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(14,836 posts)RKP5637
(67,111 posts)peppertree
(21,639 posts)The two detest each other - but have found common ground in their shared fascist sympathies.
Siwsan
(26,272 posts)June 3 they will be here, and not TOO far from me.
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)recover ... and in the meantime I think it's going to get worse. It is really a red magnet now.
Aviation Pro
(12,172 posts)Wimpy Bush, Bald-Headed Fuck Scott and Ronald the Clown happened.
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BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)And was quoted as encouraging black fraternities to visit.
orleans
(34,061 posts)BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)And as I said the chairman of the NAACP lives in Tampa. Can't make this shit up lol.
rubbersole
(6,702 posts)Not everyone is a racist pos. There's a bunch of them, don't get me wrong. Getting the good people to vote is the challenge. Dobbs is helping.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)I lived there over 20 years.
I have wonderful memories, and I'm frequently homesick although I was not a native.
SouthernDem4ever
(6,617 posts)Until Rick Scott - it's slowly swirling down the toilet ever since. I take that back, it started in the year 2000 when the repug legislature there tried to stop the recount of a close election. I kind of ignored it for a while but I am unable to do that now.
BumRushDaShow
(129,136 posts)One of the local lawyer/activists here in Philly who is also a Kappa, wrote a column in the Philly Tribune back in March demanding the members of the Pan-Hellenic Council boycott the state of FL -
Micheal Coard Mar 17, 2023
As a proud member of Kappa Alpha Psi Fraternity, Inc., since 1979 at Cheyney University, I call on my beloved pro-Black brothers to do the right thing and boycott racism by canceling or relocating their scheduled July 18-23, 2023, Grand Chapter Konclave Meetings & Festivities in Tampa Bay, Florida.
I also call on all the other pro-Black brothers and sisters of the pro-Black Divine Nine (D9) organizations including Alpha Phi Alpha, Alpha Kappa Alpha, Omega Psi Phi, Delta Sigma Theta, Phi Beta Sigma, Zeta Phi Beta, Sigma Gamma Rho, and Iota Phi Theta to boycott anti-Black Gov. Ron DeSantis either by canceling any activities in Florida or by not scheduling any activities there, at least while he remains in office or his anti-Black policies remain in effect.
More about DeSantis racism later in this article.
(snip)
https://www.phillytrib.com/commentary/michaelcoard/coard-pro-black-kappas-and-other-pro-black-d9s-must-boycott-anti-black-fla-gov/article_60ae526c-cdfe-5770-8055-0e37c4a11fe8.html
It's not unprecedented as the Alphas (Alpha Phi Alpha) cancelled their convention in Arizona over a dozen years ago (including breaking contracts, etc) in response to the so-called "Papers Please" bill that was passed there. At the time, they were able to move the convention and activities to Las Vegas.
What the FL legislature has passed and what DeStupid has signed and promoted, is far far worse than what AZ did when it comes to the black community.
COL Mustard
(5,906 posts)I love it. He's just T*ump lite, or maybe heavy. Another Nazi I will never vote for.
BumRushDaShow
(129,136 posts)but the lead-up to it with the news of his filing the paper work, was pretty much blown away by a final F-U from the Queen of Rock and Roll when she passed away, with her story literally knocking his pre-announcement right out of the news cycle!
(true story! My iPad breaking banners started with a couple mentioning him and then suddenly a big pile appeared announcing her death)
not fooled
(5,801 posts)If it was her time to go, she performed one last good act on her way out.
IronLionZion
(45,462 posts)it's easy for outsiders like me to trash talk that state.
Plenty of minorities and Democrats live there. It's a big state.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)I don't live there anymore, but I had a love affair with that state for so many years.
Still do, though it's more of a wistful, fond memory of an old love now.
llmart
(15,540 posts)He is a software engineer for NASA at Kennedy Space Center. He loves his job and loves NASA. He's a lifelong Democrat who votes in all elections since he was 18. He campaigned for President Obama going door to door. He's not fond of Florida's politics or weather, but he would never leave because of his job. He also has many, many friends there and not a one of them is a Republican. He doesn't hang with people like today's Republicans. Most of his friends are highly educated and from other places originally and very politically aware (or woke, if you must).
Upthevibe
(8,053 posts)moreland01
(740 posts)I couldn't leave Texas fast enough. Moved to Florida. In 2002, I couldn't leave Florida fast enough. Happily residing in Colorado now. Please stay blue, Colorado!
RipVanWinkle
(228 posts)Been to Florida several times, but never lived there.
Am now living in New Mexico and I love it!
IronLionZion
(45,462 posts)if they moved from purple swing states in the upper midwest. Then Floriduh will eventually turn blue from rising sea levels.
speak easy
(9,267 posts)Florida is Red.
IronLionZion
(45,462 posts)FloriDUH is like a MAGAt catching trap, like a fly trap or ant trap
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)I met all kinds of people in Florida, and because of my work I met many struggling families on the "lower" end of society.
Almost 100% of those people, the white ones anyway, had moved from the NE or the midwest.
They all think it will be better in Florida. But they get there, and the same old problems they had in Ohio or New Jersey, or Illinois traveled right along with them all the way south.
Wherever you go, there you are.
ShazzieB
(16,426 posts)The bluer this place gets, the more I like it. I hate to see any place get even redder, but Florida, Texas, and certain other states seem to be setting themselves up for it.
Pretty soon, a lot of states in this erstwhile union will not be safe for anyone who is not cis, het, white, antichoice, born in this country, and conservative* Christian. (Some states already aren't, and others seem to be headed that way.)
*As opposed to progressive, because yes, there ARE progressive Christians and progressive denominations, and I get really tired of people acting like all who wear the label of Christian are fundamentalist nutjobs.
