Alec Baldwin is going to be in a Hollywood movie (just great,) about the Kent State shooting.

[Archae]

Back in 1970.

I have no doubt the movie's writers, producers and directors will take "artistic license" to flat out lie about the incident there, like Oliver Stone did making up so much bullshit about John F. Kennedy's assasination.

Alec Baldwin to star in film about Kent State shootings in 1970

Baldwin, though, has booked another film circulating the Cannes market. The actor is to join the cast of “Kent State,” a dramatization of the 1970 killing of four students by the National Guard protesting the Vietnam War on the Ohio college campus. In the film, written and to be directed by Karen Slade, Baldwin is to play Robert I. White, Kent State’s then president.

https://www.wbay.com/2023/05/21/alec-baldwin-star-film-about-kent-state-shootings-1970/

[JI7]

1. What do you think they are going to make up which is bs ?

[hlthe2b]

2. I do not believe for a minute that Baldwin would star in this project if whitewashes what happened.

I don't even know why you would think so. It goes against his entire lifetime of progressive activism and he obviously lived through the period. A bit like Neil Young coming out tomorrow and distancing himself from one of his greatest musical works, "Ohio." Not going to happen.

[GoCubsGo]

4. Perhaps the OP is confusing him with his brother, Stephen?

Who is a RWNJ.

[Kaleva]

3. Thought he'd play one of the Guardsmen.

[obamanut2012]

6. Why? Alec Baldwin is a Democrat

[Kaleva]

40. He's also an idiot with a gun

[Mosby]

44. See post 43.

The gun trigger was modified by someone.

[wnylib]

26. He's too old to play one of the Guardsmen

who were mostly the same age as the students who were shot.

[RandiFan1290]

5. Awww, bless your heart. nt

[obamanut2012]

7. Alec Baldwin is going to be in a Hollywood movie (Great!) about the Kent State shooting.

He will be terrific, can't wait!

[Wingus Dingus]

8. Is there some reason why Alec Baldwin shouldn't be in the movie?

Am I missing something?

[Archae]

10. It isn't that Alec Baldwin is in this movie.

It's the fact that Hollywood has a history of putting out bullshit "based on a true story."

Birth Of A Nation.

The Ten Commandments.

The Liz Taylor Cleopatra movie.

JFK.

Richard Jewell.

Netflix Cleopatra show.

[Wingus Dingus]

11. Oh, OK. I get ya.

[themaguffin]

16. Movies inherently are going to be about emotion, not history. That, you cherry picked some

examples out of countless historical movies.

I get that they might mess this up, but you're making it sound like it's going to be written by Pat Buchanan.

[Archae]

21. Not just right-wingers.

Would you trust the accuracy of a movie written by someone who belonged to the US Communist party, about Stalin or Lenin?

I've also noticed "documentaries" that are pure bullshit.

Like "2,000 Mules" or "Bowling For Columbine."

[wnylib]

28. What do you think that Moore got wrong

about gun culture in the US?

[Archae]

29. It's already been shown how much "Columbine" got wrong.

I'm not going to go searching again for it.

[wnylib]

31. OK. Don't back up your statements if you don't want to.

But it makes them less credible.

[Demsrule86]

35. I would think they would be more informed and if they told the truth...they would have

an accurate portrayal and perhaps more insight.

[Archae]

9. I don't trust Hollywood to get it correct.

Because they are notrious for simply LYING.

Most recent example, the Cleopatra show on Netflix.

She wasn't black, she was Greek!

So what will Hollywood do to the Kent State shooting?

Ignore the RIOT there before the shooting?
Find the biggest ugliest guys they can to play orcs in the National Guard?

Who knows.

[Hortensis]

17. Fwiw, "Hollywood" isn't making this movie, any more than

"Democrats" posted your OP. Maybe those who are will surprise you, but for now my response is also along the lines of "so what"?

If you've been looking to movies for truth,even fine movies fall short, often dreadfully, of the ability to convey the truth and understanding you care about that good-quality written accounts have. And there are typically several to many worthwhile books to one very limited movie.

To my way of thinking, successful movies make people want to learn more about it. But that starts with the people their producers hope to draw.

[Archae]

22. I use the term "Hollywood" to name basically the movie industry as a whole.

[Hortensis]

23. :) I know! Demonizing whole groups and then ascribing

claimed group horribleness to all their individuals is as dishonest and flawed in reasoning as you assumed this individual film will be.

[Mosby]

27. A lot of people do that with cops.

Surely you've seen that here.

[Hortensis]

39. Oh, yes! Any group targeted en mass for blanket hostility,

denying that individuals might be different. The definition of bigotry. When the target's a race, bigotry's called racism. But all from the same well.

Of course, there are some who wrongly equate "Hollywood" and its supposed crimes with Jews and Jews as their own race (Nazi crap), and any commonality which bigotry created with them would be especially unfortunate.

[niyad]

33. What riot before the murders of four unarmed civilians?

[former9thward]

46. The three days and nights before the shootings there was trouble in the city by protesting students.

Police shot tear gas and businesses had windows broken, etc. The Mayor declared a state of emergency and asked the governor for the national guard. The national guard went on campus the next day and the rest is history.

[themaguffin]

12. I don't get your take at all.

[obnoxiousdrunk]

15. It is confusing .

[Demsrule86]

13. Your post makes no sense. So what?

I fail to see how you arrived at your conclusion.

