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https://thetriad.thebulwark.com/p/biden-is-the-centrist-president-everyoneOne of the criticisms I often hear about Joe Biden is that hes a tool of the progressive left who has given them full run of the store.
This doesnt make a ton of sense! It seems to me that many (most?) lefty progressives are frequently frustrated by Biden because of his tendency to compromise with Republicans and conservative Democratsas well as his reluctance to wade into the kind of big, structural fights that liberals believe are necessary.1
From where I sit, it looks like Biden is the centrist president everyone always says they want.2
Biden passed the American Rescue Plan that included a lot of spending, but it was short on progressive give-aways and long on help for working families. The Inflation Reduction Act was passed on party line, but was full of spending for rural states. He passed a bipartisan gun reform law that was modest enough to leave gun-reform advocates wanting a lot more. He accomplished a big infrastructure spending law with large-scale Republican support.3 He passed the CHIPS Act to jump-start domestic semiconductor manufacturing with lots of Republican votes. He passed the Respect for Marriage Act with loads of Republican votes, too.
Mad_Machine76
(24,414 posts)I don't have Trumpers on my social media feeds but I have lots of left-wing friends there who are constantly angry and frustrated with him (and Democrats in general) and often refer to him mockingly as a 1980's era Republican, which makes me chuckle every time I hear people on the right call him some kind of a left-wing radical. I think it's fair to say that he has been a bit better than some people thought he might be in terms of trying to advance progressive causes, but he is no radical. He is a centrist/moderate liberal.
emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)No doubt people who werent alive in the 80s or actually know anything about the Reagan years. Makes me chuckle too when I read that stuff on reddit or twitter.
Mad_Machine76
(24,414 posts)It drives me crazy. From what I can remember, Republicans were less sh**ty in the 1980s but they were still shi**ty but almost none of them were pro-choice, pro-same-sex marriage, pro-LGBTQ, etc. Their description of Biden as a Republican is illogical.
Earth-shine
(4,044 posts)Mad_Machine76
(24,414 posts)more than a 1980s one. But socially he was still so much more progressive than Republicans of almost any era.
Cha
(297,311 posts)Susan Sarandon, Krystal Ball, MW fans, ..? I say consider the source.
I think Pres Biden is a practical Progressive.. with all the Forces against him he Strives to Get Things Done to Better Our Lives and the Life of our Country and Planet.
He's the one who WON.. nobody else did.. he got us where we are today.
I absolutely hate those who mouth off but don't know what they're talking about.
This is our Democracy we're Fighting to SAVE.
Mad_Machine76
(24,414 posts)That opinion is certainly not my own. As somebody much older than some of my 20-something or 30-something friends, I have to explain to some of them how government actually works and why some things cant or wont be done the way they think it is.
Cha
(297,311 posts)just saying.
FalloutShelter
(11,869 posts)It is somewhat unfair to criticize him for not pushing liberal priorities that I JOE knows he cannot get passed. Given a second term and possibly the votes in Congress then we will see.
emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)Hekate
(90,714 posts)I like that image Whoever this guy is, he makes some good points.
Look: I dont know whats going to happen with the debt ceiling. Maybe there will be no resolution and America will default. Maybe McCarthys demands will be so outlandish that they will be designed to trigger a default. Or maybe Biden will refuse to compromise on a reasonable Republican proposal.
Maybe, when he meets with My Kevin today, Biden will take of his aviators, slap a platinum trilly on the table, and yell, How about that, Jack! At which point liberals across the land will cheer.
But what if, instead, Biden gets to a compromise with Republicans? Again?
Shermann
(7,423 posts)It's seemingly all just one big "radical left" bucket over there.
My impression of Fox News:
Them them they blah blah they the left blah blah woke blah radical left blah blah open borders blah blah cancel culture blah blah
emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)betsuni
(25,537 posts)Joe Manchin's score is 26.10, getting into actual centrist territory.
Krysten Sinema 14.19
Hillary Clinton 7.89
Barack Obama 7.56
Bernie Sanders 6.05
Amy Klobuchar 5.01
Kamala Harris 4.45
Elizabeth Warren 3.36
Al Franken 1.50
"Centrist" -- one of those insult words that when you get down to it really means "yer a capitalist."
doc03
(35,346 posts)has been more liberal than I would like.
mzmolly
(50,996 posts)and I'm pleasantly surprised.
Kennah
(14,273 posts)He's had to contend with Manchild and Cinnabon and now Speaker Kevin McAllister.