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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs it better to stay in the market or get out?
What are you or smart people you know doing?
Frasier Balzov
(2,658 posts)Is the debt ceiling crisis worse than that?
Is the criminal indictment of a sectarian bully a bigger threat?
Through financial engineering, inverse ETFs are now readily available which can actually increase in value during market declines. Right there is a diversification idea to help cushion against any short-term drops.
diva77
(7,644 posts)suggestion. Not sure I understand how they work -- sounds complicated!
A HERETIC I AM
(24,371 posts)Some of them are VERY complicated.
Any ETF that shorts the market or an index is EXTREMELY risky to the novice or casual investor.
For that matter, selling short or using options in order to attempt to profit from a falling market involves risks that should only be taken by experienced traders or those with money to lose.
What should you do? If youre properly diversified via mutual funds or however your investments are structured, just hang in there. Market dips are buying opportunities, not selling signals.
Also, asking for and taking investment advice from complete strangers on a message board is an inherently bad idea.
diva77
(7,644 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,862 posts)People who try to time the markets tend to lose big time. Buy good stocks or funds and hang in there. Over time, the stock market rises something like 10% a year. Individual years fluctuate. One year might be 2%. The next year might be minus 8%, the year after that might be up 14%. But it averages out nicely.
I happen to have an excellent financial advisor who has done very well for me over the years. He has me in various funds, not individual stocks. Some years back he had me buy two annuities (which are generally swear words here because people don't understand them) and I've been taking income from them for a while now. I cannot outlive these annuities. If I die while there is still value there, my beneficiary will get the residue. If I actually live long enough, and if their investments aren't so good, I will still collect my guaranteed income.
I do want to reiterate that trying to time the market is a losing proposition. Buying good stocks or funds and staying with them long term is best. Also, there are various ways to invest. You absolutely want to be diversified. Meaning you want to be invested in different kinds of funds (or stocks if that's your preference) that include many different kinds of industries and such.
Were I investing on my own these days, I'd look closely at stocks that pay dividends. There are lots of them out there. I bet there are mutual funds that invest in those kinds of stocks.
But back to your question, stay in the market. You might possibly want to do some selling to realize cash and then jump in to buy at a downturn, but that's a version of timing the market, which is rarely a good strategy.
Honestly, I am financially secure because of buying and holding.
Deuxcents
(16,253 posts)Annuity. I got nervous about the big dips in 06, 11 and asked about it and my financial advisor put it together for me. My annuity is humming along but my IRA is not and at my age..I dont have time to recover. Sometimes I wish I would have rolled it all in it. People advised against the whole annuity idea but so far, Im good. Im not a gambler but Ive just done what I was advised
drray23
(7,634 posts)Over time it will grow.
As you approach retirement, you start shifting the stocks into safer investments like annuities.
Its best to have a financial advisor guide you on how to do this.
Most people with 401k have mutual funds which spread the risk over many stocks.
Trying to time the market or invest yourself in individual funds is difficult and usually lead to losing money.
Chainfire
(17,558 posts)Progressive Lawyer
(617 posts)Chainfire
(17,558 posts)either.
Johnny2X2X
(19,074 posts)And keep buying into it, if we default, there will be a crash and if you're still putting money in you'll see good growth. The markets are going to go up in the long run, even if we default soon.
BannonsLiver
(16,401 posts)Thats what Im doing.
former9thward
(32,029 posts)spinbaby
(15,090 posts)Enough to last me for a few months and ride out any panic.
Nevilledog
(51,132 posts)In an abundance of caution we've had all our funds put into a money market account until the debt ceiling issue is resolved. Wasn't initiated by the potential crisis, but just feels safer to pause our investments.