[Initech]

18. I'm guessing because of the whole Rust debacle?

[Demsrule86]

34. I never blamed Alec Baldwin for that...it was politically motivated... He didn't load the gun.

[Initech]

36. Oh it was definitely a political hit job for sure!

Fuck MAGA conspiracy theorists!

[Paladin]

14. A whole movie, devoted to the shooting deaths of 4 individuals?

Nowadays, we exceed that many shooting deaths, multiple times every week. The Kent State shootings are probably worthy of a movie, because back in 1970, the National Guard gunning down 4 students who were protesting the Viet Nam War was a big deal. (It was in fact a big and tragic deal; I remember it well.) But things sure have changed in this country.

[wnylib]

30. I remember it, too. The 4 dead students were not protesting.

They were just going about their business on campus.

[Paladin]

38. I recall it otherwise, for at least some of those students.

But I wouldn't swear to it after all these years. Whatever they were doing, they sure as hell didn't deserve to get shot for it.

[wnylib]

50. Among the dead, 2 were observers and 2 were protesters.

[former9thward]

47. Only one of the students, Sandy Scheuer, was walking to class.

The other three were part of the protest to one degree or another.

[wnylib]

49. I just checked Wikipedia and Britannica.

Both if them say that 2 of the dead students were just bystanders, not part of the protest. They were Scheuer and Schroeder. The other two, Krause and Miller were among the protesters.

All of them were unarmed and far enough away to not be a threat.

[Chakaconcarne]

19. Maybe we just wait until it comes out and critique it then?

Just a thought.

[brooklynite]

20. "I have no doubt"

Everyone is entitled to their opinions not backed by actual facts.

[SYFROYH]

24. Don't give Alec a gun, for Christ's sake.

[obamanut2012]

41. Why?

[SYFROYH]

42. The Rust shoting incident.

https://deadline.com/2023/04/alec-baldwin-charges-dropped-rust-shooting-halyna-hutchins-1235329568/

UPDATED with special prosecutor statement after PREVIOUS EXCLUSIVE: Despite a heady day of news about special prosecutors in New Mexico planning to drop criminal charges against Alec Baldwin for his role in the shooting death of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the set of Rust in 2021, the actor and producer may still face charges.

The special prosecutors, Kari Morrissey and Jason Lewis, released a statement late Thursday regarding the decision to drop his charges, saying they may be refiled after “further investigation.”

“Over the last few days and in preparation for the May 3, 2023, preliminary hearing, new facts were revealed that demand further investigation and forensic analysis in the case against Alexander “Alec” Rae Baldwin, III. Consequently, we cannot proceed under the current time constraints and on the facts and evidence turned over by law enforcement in its existing form. We therefore will be dismissing the involuntary manslaughter charges against Mr. Baldwin to conduct further investigation. This decision does not absolve Mr. Baldwin of criminal culpability and charges may be refiled. Our follow-up investigation will remain active and on-going.”

Despite reports earlier in the day that former Rust armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed would also see her charges dropped, her status has not changed. “Charges against Hannah Gutierrez-Reed remain unchanged,” the prosecutors said tonight.

[Mosby]

43. You know what's interesting

Is that people are admitting the gun in question was modified by filing down parts of the trigger. It's being sent to the FBI now for further analysis. Apparently the gun could go off by itself, despite what people (even here) said about Baldwin and his lack of training.

Eta -

Gun that killed Halyna Hutchins on ‘Rust’ set may have been modified

New Mexico prosecutors are investigating whether the gun Alec Baldwin was handling when it went off and killed “Rust” cinematographer Halyna Hutchins might have been intentionally modified.

“The modification appears to be related to the notches on the internal portion of the hammer for full cock, half cock and quarter cock positions,” prosecutors wrote in court documents filed this week, which asked the judge to authorize transferring the .45 Long Colt revolver, ammunition and other evidence collected from the film set to a ballistics expert for forensic testing. “It appears that these notches may have been partially removed or ground down so that they are less prominent.”

The development comes a month after prosecutors dropped the criminal case against Baldwin in Hutchins’s October 2021 death. Citing unnamed sources, the Los Angeles Times reported at the time that prosecutors had recently learned about possible modifications to the gun.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2023/05/18/rust-shooting-gun-modified/

[SYFROYH]

45. Which is a good example of why you don't point guns at people

Remember Alec is also on record that he was thumbing the hammer when it went off.

The biggest person responsible for the shooting is the armorer, based on available information, but Alec is not off the hook yet...and maybe shouldn't be.

[Mosby]

25. These Are Some of the Most Historically Inaccurate Movies Ever Made

https://movieweb.com/historically-inaccurate-movies/#pearl-harbor

Hollywood shouldn't make "docudramas" at all imo.

[maxsolomon]

32. Could be great, could be terrible.

I've seen highly fictionalized treatments of true stories that are deeply moving.

Baldwin is a meat puppet. What matters is who's making and writing it. Maybe slow your knee-jerking until you learn who the director & writer are.

[emulatorloo]

37. It hasn't happened yet, so maybe wait until it does. Ir may be horrible, or it may be really good.

Director sounds interesting. It is definitely a story that needs to be told.

[Archae]

48. I hope you're right.