Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

underpants

(182,791 posts)
Wed May 31, 2023, 06:55 AM May 2023

Fox News calls Rep. Norman (R-SC) on his lame excuse

Norman: It’s like the Pelosi days. You have to pass it before you can read it. This needs --
John: He is giving you 72 hours
Norman: For this serious of a bill.. you want to have a lot more time and I think --
John: It’s only 99 pages.
Norman: What?


?s=46&t=3VBm1LJ8j8qLp6JTs_8J2A

RALPH NORMAN: It's like the Pelosi days. You gotta pass it before you read it.

FOX: But he's giving you 72 hours to read it.

NORMAN: We ought to have a lot more time.

FOX: It's only 99 pages.


?s=46&t=3VBm1LJ8j8qLp6JTs_8J2A
16 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
2. This Lie About Speaker Pelosi Is Deliberate And Damnable
Wed May 31, 2023, 07:04 AM
May 2023

What she said was that people would find out what was in the bill once it was passed, and she said it because Republicans were shrieking lies about what the bill contained, and too many people were gulled by these shit-heels yawps. Once the bill was passed and operating, people would know the shrieks of 'death panels' and 'holocaust for seniors' and 'can't see your doctor' were a great pile of bullshit.

TeamProg

(6,124 posts)
13. I thought she was talking about reading the FINAL BILL after it
Wed May 31, 2023, 09:52 AM
May 2023

came back from the Senate’s changes.


3Hotdogs

(12,375 posts)
5. Fuckin Jerk-offs. Raising taxes on the rich will lead towards alleviating the debt problem.
Wed May 31, 2023, 07:46 AM
May 2023

Rescind the Bush and Trump tax credits.

onethatcares

(16,168 posts)
8. the binder full of blank pages from Boehner
Wed May 31, 2023, 08:11 AM
May 2023

pretty much sums up their offerings to the American citizens.

I haven't been able to find anything else that qualifies.

underpants

(182,791 posts)
10. CBO has to read it because they have to score it
Wed May 31, 2023, 09:05 AM
May 2023

Last edited Wed May 31, 2023, 10:05 AM - Edit history (1)

Although at least the Senate voted to have a vote in Trump’s tax cut BEFORE the scoring from CBO was available. It might have been done but Mitch got the vote done before anyone got the jaw dropping numbers.

BumRushDaShow

(128,922 posts)
14. Here
Wed May 31, 2023, 10:16 AM
May 2023
H.R.1 - An Act to provide for reconciliation pursuant to titles II and V of the concurrent resolution on the budget for fiscal year 2018.

2053 total pages for all budget items

The above authorized the Tax cuts for the Wealthy.

708 pages for H. Rept. 115-466 - TAX CUTS AND JOBS ACT (the "Conference Report" that included the tax cut bill legislation that was rolled into the above reconciliation bill)

Here is the timeline (final portion starting with the draft Conference report done by a Committee of the GOP-controlled House and reconciled with the GOP-controlled Senate, that would be put up for a vote, done as "reconciliation" )

Date Actions Overview

12/22/2017 | Became Public Law No: 115-97.
12/22/2017 | Signed by President.
12/21/2017 | Presented to President.
12/20/2017 | Resolving differences -- House actions: On motion that the House agree to the Senate amendment Agreed to by the Yeas and Nays: 224 - 201 (Roll no. 699).(text: CR H10261-10308)
12/19/2017 | Conference report agreed to in House: On agreeing to the conference report Agreed to by the Yeas and Nays: 227 - 203 (Roll no. 692).
12/15/2017 | Conference report filed: Conference report H. Rept. 115-466 filed.(text of conference report: CR H9943-10142)


In summary, the above bill to be voted on that passed the House and was sent to the Senate, gave Senators one day to review, where they added an amendment (possibly one that was "an Amendment as a Substitute) and passed it, sending it back to the House again, where in yet another one day limit for review with over 2000 pages, was passed again in its final form and ready to send to 45.

It was engrossed and given to 45 the following day and he signed it the day after that.

So it went from initial version ready to vote on in both chambers, to enacted law in 3 days.

And note, there were government C.R.s and funding bills that were being dealt with concurrent with this.

BumRushDaShow

(128,922 posts)
16. They rolled the tax cut bill into that larger reconciliation package...
Wed May 31, 2023, 01:11 PM
May 2023

and you bet it is a million times worse than what they are whining and moaning about.

99 pages versus 708 pages (standalone tax cuts) and 2053 pages (total) rammed through from final review/amendment to becoming law in "72 hours".

BumRushDaShow

(128,922 posts)
12. They are so brainwashed with their automatic, continually regurgitated talking points
Wed May 31, 2023, 09:39 AM
May 2023

that they forgot that THEY were "in charge".

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Fox News calls Rep. Norma...