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BlueWaveNeverEnd

(7,962 posts)
Mon May 22, 2023, 01:50 AM May 2023

Ill. lawmaker: All-gender bathrooms will 'cause violence from dads like me'

A bill that would allow Illinois businesses to build bathrooms that are open to all genders moved closer to passing last week. Still, a comment by a Republican state senator during debates Thursday is being condemned by politicians and activist groups.

On the Senate floor that day, state Sen. Neil Anderson claimed that mixed-gender, multiple-occupancy restrooms would inspire physical altercations, saying that he himself could be driven to violence if “a guy” walked into the same bathroom as his 10-year-old daughter.

“I’m telling you right now, if a guy walks in there, I’m going to beat the living piss out of him,” Anderson said as his supporters cheered. “So this is going to cause violence, and it’s going to cause violence from dads like me.”

Later in the meeting, Sen. Mike Simmons (D), Illinois’s first openly gay state senator, said that Anderson’s comments were so offensive they should be stricken from the record.

“I wouldn’t want a single person in the state to read that record,” Simmons said, “and think that anybody here would come after them if they would do something so mundane as to use the bathroom, a simple call of nature.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ill-lawmaker-all-gender-bathrooms-will-cause-violence-from-dads-like-me/ar-AA1bv334

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Ill. lawmaker: All-gender bathrooms will 'cause violence from dads like me' (Original Post) BlueWaveNeverEnd May 2023 OP
Solution: fewer communal bathrooms MutantAndProud May 2023 #1
Exactly. Mr.Bill May 2023 #2
businesses have taken the male/female individual restrooms and made them both BlueWaveNeverEnd May 2023 #4
Yes, that's what I'm seeing in California. Mr.Bill May 2023 #5
agree. rows of individual bathrooms like they have at the beach. Locking door unit BlueWaveNeverEnd May 2023 #3
Absolutely true. This father has a point honestly jimfields33 May 2023 #6
What? Maru Kitteh May 2023 #8
Uh... ExciteBike66 May 2023 #14
They are in stalls Bettie May 2023 #24
Wrong wrong wrong. And please don't ENDORSE VIOLENCE the way you did Bernardo de La Paz May 2023 #25
dafuq obamanut2012 May 2023 #27
I guess nobody's been to a hospital in the past decade, where all bathrooms are neutral. TheBlackAdder May 2023 #7
This PoS should be thrown out of the IL state Senate. roamer65 May 2023 #9
So he is preemptively threatening queer people. Behind the Aegis May 2023 #10
Isn't it all men? Renew Deal May 2023 #20
Seems more concerned with boosting his tough-guy cred than his daughter. Grokenstein May 2023 #11
Two bathrooms side by side, idiot, both lock Captain Zero May 2023 #12
Totally unnecessary show put on by Mr. Tough Guy to draw votes from ignorant GoodRaisin May 2023 #13
Violence from "dads like him"... AKA drooling imbeciles Buns_of_Fire May 2023 #15
If you are violent it's on you nobody makes you do it. Of course he's talking about beating up Walleye May 2023 #16
Common overseas. As are communal sinks being outside Phoenix61 May 2023 #17
Hubby heasitated at a non-gendered bathroom in Ireland 9 years ago Maeve May 2023 #21
Love it when cis men tell on themselves. WhiskeyGrinder May 2023 #18
Wouldn't this be better for him and his kid? Renew Deal May 2023 #19
So, if a butch looking Chemo survivor or just a masculine looking woman walks in... haele May 2023 #22
Repbs: The party of senseless violence. n/t Liberal In Texas May 2023 #23
Tell me you never raised your kids without telling Johonny May 2023 #26

MutantAndProud

(742 posts)
1. Solution: fewer communal bathrooms
Mon May 22, 2023, 01:53 AM
May 2023

More individualized ones. No ‘walking in’ and looking where you don’t need to look.

Mr.Bill

(24,301 posts)
2. Exactly.
Mon May 22, 2023, 02:01 AM
May 2023

I see more and more of these in businesses and no problems.

And when you think about it, we all have single use multi-gender bathrooms in our own homes, don't we? Even State Senator Simmons does, I'm sure.

Mr.Bill

(24,301 posts)
5. Yes, that's what I'm seeing in California.
Mon May 22, 2023, 02:05 AM
May 2023

And we did it without state legislators threatening anyone with violence.

