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In It to Win It

(8,254 posts)
Mon May 22, 2023, 04:50 PM May 2023

Ron DeSantis is learning that not every state wants to be Florida

NBC News


Wherever Gov. Ron DeSantis goes, he brings greetings from “the free state of Florida.” He heralds his “Florida Blueprint.” And he brags about how many people originally from whichever state he happens to be visiting love taking advantage of Florida’s warm weather and low taxes.

But a funny thing has happened as DeSantis travels the country with a “Make America Florida” message that underpins the Republican’s soon-to-launch presidential campaign.

DeSantis has found that not everyone wants to be Florida. And he has encountered spirited pushback from competitive fellow governors and GOP officials who believe that their states have done just as much, if not more, to advance a conservative agenda.

“It’s a lot of fun competing with my colleagues and Republican governors across the country,” Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds, who has hosted DeSantis in the first-in-the-nation caucus state, said in an interview with NBC News. “But make no mistake, we are competitors.”
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Ron DeSantis is learning that not every state wants to be Florida (Original Post) In It to Win It May 2023 OP
Fuck your "free" Tyrant State, deSatan. Cha May 2023 #1
And then go fuck yourself, DeSatan! Blue Owl May 2023 #6
A Tyrant Free for all.. you salute or you go to jail.. lose your job etc.. Cha May 2023 #10
Of course many have advanced a conservative agenda as much or more. Hortensis May 2023 #2
Competitors at what? Because all Republicans toe the party line. live love laugh May 2023 #3
Competitive in how reactionary and regressive they can be...of course. Caliman73 May 2023 #12
East Germany, home of the Stasi secret police... The Unmitigated Gall May 2023 #4
I knew it, Republican governors are competing to see who can be the most fascist Walleye May 2023 #5
hump Trump the hardest is how I put it Skittles May 2023 #7
Their lack of self-awareness is frightening Walleye May 2023 #11
the "free state of Florida" except onethatcares May 2023 #8
My thoughts exactly! blue neen May 2023 #9
Don't Floridate America Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2023 #13

Cha

(297,306 posts)
10. A Tyrant Free for all.. you salute or you go to jail.. lose your job etc..
Mon May 22, 2023, 06:52 PM
May 2023

him and his Orwellian Gaslight Needs to have a Brutal Awakening.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
2. Of course many have advanced a conservative agenda as much or more.
Mon May 22, 2023, 05:10 PM
May 2023

Without going out of their way to shoot themselves in their go-go boots.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
12. Competitive in how reactionary and regressive they can be...of course.
Mon May 22, 2023, 07:19 PM
May 2023

Conservatism is a reactionary ideology by nature. They have a worldview that is informed by history and tradition. Specifically the history and traditions of monarchy and aristocracy. Because the United States was formed and grew up in an era where Monarchy, specifically was being challenged, Conservatives in the US are not keen on hereditary nobility, however they still hold all of the same ideas that Edmund Burke, Thomas Hobbes, Joseph DeMaistre, and other fathers of Conservatism hold, that the natural state of Man is sinful and savage, that God naturally blessed a certain type of person (Wealthy, White, Protestant Men) with the ability to lead, and that society functions best with a rigid hierarchy where the "blessed" have an ordained right to be in charge and make all the rules.

Whereas liberals and people futher to the left, are more egalitarian and are typically driven by information supported by evidence, Conservatives are whetted to their ideology regardless of any evidence to the contrary. They see any challenge to their worldview as a fundamental conflict between "good and evil".

So, while DeSantis and the Red governors share a core of beliefs, they are more likely to compete about who is being more faithful to the Conservative ideology of protecting the power structure from liberalism.

The Unmitigated Gall

(3,819 posts)
4. East Germany, home of the Stasi secret police...
Mon May 22, 2023, 05:17 PM
May 2023

Styled itself the “German Democratic Republic” (GDR); there was nothing democratic about that closed totalitarian hellhole.
North Korea calls itself the “Democratic People’s Republic of Korea” (DPRK); the horseshit behind that name is obvious.
Snowflake Ron is just another tin-pot thug papering over the shithole hellscape he’s building.

onethatcares

(16,172 posts)
8. the "free state of Florida" except
Mon May 22, 2023, 06:29 PM
May 2023

when you want to read books, or ask questions about who's pqying for his travels, or so many other things.

the lie runs deep, I can't understand why people are buying into it.

blue neen

(12,322 posts)
9. My thoughts exactly!
Mon May 22, 2023, 06:32 PM
May 2023

Make Pennsylvania Florida. Make Iowa Florida. Make America Florida.

I guess DeSantis doesn't realize how offensive that statement is to residents of other states. Did he think that line up or did the Missus?

We're proud of our homes. If we had wanted to move to Florida we would have done it long ago.

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