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* Neal Katyal: Trump DOJ spied electronically on Congressional enemies
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017830399
What laws didn't he break?
Cattle Rustling or maybe illegal gill net fishing for salmon?
And was he trying to cover up his work for and with Russia/Putin?
Did Bill Barr know about this? And who did this work for him? Where are the warrants for the alleged wire tapping?
If Garland and the DoJ have proof of this illegal spying by TFG on people like Adam Schiff Trump, needs
to brought in for questioning ASAP.
* E. Jean Carroll moves to amend defamation lawsuit to include Trump's statements to CNN
E. Jean Carrol is going to sue Trump for another $10 million for the shit he said on his CNN Townhall
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217935690
* Did Trump start selling out America and America's secrets from the moment he got into the White House?
"Prosecutors Sought Records on Trump's Foreign Business Deals Since 2017"
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143077645
"The subpoena drafted by the office of the special counsel, Jack Smith sought details on the Trump Organizations real estate licensing and development dealings in seven countries: China, France, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates and Oman, according to the people familiar with the matter. The subpoena sought the records for deals reached since 2017, when Mr. Trump was sworn in as president."
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I will take mid July in the pool as to when TFG flees America.
viva la
(3,392 posts)He was yucking it up with Putin's ambassador in the Oval Office. So yeah, he was already selling us out.
And yet none if this matters to the GOP.
At that meeting Trump "burned" an Israeli agent who was inside ISIS in Syria too by telling the Russians about
that agent. BTW Ambassador Kislyak was right in the middle of Russia's rat fucking the 2016 elections.
GreenWave
(6,903 posts)That would have been a great sound bite if Phil Collins would permit,
"You walked out! You left us behind!"
JohnnyRingo
(18,740 posts)If that's not shady, ...well, of course it is.
KS Toronado
(17,602 posts)Nobody needs to know what my friend & I talk about.
boston bean
(36,229 posts)ASSet.
I got for real shit scared for our country and our democracy. Yeah it was scary already but that day will forever live in my memory like 9/11. It was that jolting.
Larissa
(792 posts)Putin has always had Trump on a choke collar. In public with Putin, Trump even tries to diminish his own height so he won't seem to tower over Pooty-Poot-Putin. Trump doesn't even pretend to hide his disloyalty to this country when it comes to polishing Pooty's knob every chance he gets. What prize from Putin could Trump possibly be jockeying for? Putin's own cronies often wind up falling out of windows, drinking "bad" tea, or getting contaminated by military grade toxins smeared on doorknobs and such.
Freddie
(9,299 posts)I check out RCP sometimes to see what the other side is thinking. One of the featured articles proclaimed that the Russia hoax is worse than Watergate. I swear we live on 2 different planets.
Alice Kramden
(2,177 posts)Tass
Ponietz
(3,102 posts)Escurumbele
(3,430 posts)White House?"
YES, and this time I hope the truth comes out.
Botany
(70,724 posts)... White House?"
No it even before that. See the change in the 2016 GOP platform where Trump/Manafort made it
more Putin/Russia friendly and pulled in support of Zelenskyy/Ukraine's war with Russia & both
Gen. Flynn and Erik Prince were having secret "back channel" contacts with pro Putin Russian agents.
https://www.npr.org/2017/12/04/568310790/2016-rnc-delegate-trump-directed-change-to-party-platform-on-ukraine-support
Delmette2.0
(4,183 posts)I bet he knew just what to keep to himself and what to tell Donald.
OMGWTF
(4,020 posts)gave it to him anyway. Who dafuq does that?
Delmette2.0
(4,183 posts)So someone else has to read everything and explain in simple terms so that he understands a basic outline.
LaMouffette
(2,044 posts)America's heartland AND into all red states across the country and for these paratroopers to start shooting everyone in sight, like at the beginning of the movie Red Dawn, for the Trump humpers to finally remember, "Oh, yeah! That's right! The Russian government hates us and wants to destroy our country!"
That's exactly how brain damaged the magats are and how asleep most of America is.
