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kpete

(71,996 posts)
Mon May 22, 2023, 02:41 PM May 2023

Bob Woodward roasts Trump's 'everything is mine' take in 'unprecedented' copyright suit:

Bob Woodward roasts Trump’s ‘everything is mine’ take in ‘unprecedented’ copyright suit: Interview tapes ‘belong to the People’

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Earlier this year, former President Donald Trump filed a $50 million lawsuit against Woodward in a federal court in Florida, over the publication of the audiobook “The Trump Tapes: The Historical Record.” Trump claims that Woodward promised only to use the 19 recorded interviews for the 2020 bestseller, “Rage.” Woodward’s release of the companion audiobook, Trump argues, “systematically, blatantly, and unlawfully usurped” his “copyright interests, his contractual rights, and the rights he holds as an interviewee.”

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“No President before Donald Trump has ever claimed to own a copyright in presidential interviews or demanded royalties for their republication,” McNamara wrote in the 44-page memo.

In the introduction of the filing, Woodward’s legal team provides a historical overview of how ex-presidents relied upon the Fourth Estate. The Hartford Courant published Washington’s first inaugural address to Congress, and Abraham Lincoln spoke to The New York Times to convey why he allowed Black troops to join the Union’s fight, the filing notes.

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Woodward’s attorneys excoriated Trump’s “unprecedented effort to extract private benefit from his public duties.”

“As if on a mission to prove this ‘everything is mine’ thesis, Donald Trump, ‘in his individual capacity,’ asserts that he owns Woodward’s entire Work because it includes words spoken by ‘President Trump, 45th President of the United States of America,'” the filing states. “And President Trump seeks to profit from his public service by demanding Defendants pay him nearly $50 million.”

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https://lawandcrime.com/trump/bob-woodward-roasts-trumps-everything-is-mine-take-in-unprecedented-copyright-suit-interview-tapes-belong-to-the-people/

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Bob Woodward roasts Trump's 'everything is mine' take in 'unprecedented' copyright suit: (Original Post) kpete May 2023 OP
God if he wins again he will have no mercy on his opponents underpants May 2023 #1
Lol, yes, but he won't. I'm surprised he doesn't claim he took Hortensis May 2023 #9
Yeah well, that's how "copyrights" work, right? PatSeg May 2023 #18
He's so trumpy! It's going to end up a synonym Hortensis May 2023 #21
Yeah, variations of "Trump" PatSeg May 2023 #23
You're in luck: Trumpery, something without use or value MagickMuffin May 2023 #24
That really was The Donald, so appropriate. Then. Hortensis May 2023 #25
Indeed, all those definitions fit him to, well, a T MagickMuffin May 2023 #26
:) Hortensis May 2023 #28
THIS malaise May 2023 #2
Trump is mainly trying to extract sympathy from his cult and more attention from the media. Alexander Of Assyria May 2023 #11
👇👇👇👁️👁️ Goonch May 2023 #3
This will get thrown out of court, Mr.Bill May 2023 #4
Court costs should sometimes include the cost of the Judge, Courthouse time and related salaries. Alexander Of Assyria May 2023 #12
Remember the White House photographer? Trump stole her work product for a coffee table book... Hekate May 2023 #5
I remember that one. As I recall, the title was... keep_left May 2023 #19
Well, assuming anyone owns the words other than Woodward, it would be U.S. taxpayers. Vinca May 2023 #6
Hard to understand how any attorney can put their name to legal actions like this. They Pepsidog May 2023 #7
Sick that this behavior appeals to such a large segment of our society Mr. Ected May 2023 #8
Capitalism is trying to swallow democracy...again?...deserves applause, no crucifixion... Alexander Of Assyria May 2023 #13
The problem is not capitalism, the problem is the lack of regulations and accountability. Escurumbele May 2023 #16
:) Agree. Except that last paragraph would only apply to large influencers, Hortensis May 2023 #27
He's a Bully alotus51 May 2023 #10
Clearly Putin Johonny May 2023 #15
Trump claims that Woodward promised only to use the 19 recorded interviews for the 2020 bestseller, Johonny May 2023 #14
can't some judge somehow somewhere barbtries May 2023 #17
Hmmmmm spanone May 2023 #20
There should be a separate court system... lame54 May 2023 #22
This tosser is so bloody stupid, that he doesn't see the potential blowback ExWhoDoesntCare May 2023 #29

underpants

(182,829 posts)
1. God if he wins again he will have no mercy on his opponents
Mon May 22, 2023, 03:20 PM
May 2023

Hell go up and down Putin’s enemies list.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. Lol, yes, but he won't. I'm surprised he doesn't claim he took
Mon May 22, 2023, 04:46 PM
May 2023

ownership of Woodward's records by "thinking" they were his. There's still time for that, though.

And demanding a share of royalties!

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
18. Yeah well, that's how "copyrights" work, right?
Mon May 22, 2023, 05:32 PM
May 2023

Who needs all that paperwork and red tape anyway?

He is so pathetic.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. He's so trumpy! It's going to end up a synonym
Mon May 22, 2023, 07:24 PM
May 2023

for pathologically slimy. Filling the void where there's no word bad enough but will be now.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
23. Yeah, variations of "Trump"
Tue May 23, 2023, 08:15 AM
May 2023

are going to end up being synonyms for pretty every negative word there is. "Pathologically slimy" will be on the top of the list.

