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Nevilledog

(51,122 posts)
Mon May 22, 2023, 03:09 PM May 2023

Tribe & Raskin support using the 14th Amendment to solve debt ceiling issue



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Laurence Tribe 🇺🇦 ⚖️
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Exactly right! @RepRaskin is spot on. There’s nothing optional about the 14th Amdt. “Invoking” the 14th isn’t even a thing. It’s not a “get out of jail free” card but a set of handcuffs. It must be obeyed. McCarthy should read it.

Rep. Jamie Raskin
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The 14th Amdt provides that the “validity of the public debt…shall not be questioned.” This is not an “option” but a mandate. We can’t allow the MAGA fringe to crash the economy if we don’t cave into their demands to destroy critical social programs for vets, nutrition & health.
10:34 AM · May 22, 2023
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Tribe & Raskin support using the 14th Amendment to solve debt ceiling issue (Original Post) Nevilledog May 2023 OP
It's a good strategy too Johnny2X2X May 2023 #1
Don't see how anyone would have standing to sue. Nevilledog May 2023 #2
It's been a phony issue all along. Why the Dems gave it credence is a mystery. n/t Eyeball_Kid May 2023 #3
There will be some sort of challenge Johnny2X2X May 2023 #4
Prof. Tribe has already given the answer to that-- lastlib May 2023 #9
TY, Tribe, & Raskin.. It makes Cha May 2023 #5
The repukes blackmail rule needs to be ended, it's just a tool they use against Democrats. yaesu May 2023 #6
They keep saying Congress holds the purse strings Walleye May 2023 #7
There are even more laws to cite IbogaProject May 2023 #8
GMTA... littlemissmartypants May 2023 #10

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
1. It's a good strategy too
Mon May 22, 2023, 03:11 PM
May 2023

Puts the onus back on Republicans to challenge it in court and the default goes back to be 100% on them for the public.

Nevilledog

(51,122 posts)
2. Don't see how anyone would have standing to sue.
Mon May 22, 2023, 03:17 PM
May 2023

How do you argue you've been damaged because bills are being paid?

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
4. There will be some sort of challenge
Mon May 22, 2023, 03:23 PM
May 2023

They'll say he doesn't have the authority. But it will buy some time at least.

lastlib

(23,248 posts)
9. Prof. Tribe has already given the answer to that--
Mon May 22, 2023, 05:43 PM
May 2023

He says the president has a DUTY to continue paying the bills of the US. And the constitutionality of a "debt ceiling" is dubious to a good many scholars. Not sure the Roberts-Thomas-Alito clique will go along with that; 'tis the question.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
5. TY, Tribe, & Raskin.. It makes
Mon May 22, 2023, 03:30 PM
May 2023

so much sense to me. The Bills must be paid without destroying Social programs that actually help people. The Billionaires don't need more tax breaks. That's why we're in so much debt NOW.

So the magats do want to "destroy programs for Vets", too. Gops said Pres Biden was lying when he said that.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
6. The repukes blackmail rule needs to be ended, it's just a tool they use against Democrats.
Mon May 22, 2023, 03:38 PM
May 2023

time to end it once and for all by fighting it with the constitution.

Walleye

(31,028 posts)
7. They keep saying Congress holds the purse strings
Mon May 22, 2023, 04:20 PM
May 2023

They love that metaphor, well the debt ceiling is to pay the bills that Congress ran up with their “purse strings“. And Kevin has yet to submit an actual budget

IbogaProject

(2,816 posts)
8. There are even more laws to cite
Mon May 22, 2023, 05:15 PM
May 2023

The 1997 platinum coinage act and the 1974 Budget act also back up any actions Joe does to avoid default. Isn't the 1917 law that this is about basically meaningless as most of it's provisions are now moot?

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