2023, 02:24 PM
May 2023

Working for Colbert all that time? Seems hard to believe.
I think he accepted a job he's not good enough to do, but I have never heard he's far right.
And, if you're confusing this with John Malone, who WAS the CEO of Discovery before the merger, that's misinformation, too.
Yeah, he's a RWNJ but he's a modest stockholder in Warner/Discovery & has no control over anything.
Do I think Licht has massively screwed up? Absolutely, yes.
I think that's incompetence, not ideology.

betsuni

(25,537 posts)
34. Yes, there's such a thing as being bad at your job, wrong, having poor judgement, doing dumb things.
Sun May 14, 2023, 04:17 PM
May 2023

Not everything's an elaborate organized conspiracy.

walkingman

(7,627 posts)
3. I read this AM they are having a hour long program bashing San Francisco.
Sun May 14, 2023, 10:00 AM
May 2023

That is the last straw for me.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. Lol. Well, maybe that's a tad too extreme for general consumption.
Sun May 14, 2023, 10:12 AM
May 2023

And, after all, you haven't watched it in years. Just maybe that has something to do with why your description's not getting approval from people who have.

Response to Hortensis (Reply #7)

orthoclad

(2,910 posts)
9. Blow up your tv
Sun May 14, 2023, 10:29 AM
May 2023

John Prine.
and other anti-tv songs.

It's a medium of mass hypnosis.
Read instead. Exercises the brain.

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
15. I have a bil who gets angry at me for calling fox a lying right wing propaganda site....
Sun May 14, 2023, 10:58 AM
May 2023

His anger doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Bev54

(10,053 posts)
18. I have said the same thing, get lectures from others. There are still people who seem to
Sun May 14, 2023, 11:41 AM
May 2023

accept being gaslighted by CNN.

msfiddlestix

(7,282 posts)
22. A neighbor of mine who is also a very good friend, music partner, very empathetic, compassionate..
Sun May 14, 2023, 02:10 PM
May 2023

soul, very liberal who is a big fan of CNN. I've rarely commented much on his viewing habits with that network, but after I read of changes in executives, I warned him to be mindful of changes reflecting right wing bias.

He was dismissive, and I didn't attempt to press the point until yesterday when the subject came up. He asked me if I had seen the "townhall" segment online. When I responded that I hadn't but I read all about it, and of course expressed my views on the matter, including a passionate plea for him to cut the cord with CNN now that it is quite clear they're giving tfg a free platform to hold his rally's for his campaign once again.

He strongly disagreed, in fact was upset when I disputed misinformation fed to him by CNN's janitor, Anderson Cooper's gas-lighting critics. He seems to believe that "town-hall" exposed tfg to some of his followers and actually changed some of their minds.

He wants so very much to believe that's true. When I pointed out that the entire world has been exposed to it all quite routinely, anyone who hasn't seen it before would have had to been suffering from a coma for the past 15 years.

CNN gave that racists psychopath a platform for his lies racists rants since Obama took office, CNN is just as culpable as Fox for enabling and breathing oxygen to all of what we have endured since then. For that they should be held to account by viewers but apparently there are too many who just can't quite see it.






Bev54

(10,053 posts)
24. I had someone similar but not close, just an acquaintance and this was right after Cooper's lecture
Sun May 14, 2023, 02:26 PM
May 2023

who thought it was a very thoughtful response. When I said it was gaslighting, he is trying to shift the fault to the viewers reaction. She came back the next day after seeing all the coverage that basically said the same, she was a bit distraught. She said she needs to really look at herself and why she was so easily willing to accept what he said (I think her trust in Cooper was part of it) and be gaslit when others could see through it. I get it, sometimes it is not easy to see it if you are trusting of the people doing it.

msfiddlestix

(7,282 posts)
27. thank you for sharing your experience I'm trying to wrap my head around it....
Sun May 14, 2023, 02:43 PM
May 2023

but I think you've zero'd in on the crux of the matter.

It's about the weird thing attached to trust, when one places trust in a person or a thing, it's very very hard to face up to any notion that trust was misplaced. That trust is based on a false premise or set of false assumptions.