DENVERPOPS
(9,004 posts)The perfect title of a book written about the past 40+ years would be:
WHILE AMERICA SLEPT.......................
LaMouffette
(2,044 posts)Karl Marx once said that religion is the opiate of the masses.
But today, it's not religion, but addictive TV programming that is keeping Americans so distracted they are kept unaware of the destruction of our democracy that is occurring at this very moment.
I'm guilty of this myself, watching way more TV than I should. But I wonder how much more politically aware the majority of Americans would be if we still had just the four channels: ABC, NBC, CBS, and PBS.
LoisB
(7,301 posts)NCjack
(10,279 posts)supply, delivery, and money flow.
The truth
Alpeduez21
(1,762 posts)Having the press kiss his ass. Having repuke lackeys fawning all over him. Knowing the DOJ will walk on eggshells around him. Im sure hes just terrified of all the terrible things that are waiting for h at some point in the future. His ass should be in a ducking cell yester-fucking-day. The goddamn pentagon leaker is being held for doing less than the lazy lying steaming pile Hump does before fucking breakfast every fucking day. This is bullshit. He could be president again for ducks sake!
Hotler
(11,528 posts)CrispyQ
(36,640 posts)JFC!
edhopper
(33,747 posts)that might show treason. Why are they being kept hidden. Even if classified, somebody in authority should know what was said.
DENVERPOPS
(9,004 posts)there were many times he didn't even let the secretary, who recorded what was said, into the meeting. And several times that the Secretary was there and Trump personally asked for the notes after the meeting, and tore them up..........
edhopper
(33,747 posts)is a felony. Straight up crime. And yet he is allowed to get away with it.
DENVERPOPS
(9,004 posts)Corruption and Illegal shit his entire life, why would he stop now.??????????
He didn't actually think he would win the election in 2016, but once it happened, by hook or by crook, it opened a whole new universe of possibilities for massive grifting, corruption and criminal activity. I doubt anyone will ever know the un-fathomable amount of money Trump, Ivanka, and Jared made off grifting during the Covid Pandemic alone....................
Grasswire2
(13,580 posts)..."memo of conversation" -- which is filed in State Department files forever.
Here is an article I posted earlier on DU about the ability of a president to declassify such a memo of conversation:
[link:https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217731339|
quakerboy
(13,928 posts)Every day he is not in jail is a better day for him than he has earned.
FakeNoose
(33,047 posts)Whether Jeff Sessions or Bill Barr knew and failed to stop it, well that remains to be seen.
How did Chump get the snooping information turned over to Putin? Well let's ask Jared Kushner, I'm sure he has an idea.
I'm rooting for special counsel Jack Smith to get to the bottom of this, and much more!
Blue Owl
(50,732 posts)It's got kind of a shit-colored patina these days....
PatSeg
(47,876 posts)His reckless arrogance will be his undoing. He really thought he could do pretty much anything and not suffer any real consequences. He has had enablers his entire life and they are every bit as guilty as he is.
The problem is he used to live in a "Trump bubble" where he had control over everything. Then he tried to turn the whole world into a Trump bubble and he lacked the intelligence, competence, and temperament to oversee it.
Cherokee100
(271 posts)Moscow, here he comes. 'Sorry about that'..
Walleye
(31,244 posts)Trump said, special counsel?, Im fucked! He knew damn well how many laws he was breaking. Unfortunately the scope of Muellers investigation never took him into these things, and he was afraid to arrest a president
Botany
(70,724 posts)Dept. A.G. Rod Rosenstein limited the investigation to Trump and Russia connections but
when Mueller showed real criminal connections between Trump and Russia he was shut down
by Barr's rule (it was not a law) that you are not allowed to indict a sitting President.
America needs to see the whole unredacted Mueller report now.
Muller left behind 10 solid cases of obstruction against Trump as per Russia but Garland chose
not to pursue those cases but he indicted lots of Russians but Barr dropped all those indictments
including the one on Russia oligarch, Oleg Deripaska who was paying FBI Agent McGonigal in 2016
to rat fuck Hillary's campaign and in 2022 he funded Tony DeVolder's campaign for the U.S. House
from N.Y. State.