AZLD4Candidate
(5,699 posts)And before I hear that not all of Florida wants this. . .the 60% that voted for him did and they won.
I have no sympathy.
Zipgun
(182 posts)by the party going back a couple decades. The state level party has been notable for their infighting, incompetence and poor decisions going on since 1999. After the death of "Walking" Lawton Chiles the party just fell apart and let the GOP run rampant. Even so, most of the governor races have been very close till the last one. DeSantis won his first term by half a point. It would not have taken much for the story to be very different.
So no symnpathy, fair enough, but maybe, just maybe actually KNOW what your are talking about before you sneer at us. And by abandiong Florida completely, the national party will have to win a lot more smaller states to match the electoral collage votes that the GOP will then get automatically from Florida, not to mention fund raising, and developing future candidates. There are, and will continue to be, consequences for giving Florida to the GOP with no fight.
heckles65
(549 posts)Duly noted - and recognized.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Including China, where I believe you moved recently?
How many times have you visited Florida?
moondust
(19,993 posts)From all over the country and beyond found sunshine and a place where their money could buy exclusion of anything they hate? Why else would TFG move there?
BradBo
(531 posts)lark
(23,123 posts)They own everything, including the recumbent legislature.
dawg
(10,624 posts)In 2020, Biden got 5,297,045 Florida votes in his failed attempt to carry the state.
One number is larger than the other. If we would show up to vote we could win.
Poiuyt
(18,126 posts)BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Interesting to see it in that context.
Poiuyt
(18,126 posts)I would say that's a good thing, but then I think being "woke" is a good thing too.
CatWoman
(79,302 posts)ESPN personality Stephen A. Smith said that Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) has lost his damn mind after the NAACP issued a travel advisory to Florida in response to policies that have been criticized as discriminatory and anti-Black.
During a segment on his podcast Know Mercy with Stephen A. Smith, the star of ESPNs sports debate show First Take addressed the issue, saying that while he wasnt an aficionado on this subject he has the right to call out someone who looks like a damn fool.
And in the case of Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, at this pace, he might go down as one of the stupidest people Ive ever seen. And we know hes not stupid. We know how smart he is, Smith said in his podcast episode released Tuesday.
Smith also read NAACPs full advisory on Florida, highlighting the governors recent move to prohibit public colleges and universities in the state from funding diversity, equity and inclusion programs.
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4017964-espns-stephen-a-smith-to-desantis-have-you-lost-your-mind/
Scottie Mom
(5,812 posts)...moved from Santa Monica, CA, to Florida.
IMO, they deserve this RW bullshit totally.
RipVanWinkle
(228 posts)Is Elon Musk one of them?
Scottie Mom
(5,812 posts)As versus Mush who has bucks.
Old Crank
(3,598 posts)Is there another link to see it?
BarbD
(1,193 posts)Does it always come down to follow the money?
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)colleges and universities because of teaching restrictions. Women will avoid it like the plague because of its regressive laws on reproductive rights. No parent wants their children NOT to learn in its schools in order to get into good colleges and get a good job and get ahead in the world. It isn't safe to live there and its ecosystems are being threatened because of anti-environmentalism.
Can't breathe, can't work, can't learn, can't get ahead professionally (unless you are a regressive political appointee of the governor).
That's pretty much the ball game for Florida.
Come to Connecticut. Things are good here because Dems are in control.
PXR-5
(522 posts)on TV they are saying the population is surging, and FL is becoming one of the most expensive states, especially for home insurance.
I lived there for awhile, my dad moved north to Savannah, and I moved to NC.
Not sure what the attraction is, maybe the weather, but we are in the process of moving back to NJ.
JPK
(653 posts)But the FL home owners insurance industry is killing people financially. I own my house outright so I don't have to have home owners insurance but I wish I could afford it. My HOI went from $2k/yr to $5.5k in one year. They then closed shop. I believe the monied investors are circling like buzzards over SW FL ready to swoop in and buy up property for pennies that home owners can't afford to rebuild. Duhhhsantis is too busy running for prez along with his bought and paid for legislature and courts to worry about the citizens and their problems.
First time I've heard that one! 😆
Horrible that you can't get insurance 😞
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)He's given them catnip and they're rolling in it.
The cruelty is the point. Stigginit.
NotVeryImportant
(578 posts)Are notoriously anti-black and anti-left.
They're simultaneously racist and authoritarian leaning.
Of course Republicans love them.
This is why Florida is what it is today.
JPK
(653 posts)They escape an authoritarian dictator then move to a place where they support another authoritarian dictator. Why don't they just go back to Cuba?
former9thward
(32,028 posts)I have. Any state in the U.S. is better than Cuba. That is why Cubans are in the U.S. Others may differ.
Blue Owl
(50,435 posts)mkell33
(10 posts)Here is the percentage of registered voters by affiliation:
Republican: 36.7%
Democrat: 33.4%
No Affiliation: 29.8%
That is far from what the perception is about FL being all Red. It is NOT. It was Blue until 2-3 years ago. But when they got control they went hog wild controlling the vote and suppressing about 2/3 of the non-republicans here. THIS IS WHY WE NEED TO SUPPORT FL DEMOCRATS AND STOP ASSUMING THAT THERE IS NO CHANCE HERE. DeSantis look like a total boob and the witch burning crowd will not prevail. Support the FLDEMs. Win the agnostics back and ignore the Trump/DeSantis crazies.
budkin
(6,703 posts)After leading in EVERY SINGLE POLL.
speak easy
(9,267 posts)Emile
(22,798 posts)KY_EnviroGuy
(14,492 posts)Not good for tiny right-wing brains.
KY........
Skittles
(153,169 posts)FUCK DEFASCIST
PatrickforB
(14,578 posts)Or spending any money on anything that originated in that state.