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In It to Win It

(8,254 posts)
Sun May 21, 2023, 09:35 PM May 2023

On June 8th, a New York court will hear a case that could pave the way for a new Democratic gerryman

Brent Peabody 🇺🇸🇺🇦
@brent_peabody

On June 8th, a New York court will hear a case that could pave the way for a new Democratic gerrymander

Dems could easily nuke *5* GOP seats (including George Santos')

Coincidentally, to flip the House Dems need just... 5 seats



Fwiw, I'm not a fan of gerrymandering

But until there's a national law against it, blue states can't afford to unilaterally disarm while red states gerrymander Dems into oblivion

So... nuke 'em



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On June 8th, a New York court will hear a case that could pave the way for a new Democratic gerryman (Original Post) In It to Win It May 2023 OP
Payback's a bitch, fuckos Blue Owl May 2023 #1
THIS RIGHT HERE 👆👆👆 BumRushDaShow May 2023 #2
Highly doubtful... brooklynite May 2023 #3
Waste of time Polybius May 2023 #4
Guess there's no chance for NY-21. *sigh* Rhiannon12866 May 2023 #5
Or NY 23, either. wnylib May 2023 #7
I know. We're considered a solidly "blue" state, but that's due to the more populated areas downstate Rhiannon12866 May 2023 #8
BTW, I was checking on covid infection rates in western NY today. wnylib May 2023 #9
Oh, my goodness, don't get me started. This is a huge tourist area, Lake George is just up the road Rhiannon12866 May 2023 #11
The Supreme Court has no problems with Gerrymandering Farmer-Rick May 2023 #6
It's NY's highest state court that may be road block on this one In It to Win It May 2023 #10
And for good reason Polybius May 2023 #12
Wish my state's Supreme Court was as active In It to Win It May 2023 #13
Exactly, Farmer-Rick May 2023 #15
That doesn't mean they'll require it FBaggins May 2023 #14

brooklynite

(94,595 posts)
3. Highly doubtful...
Sun May 21, 2023, 10:15 PM
May 2023

The flaw is that the redistricting law that Cuomo got passed said "no gerrymandering". Until the Legislature passes an amendment, the best that will be possible is absolutely non-partisan district lines.

wnylib

(21,486 posts)
7. Or NY 23, either.
Mon May 22, 2023, 12:25 AM
May 2023

Did you see what western NY looks like on that map? Solid red except for Rochester and Buffalo. People outside of NY have no idea how red the state is outside of the main cities.

Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
8. I know. We're considered a solidly "blue" state, but that's due to the more populated areas downstate
Mon May 22, 2023, 12:48 AM
May 2023

The frustrating thing is, NY-21 was represented by a moderate Democrat until 2015 when he retired. Before that we had been included in NY-20, represented by Democrats Kirsten Gillibrand and then Scott Murphy, and I worked on both Rep. Murphy's campaigns, he was actually local and I liked him a lot. *sigh*

wnylib

(21,486 posts)
9. BTW, I was checking on covid infection rates in western NY today.
Mon May 22, 2023, 12:56 AM
May 2023

The figures are based on waste water testing. My area is rated moderate for infection and mild for hospitalization. I checked it because I am getting negative feedback for still wearing a mask indoors in public.

I expect that the rate will go up in the week after Memorial Day and again after July 4th. Always does after holidays.

I noticed some higher hospitalization rates over your way. Downstate looked good, though.

Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
11. Oh, my goodness, don't get me started. This is a huge tourist area, Lake George is just up the road
Mon May 22, 2023, 01:06 AM
May 2023

Even last year the sidewalks were packed, as usual - and I drove through there today and it's starting. They come from everywhere, today I followed a car from Tennessee and earlier this week I saw Indiana and Kentucky. And the "snowbirds" are returning from Florida. Not to mention, we have our share of anti-vaxxers locally.

In It to Win It

(8,254 posts)
13. Wish my state's Supreme Court was as active
Mon May 22, 2023, 03:47 AM
May 2023

My state banned gerrymandering as well… and no one really cared to enforce that ban, even our state Supreme Court.

Farmer-Rick

(10,185 posts)
15. Exactly,
Mon May 22, 2023, 10:07 AM
May 2023

You can put in all the laws you want, if no one upholds them, they mean nothing.

That's why Trump stole classified material and is stomping around free, and not in jail like anyone else would be. That's why Trump sold presidential pardons.

That's why anti-trust laws mean nothing. That's why W was president. That's why Putin controls our politics. That's why women are forced to birth unwanted infants if they are poor and live in a Republican state.

It's all about enforcement.

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
14. That doesn't mean they'll require it
Mon May 22, 2023, 05:46 AM
May 2023

It’s one thing to allow gerrymandering in the face of a lower court that tried to forbid it even though state law did not… it’s another thing entirely to require gerrymandering that state law expressly forbids.

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