BlueWaveNeverEnd

(7,962 posts)
3. agree. rows of individual bathrooms like they have at the beach. Locking door unit
Mon May 22, 2023, 02:02 AM
May 2023

containing sink and toilet. I'm sure architects are rethinking restrooms at this moment.

jimfields33

(15,822 posts)
6. Absolutely true. This father has a point honestly
Mon May 22, 2023, 02:23 AM
May 2023

Can you imagine a grown man going to the bathroom next to a ten year old girl? These politicians don’t think at all. Individual bathrooms period.

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)
8. What?
Mon May 22, 2023, 02:48 AM
May 2023

No really. He’s talking about beating the piss out of someone for the crime of needing the toilet.

On my planet the bathroom stalls are not made of transparent materials so I’m not sure why the grown man emptying his bladder is an issue.


ExciteBike66

(2,358 posts)
14. Uh...
Mon May 22, 2023, 05:39 AM
May 2023

Uh, as it stands that grown man can currently be in the same bathroom as my 9 year old boy. Should I beat him up for that as well?

Bettie

(16,110 posts)
24. They are in stalls
Mon May 22, 2023, 09:17 AM
May 2023

so, why is it a giant problem? If the parent felt uncomfortable about it, they could go in and stand by the stall door to be sure that...what? The person in the next stall didn't pee too loudly?

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,005 posts)
25. Wrong wrong wrong. And please don't ENDORSE VIOLENCE the way you did
Mon May 22, 2023, 09:22 AM
May 2023

In Florida, this trans man would be forced to use women's restrooms, because of original birth certificate.

Just say NO to Extra-judicial Violence.
Just say NO to vigilantes.

Get clued in to the very real threats against good people. Please do not promulgate them!

Are you going to be the first to beat him up? Since you say that Anderson's threat of violence "has a point honestly", whereby you endorse the violence.

Shaking my head.



Renew Deal

(81,861 posts)
20. Isn't it all men?
Mon May 22, 2023, 08:45 AM
May 2023

He has no idea who is going to walk through the door. He’s just going to start punching.

Grokenstein

(5,725 posts)
11. Seems more concerned with boosting his tough-guy cred than his daughter.
Mon May 22, 2023, 03:27 AM
May 2023

These days you're not a real rightwanker until you've threatened someone.

GoodRaisin

(8,924 posts)
13. Totally unnecessary show put on by Mr. Tough Guy to draw votes from ignorant
Mon May 22, 2023, 04:52 AM
May 2023

hate filled rightwing assholes.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,181 posts)
15. Violence from "dads like him"... AKA drooling imbeciles
Mon May 22, 2023, 06:19 AM
May 2023

with anger-management issues and a pathological need to show what manly-men they are at every opportunity. You know... morons.

Walleye

(31,028 posts)
16. If you are violent it's on you nobody makes you do it. Of course he's talking about beating up
Mon May 22, 2023, 07:36 AM
May 2023

Weak or more vulnerable people. He’s not gonna confront somebody his size you can bet on that. It’s one thing for some guy in a bar to be shouting this nonsense, but this is in the state house. Good God

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
17. Common overseas. As are communal sinks being outside
Mon May 22, 2023, 08:02 AM
May 2023

of the toilet area. Personally, I think more people wish their hands because everyone can see them.

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
21. Hubby heasitated at a non-gendered bathroom in Ireland 9 years ago
Mon May 22, 2023, 08:46 AM
May 2023

Got pushed out of the way by a man who seemed disgusted at the tourist acting all tourist-y.

Renew Deal

(81,861 posts)
19. Wouldn't this be better for him and his kid?
Mon May 22, 2023, 08:44 AM
May 2023

Because now the girl has to either go to the men’s room with him or into the women’s room by herself. Now he can stay with her without it being too awkward.

haele

(12,660 posts)
22. So, if a butch looking Chemo survivor or just a masculine looking woman walks in...
Mon May 22, 2023, 09:01 AM
May 2023

...to the bathroom of her birth gender, he's going to beat the shit out of her, too?
There are cis-women with masculine features, who may be unusually tall, or may have alopecia or some other condition. Of course, there are also intersex, hermaphroditic, and more petite persons in the middle of gender transition where you just can't tell.
So he's easily going to mistake somewhere near 2,% of the population who can use "a woman's restroom" - including his acceptable "biologically born females" and assault them like the tough guy he thinks he is.

Why does he think he has to protect his daughter? Does he also closely chaperone her to sports, church, or school where it's far more likely there could be a man who can possibly do things to her in private?

Haele

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
26. Tell me you never raised your kids without telling
Mon May 22, 2023, 09:23 AM
May 2023

me you never spent a day raising your kids. Literally every kids place these days has family rooms. They're common and already exist. The thing that he thinks will cause violence exists without incident because normal people think "shit isn't great there's this family room to bring my 4 year daughter into instead of the men's room."

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