MagickMuffin

(15,943 posts)
24. You're in luck: Trumpery, something without use or value
Tue May 23, 2023, 12:18 PM
May 2023


Look up trumpery for yourself


Noun

Rubbish, trash, worthless stuff



Nonsense, twaddle
His usual conversation is pure trumpery


Archaic: worthless finery

Adjective
Of little or no value; trifling; worthless; rubbishy; trashy


malaise

(269,054 posts)
2. THIS
Mon May 22, 2023, 03:22 PM
May 2023

Woodward’s attorneys excoriated Trump’s “unprecedented effort to extract private benefit from his public duties.”

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
11. Trump is mainly trying to extract sympathy from his cult and more attention from the media.
Mon May 22, 2023, 05:00 PM
May 2023

The cost of a lawsuit is fractional compared to the cost of all the free media.

Any political motive can be advanced by abusing the legal system…a familiar pattern with fascists.

Mr.Bill

(24,303 posts)
4. This will get thrown out of court,
Mon May 22, 2023, 03:31 PM
May 2023

Trump will be required to pay all of Woodward's legal expences, and Woodward will never see a dime of it. When Trump dies, the people trying to attach his estate for the money he lost in court will break all-time records.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
12. Court costs should sometimes include the cost of the Judge, Courthouse time and related salaries.
Mon May 22, 2023, 05:03 PM
May 2023

Split evenly and jointly between vexatious litigants and the team of kraken counsel.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
5. Remember the White House photographer? Trump stole her work product for a coffee table book...
Mon May 22, 2023, 03:35 PM
May 2023

…published under his own name. Left her with none of the traditional perks at all.

Such a pig.

keep_left

(1,784 posts)
19. I remember that one. As I recall, the title was...
Mon May 22, 2023, 05:50 PM
May 2023

...Our Journey Together. As if pronouns like "us", "we", and "our" even exist for Trump. It's all about the "me, me, me".

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
8. Sick that this behavior appeals to such a large segment of our society
Mon May 22, 2023, 04:46 PM
May 2023

I'll be crucified for saying it, but capitalism and democracy seem to be on a collision course with each other right now. It'll be a battle to the death.

Escurumbele

(3,395 posts)
16. The problem is not capitalism, the problem is the lack of regulations and accountability.
Mon May 22, 2023, 05:27 PM
May 2023

If both are implemented the way they were meant to be implemented the crooks would have a very hard time doing their dirty deeds, but in the USA people in general have come to idolize those with money, which has opened the door to political crooks to mold the laws to help them get away with murder.

Many people say "Politics is so dirty", which is not true, politics is beautiful, the problem is that we have dirty politicians in the republican party, and that makes it look as if politics is dirty.

We need strong accountability, the first amendment must be more specific, one should be able to have opinions as long as they are based on the truth, the 1st amendment should not condone lies and defamation. Politicians should be banned from lying, there must be rules, very strong ones that punish those who lie.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. :) Agree. Except that last paragraph would only apply to large influencers,
Tue May 23, 2023, 12:32 PM
May 2023

capable of corrupting the understanding of whole groups, not to normal individuals. (And on this subject, "No, Democrats are not practically the same as Republicans.")

Of course, to have good government we have to elect good people. That means more of us need to live up to our responsibilities than have been.

We're extremely fortunate that our government's principles and institutions have held up much better under attack than the electorate has. Previous regulations were created by those who came before and dismantled with the approval of most of those here now.

alotus51

(33 posts)
10. He's a Bully
Mon May 22, 2023, 04:57 PM
May 2023

Has anyone ever stood up to Trump? I don't mean in the courts I mean personally? As in get right up in his face and say fuck you asshole! Has that happened at any point in his life? It won't happen now with his secret service protection but I just wonder if he's ever been called out?

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
15. Clearly Putin
Mon May 22, 2023, 05:09 PM
May 2023

Look at Trump's face the whole time they're together. It's the look of a man that got put in place by a bigger bully.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
14. Trump claims that Woodward promised only to use the 19 recorded interviews for the 2020 bestseller,
Mon May 22, 2023, 05:08 PM
May 2023

Trump didn't get that in writing. And I assume if he gave permission for one use, he essentially gave away any rights he had.

barbtries

(28,799 posts)
17. can't some judge somehow somewhere
Mon May 22, 2023, 05:29 PM
May 2023

declare trump a vexatious frivolous litigator and stop this bullshit?

isn't that something that happens?

spanone

(135,844 posts)
20. Hmmmmm
Mon May 22, 2023, 05:58 PM
May 2023
Trump claims that Woodward promised only to use the 19 recorded interviews for the 2020 bestseller, “Rage'.

Well don, these recorded interviews are for bestseller audiobook of 'RAGE'.

lame54

(35,294 posts)
22. There should be a separate court system...
Mon May 22, 2023, 07:42 PM
May 2023

Created for all of of Trump's lawsuits

That way the real court system won't be as bogged down

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
29. This tosser is so bloody stupid, that he doesn't see the potential blowback
Wed May 24, 2023, 12:42 AM
May 2023

I don't think any court is stupid enough to side with TFG, but, to play devil's advocate, let's say he does win. What he says, belongs to him.

Well, publishers and reporters won't take that lying down for one instant. They'll protect their own interests by demanding that interviewees sign release statements, up front, insuring that whatever gets said in an interview belongs to the publication or reporter, not to the celebrity. Those who don't sign, won't get interviewed. "Sorry, we can't take the risk of liability if you change your mind about what you tell us and decide to sue after we publish."

What's great about that is that this slimy scumbag won't sign, at least not in the beginning, because he thinks all of his "his" words belong only to him.

So nobody will interview him. Imagine that. No more TFG!

Well, he won't have that. He couldn't live without the attention, so he'll start signing the releases so fast we'll all get whiplash. And then the legit press will have him, right where they want him: At their mercy.

Was it Twain who said never to cross those who buy ink by the barrel? Because they will get the last word here, one way or another.


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