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highplainsdem

(49,004 posts)
Sun May 14, 2023, 02:38 PM May 2023

Journalist David Roth FTW - Best description of Twitter and Musk EVER (amazing blog post)

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IMO. And I've read a lot of those descriptions over the years.

It's on his blog, so you don't have to look at a tweet. But I found it thanks to Twitter, and a Tom Nichols retweet of a Nicholas Grossman tweet leading me to another of Grossman's tweets, about this gem - which should be read in its entirety:

https://defector.com/burning-down-the-house

I'll post an excerpt, but it would be best for you to just click on the link and read all of it, instead of reading any of the excerpt first.

Burning Down The House

10:46 AM EDT on May 14, 2023


Because Twitter is so big and open-ended, and because it is a product of the grandiose and impatient and deliriously shallow world of Silicon Valley, the ways in which it has been talked about by the people who talk about it most have mostly been ridiculous. For all the site has been—sometimes also a place where important things happen, more often a place to watch less-important things happen alongside if not truly with other people, always a a wall on which to write graffiti and a periscope that would show you a stranger being weird—it has never been what they said it was. The overheated register in which Silicon Valley types have tended to talk about Twitter—as The Global Town Square, a horizonless agora in which all of humanity can meet to uh engage in free speech together or whatever—is how they always talk about whatever they are selling, right before they move on to selling something else. For better and worse, these people like Twitter—many people do—but they can't say why, or call it what it is. And so it has to bring people together, for the future's sake.

-snip-

This is why Elon Musk was always the worst possible person to own Twitter. Musk has long been one of the thirstiest, corniest, most tiresome posters on the site, which is saying quite a bit. More worryingly, though, Musk has used the site—relentlessly, exhaustingly, constantly—in a way that suggested he had no idea what it did, or how people actually used it, or even why they might. His posts were joke-shaped and troll-scented without ever containing humor or even identifiable trolling; his mentions were filled with supplicants and hangers-on, all talking over each other to promote their various business gambits and themselves, to the extent that any identifiable distinction existed. Musk's account increasingly alternated between fervid re-phrasings of reactionary cable news bugaboos—they're trying to make the Minions woke or whatever— and concerned-seeming replies to posts about the same dumb shit.

-snip-

It makes sense that these users would be drawn to Musk, even to the point of posting like him, because he resembles them in his sour incuriosity, and is aspirational in his impunity and wealth. As it happens, that type of rich authoritarian—distractible, idly vicious, relatable in his proud pissy cretinousness—already has an avatar in American politics. Musk sought out this population of blowhards and temporarily embarrassed grand inquisitors and armchair genocidaires, and they invariably found him, but this is a tough crowd. Where Musk has struggled to keep that constituency happy, it reflects less on his seemingly sincere receptiveness to their hair-trigger credulity, bigotry, and vengefulness and more on the fact that these people are fundamentally unappeasable, and fundamentally opposed to being appeased.

This worldview, as expressed through a sprawling cast of independent operators, is built around not just incubating but selling a very specific type of grievance. Each of those operators is the protagonist of their own dim hero's journey; so is Musk. But there's no community or coalition to find, because the selfishness that defines this politics is inherently so unstable. There are just too many enemies in it for the world to make sense as anything but a concentric field of threats. Musk held some appeal in this context as a potential annihilating godhead, but he was always going to disappoint—not because he is clumsy, or insufficiently brutal, but because this politics is grounded in that disappointment.

-snip-


Much more at the link, all of it very readable, and scathing.

Roth's tweet about this:


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Journalist David Roth FTW - Best description of Twitter and Musk EVER (amazing blog post) (Original Post) highplainsdem May 2023 OP
Exquisite writing - thanks for posting! jmbar2 May 2023 #1
You're welcome! I thought this was jaw-droppingly perceptive and well-written. highplainsdem May 2023 #2
I'm sorry. I found the text on defector.com to be dense and hard to read. erronis May 2023 #3
He advances the art of gentle invective, usually best performed by Scots and Irish writers jmbar2 May 2023 #5
Ironic orthoclad May 2023 #4
So people here who still use Twitter can reply, like or retweet. highplainsdem May 2023 #8
Be nice to copy orthoclad May 2023 #11
It was just a single sentence with a link to that blog post: highplainsdem May 2023 #12
Thank you, orthoclad May 2023 #13
"joke-shaped and troll-scented" oh this is beautiful Grokenstein May 2023 #6
You're welcome! I loved that line, too. highplainsdem May 2023 #10
Lots of good stuff... calimary May 2023 #7
Yes. He obviously means Trump. highplainsdem May 2023 #9

jmbar2

(4,890 posts)
1. Exquisite writing - thanks for posting!
Sun May 14, 2023, 03:00 PM
May 2023
This worldview, as expressed through a sprawling cast of independent operators, is built around not just incubating but selling a very specific type of grievance. Each of those operators is the protagonist of their own dim hero's journey; so is Musk. But there's no community or coalition to find, because the selfishness that defines this politics is inherently so unstable. There are just too many enemies in it for the world to make sense as anything but a concentric field of threats.

highplainsdem

(49,004 posts)
2. You're welcome! I thought this was jaw-droppingly perceptive and well-written.
Sun May 14, 2023, 03:33 PM
May 2023

Wanted to share it here asap.

erronis

(15,303 posts)
3. I'm sorry. I found the text on defector.com to be dense and hard to read.
Sun May 14, 2023, 04:01 PM
May 2023

The points may be well made but my older brain doesn't like to see 20 lines of text in a single paragraph without some room for breathing. Especially about someone who I don't like to read about anyway.

But I appreciate you thinking of us!!!

jmbar2

(4,890 posts)
5. He advances the art of gentle invective, usually best performed by Scots and Irish writers
Sun May 14, 2023, 04:12 PM
May 2023

News and/or opinion writing is usually much more terse and direct. It is his creativity in digging deeper that I really appreciated.

highplainsdem

(49,004 posts)
12. It was just a single sentence with a link to that blog post:
Sun May 14, 2023, 09:57 PM
May 2023
I wrote about how it's going on here, and tried to pin down whatever Twitter Blue Mindset is.

orthoclad

(2,910 posts)
13. Thank you,
Sun May 14, 2023, 10:07 PM
May 2023

much better than seeing blank space.

A lot of people here see only blank space in place of the musk content, with the words "Link to tweet".

Roughly half the posts on DU are blank like that, unless people take the step of copying the content into their post.

calimary

(81,322 posts)
7. Lots of good stuff...
Sun May 14, 2023, 06:03 PM
May 2023

like this:
“It makes sense that these users would be drawn to Musk, even to the point of posting like him, because he resembles them in his sour incuriosity, and is aspirational in his impunity and wealth. As it happens, that type of rich authoritarian—distractible, idly vicious, relatable in his proud pissy cretinousness—already has an avatar in American politics.”

Reminds me of somebody. Somebody orange.

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