Biden Aides Think He Can Flip Florida

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Biden Aides Think He Can Flip Florida

May 22, 2023 at 6:44 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 94 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2023/05/22/biden-aides-think-he-can-flip-florida/

"SNIP..........

CNN: “Biden advisers believe they can hold up what the GOP governor calls his ‘Florida blueprint’ as a warning to the country about what would happen if DeSantis or any other Republican wins the White House in 2024 – a human embodiment, essentially, of Biden’s argument that “MAGA extremism” goes beyond Donald Trump.”

“And along the way, they believe the Florida governor’s record may give them a chance at the state’s 30 electoral votes.”

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[Thomas Hurt]

1. Eh maybe, are there enough sane GOP, independents in FL that are pissed off about....

what Little Boots is doing....

[Lovie777]

2. I think he can too..................

but Florida under DeSatan equals to total corruption, stealing/cheating, gerrymandering galore. DeSatan would without a doubt thru his troll legislators pass laws to make sure Democrats don't win.

[LonePirate]

3. This is not going to happen. We cannot win this state.

Resources should be diverted to NC and TX as FL is a lost cause.

[msfiddlestix]

4. Florida has 30 EC votes???? (!) Wasn't it 21 EC votes not so long ago?

I'm multi-tasking this morning.... spotted this bit and caught me by surprise.

scratching my head. I'm very surprised by that number.

[In It to Win It]

5. No, it was 29 in the last cycle

[msfiddlestix]

12. interesting. seems like an over-sized EC count for that state. but there you have it. ty.

[jimfields33]

15. It's the third largest populated state. Of course we get 30!!!! Probably a lot more in 2030.

Only California and Texas have a larger population.

[Mariana]

22. I think you're right.

Florida is the biggest MAGAt magnet in the country. De Santis is attracting huge numbers of Republican voting retirees from all over the country. They will continue to increase the state population, and throw any statewide elections toward the Republicans, at least until the Boomers start to die off en masse.

[jimfields33]

23. Question is why are voters leaving the north?

500K from NYC alone in the last two years. I’m sure it’s a mix of both voters

[Yavin4]

24. Retirement

Boomers retire to Florida.

[jimfields33]

25. Good point.

Unfortunately for these states they leave is they take their pensions and tax revenue with them. I hope NYC can still raise enough taxes for all their needs. That’s a ton of people.

[Mariana]

28. New York will never ban abortion or persecute LGBTQ people.

Certainly not to the degree that Florida does. MAGAts prefer to live in a state that will do those things, if they have the option.

[Mariana]

27. Given the swing in De Santis's margin between his two governor elections

I doubt the incoming residents are evenly mixed as to political affiliation.

They aren't all coming from the north, either. Lots of the new residents of Florida are from Southern, Midwestern, and Western states. Florida has always been a popular state for retirees, and right now it's particularly attractive to those who are MAGAts. Most of the retirees are never going to be directly affected by De Santis's policies - they don't have kids in school, for example, and they don't need the kind of reproductive care that's being banned or severely restricted. They can cheerlead his reign of terror at no risk to themselves.

[bucolic_frolic]

6. Could there be federal oversight of FL elections?

[jimfields33]

26. If they can prove fraud.

Republicans are finding out it’s impossible (of course it is not happening where they believe it is). lol.

[In It to Win It]

7. I think we can flip Florida, but not by 2024

It would take a herculean effort to flip Florida by 2024.

As a Floridian, I'd appreciate the investment. Lord knows we need it.

[FloridaBlues]

8. Doubt this will happen in 2024. Esp if either Florida candidate on ballot

Focus on down ballot races here.

[gohuskies]

9. DeSantis is cut from the same cloth as Huey Long

A totally corrupt demogogue but he infinitely worse because of his sheer cruelty and brutish way of inflicting deliberate suffering and pain in places beyond Florida. That s.o.b. needs to voted out of office and there is no way he should get close to the Oval Office.

[former9thward]

10. What a waste of money and resources.

[mcar]

11. Perhaps. If the DNC and outside donors pour

millions into the state for GOTV, youth, and minority outreach efforts.

75% of registered Democrats in Florida ages 18-25 did not vote in 2022. Many of them were shocked, shocked when DeathSentence and his goons in the legislature banned abortion.

The party needs to work with young activists to help young voters see the connection. Our wonderful GenZ Congressman, Maxwell Frost, has good ideas.

But I fear that it's going to take many years to undo what the Rs have done here. It needs to start at the city and county level so we can build up a base of good candidates.

[Hortensis]

13. :) I think the Republicans may just help us flip Florida. Yes.

As for those who imagine it's impossible, based on WHAT?

FL went for Democrats 2 of the last 4 elections.

2000 D 48.8 R 48.9

2004 D 47.1 R 52.1

2008 D 51.0 R 48.2

2012 D 50.0 R 49.1

2016 D 47.8 R 49.0 (Big LW anti-Dem noise about evil Hillary/corrupt Dems, attacks on ACA)

2020 D 47.9 R 51.2 (New Cuban & So American MAGA turnout, feeling peculiarly safe from persecution)

These days it's not irrational to think the Republicans may continue to change minds of those who didn't fear the consequences of electing them.

[Peacetrain]

14. You have made my day!!!! .. I think he can too!!

[dembotoz]

16. with desantis home state and mara lago crook home state.....REALLY?????

got better drugs than i have access to

[Johonny]

17. This is every 4 years pipe dream

If it happens it happens, but put money in races that can be won. I don't trust the Florida vote and never will.

[Phoenix61]

18. It's all about getting out the vote.

Beau did an excellent video on this. Look at Jacksonville, a female mayor for the first time ever and a Dem at that. All those kids at New College are royally pissed and well organized. This is doable.

[Sky Jewels]

19. Florida needs investment in year-round grassroots Democratic organizing

and liberal Spanish-language media to counteract the Maga loons and hard-right Cuban propaganda. And it probably needs a big overhaul of its Democratic Party establishment. Time for energized young progressives to take over, like with Anderson Clayton, the new Gen Z party leader in North Carolina.

I doubt a top-down, once-every-four-years approach will do much.

But what do I know... I'm at the opposite corner of the country, just looking on in horror.

[madville]

20. A lot changed after 2020

Many right leaning folks moved here to “escape” COVID lockdowns and vaccine mandates as well as the civil unrest in some areas at the time. Desantis went from winning by 1% to 20% in just four years. Turned FL from purple back to red for at least the next few cycles.

[edhopper]

21. I'll believe it

when DeSantis goes below 60% approval. Until then, try for States we can win.