Walleye
(31,244 posts)It seems to Jack Smith might be going after some of the crooked foreign real estate dealings. Thats going to make trump nervous. I hope
onetexan
(13,098 posts)Orrex
(63,334 posts)Every day that isnt the worst day of Trumps life is a day wasted.
deRien
(170 posts)a back channel to Russia?
Botany
(70,724 posts).... used those back channel networks. BTW the Trump administration did not fire Flynn for lying
to V.P. Pence and his staff he was fired for being caught being "chatty" with the Russian even before
Trump took office.
msfiddlestix
(7,290 posts)The day when his ASS is locked up for the rest of his life, will be one of the worst days of his life.
Right now, he is free as a bird, raising millions of dollars for his presidential campaign which will serve as a protective tool to prevent justice.
until then. it's only one of the worst days of our lives.
COL Mustard
(6,031 posts)It'll never happen. The worst he will get is probably home detention, which will be severe. He'd be too much of a target if he was in an actual prison, and the Secret Service couldn't protect him in there. It's just logistics, not justice but home confinement with limited visitors and no travel or means of communication would drive him mad. I hope.
msfiddlestix
(7,290 posts)we;ll never be spared his lunacy until the day he drops dead. But psychopaths like him seem to have longer lives than most.
maxsolomon
(33,516 posts)So far, there is no accountability, only the vague promise of accountability at some unspecified future date.
His father's right-hand man went to Rikers rather than turn on him.
Has he paid Carroll a penny?
Botany
(70,724 posts)... along with her office having the needed receipts and documents she plans to shut down all
businesses in N.Y. State that operated under the Trump name. She will also be referring charges
to the IRS and the U.S. Attorney's Office of the Southern District of N.Y..
"Trump, Donald Trump Jr., Ivanka Trump, and Eric Trump Used Fraudulent Statements of Financial Condition to Obtain Millions in Economic Benefits
Lawsuit Seeks to Remove Trump and His Children from Their Roles at the Trump Organization; Ban Them from Future Leadership Roles in New York; Repay $250 Million They Illegally Obtained."
https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2022/attorney-general-james-sues-donald-trump-years-financial-fraud
DENVERPOPS
(9,004 posts)for any of his corruption and criminal deeds his entire life.....Never.........
And honestly? I don't think he will, for the rest of his putrid life.............
The Republican Senators and House members won't let that happen because if "he goes, we go" mentality.
And even if any thing gets past the Republican members of the house and senate, it will end up at the USSC and we all know exactly how that will end, don't we????????????
maxsolomon
(33,516 posts)FOR ELEVEN YEARS.
DENVERPOPS
(9,004 posts)and that is just one of the countless things the IRS could have gone after him for, regarding the falsifying of his returns......
Eyeball_Kid
(7,450 posts)Assuming that the interest is compounded annually, that's over 400k per year. Carroll could live very comfortably on the interest alone. But there's more coming in Carroll's latest lawsuits. She's living rent-free in Donnie's head. AND Donnie is paying her for the residency.
rubbersole
(6,803 posts)...please don't stop now, you treasonous pos.
DENVERPOPS
(9,004 posts)back in the so called Reagan presidency, Reagan wasn't running things, HWBush was running everything.......
back in the so called "W" presidency, WBush wasn't running things, Cheney and Rumsfeld were running everything.......
back in the so called Trump presidency, Trump wasn't running things, Putin was running everything.........
Not only the presidency, but the entire Republican Party, from top to bottom..........
And, Putin still is running things, make no mistake about it..........With help from N.Korea, the Saudis, China, Iran, India, etc etc
rubbersole
(6,803 posts)...republican style. Professor Harlan Crow lecture at 3pm.
calimary
(81,695 posts)lame54
(35,403 posts)Otherwise they'd be on the list too
leftyladyfrommo
(18,883 posts)lame54
(35,403 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,430 posts)it was not a bad day for Trump.
ancianita
(36,274 posts)orangecrush
(19,713 posts)Then I'll celebrate.
Till I know he will be prevented from assuming office I fear for my nation.