I's painful to face when the veil is lifted. I think we all have experienced it with personal relationships, or our faith in institutions, leadership etc.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
45. This is why I always tell people not to trust the person
Mon May 15, 2023, 04:14 PM
May 2023

It's not who they are (or you think they are) that matters, it's not how they say things that matters.

The only thing that matters is what comes out of their mouths.

Big difference that too many people are too bloody stupid to comprehend.

msfiddlestix

(7,282 posts)
48. Yeppers, but most important is what they actualy DO. (or not do)
Mon May 15, 2023, 08:48 PM
May 2023

beyond the things they say, especially if it's stuff we want to hear.

PortTack

(32,773 posts)
19. You go right ahead..there are cnn defenders here...not sure why. This DU person is right there with ya
Sun May 14, 2023, 12:00 PM
May 2023

MagickMuffin

(15,943 posts)
20. During Bush v Gore it was Communist News Network
Sun May 14, 2023, 12:20 PM
May 2023



The creeps would hang outside the headquarters and shout Communist News Network.

And it seemed to work, CNN started leaning toward the darkness.


Perhaps a few good people with a megaphone could show up and bring the new term a whirl
Conservative Nazi Network.

It would be something to see how they react!


Response to SledDriver (Reply #21)

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
28. "bobblehead blonde" (edit: brunette not that it matters."
Sun May 14, 2023, 03:25 PM
May 2023

Tell me you're a male without telling me you're a male.

And if you haven't watched in years, how in the hell can you judge it?

sarisataka

(18,663 posts)
33. Far more stereotyping
Sun May 14, 2023, 04:06 PM
May 2023

And misogyny than actual criticism of the network. I wound how a male journalist would have been described.

Of course if they haven't watched it in years I suppose it would be hard to say what is actually wrong with the network.

CousinIT

(9,247 posts)
37. And we here on DU criticize Trump's hair that is...
Sun May 14, 2023, 04:43 PM
May 2023

....what?



So strange what people choose to focus on in a post.

I haven't watched CNN in years because they were Fascist and now they're worse. That was my point.

But DO continue focusing on ... HAIR. Next time anyone on DU mentions Trump's hair in the negative or at all, I expect the same complaints......

sarisataka

(18,663 posts)
38. I do not ever recall a male reporter
Sun May 14, 2023, 04:53 PM
May 2023

Referred to as a bobblehead.

OTH is there any common negative stereotype of men with blonde hair?

ETA> I do not believe references to his hair involve any stereotype, simply that it is bad.

I have criticized the use of fat shaming and homophobic remarks used to insult him.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
46. It's not a take on the hair color
Mon May 15, 2023, 04:18 PM
May 2023

But a riff off the Don Henley song, "Dirty Laundry."

He has a line in it about the "bubble-headed bleach blonde comes on at five/she can tell you 'bout the plane crash with a gleam in her eye."

Most of the time, that's what people are hearkening back to when they make the remark.

CousinIT

(9,247 posts)
36. More likely I'd describe them by whether they had any hair or not. Funny no one complained when..
Sun May 14, 2023, 04:40 PM
May 2023

...people talk about Trump's hair here. Hmph.

Sky Jewels

(7,111 posts)
40. That's different than reducing someone's identity to their hair.
Sun May 14, 2023, 05:22 PM
May 2023

The equivalent would be saying “and then the bald did XY and Z…”

It’s done to women all the time, but not to men. I will bet that you never, ever refer to a male reporter/news reader as “the brunette” or “the redhead.”

CNN now sucks and Caitlin Collins is a huge disappointment for enabling their pro-fascist leanings, but she’s had a pretty substantial career and she’s more than just hair.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
47. The reference isn't to her hair as a woman
Mon May 15, 2023, 04:25 PM
May 2023

It's to the Don Henley song, "Dirty Laundry."

The one that has the line about the bubble-headed bleach blonde.

You do know the song...right?

Sky Jewels

(7,111 posts)
50. Yeah, I know the song.
Mon May 15, 2023, 08:55 PM
May 2023

It doesn't excuse the reduction of someone to their hair color, which is very, very common with women and almost unheard of with men. It's unfortunate that Kaitlin Collins seems to be willing to carry water for the right, but she is far from a bobblehead. I used to be impressed with her, back when she used to question Trump and got a lot of shit dished in her direction.

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