Will Trump be charged with espionage?

[kentuck]

By simple retention of military classified documents, one could be charged with espionage. But, if espionage charges are brought, we might assume there is more evidence than simple possession of the documents? Not necessarily, but there is likely more evidence that we have not heard about.

Regardless if Trump is charged with espionage or not, the case of obstruction against him is very strong. By law, it could carry an even heavier sentence than espionage.

If it only takes a simple majority of the Grand Jury to indict, it is difficult to see how Trump is not indicted and charged from withholding documents from the US Government and lying about his possession of them.

It could happen sooner than we imagine.

[Deminpenn]

1. No, it unnecessarily complicates the stolen documents the case

that looks now to be nearly open and shut.

[pwb]

4. Isn't that the Same if

he sold the stolen documents? The two are related.

[sarcasmo]

2. Obstruction will be the easier conviction.

[Irish_Dem]

3. Everyone is too afraid of Trump to charge him with the big crimes he committed.

So everyone will tiptoe and just go with the smaller crimes.

[kentuck]

5. But obstruction can carry a 20-year sentence...

...and espionage only a 10-year sentence. Which is the smaller crime?

[Irish_Dem]

7. Trump would never get a 20 year sentence for obstruction. Never.

[kentuck]

8. Right. And I doubt he would get a 10-year sentence for espionage?

It will probably be adjudicated until he dies or the country runs out of patience.

[Irish_Dem]

9. Very unlikely he will get any jail time.

The goal appears to contain Trump's ability to damage the country,
but not to humiliate him or jail him.

So he won't be charged with his serious crimes.

Just the smaller ones and then give him a slap on the wrist.
And make it so he cannot run for office again.

[Kid Berwyn]

6. Crown Prince Bonesaw knew who to shake down.

How Saudi elite became five-star prisoners at the Riyadh Ritz-Carlton

Detention of more than 30 senior figures in hotel highlights how kingdom depends on tribal loyalty to secure royal family’s reign

Martin Chulov, Middle East correspondent
The Guardian, Nov. 6, 2017

At 11pm on Saturday, guests at the Ritz-Carlton hotel in Riyadh got a rude awakening. Businesspeople and consultants who were staying in one of Riyadh’s most opulent digs, along with diners and visitors, were all told to assemble in the lobby with their bags. No one knew why.

As guests made their way to buses to be taken to other hotels in the Saudi capital, senior officials were making plans for new arrivals who weren’t prepared for a night away from home, let alone a spell in a five-star hotel. They were soon to become the highest-profile prisoners in the modern kingdom’s history. And the most pampered.

From midnight, buses arrived in the sprawling complex disgorging princes, business leaders, other royals, their guards and their captors. The arrivals marked the start of an extraordinary episode that exposed the kingdom’s elite to rare public scrutiny and showed that, even when accused of high crime, the powerful maintain privileges.

By dawn on Sunday, more than 30 of Saudi Arabia’s most senior figures, among them blood relatives of senior rulers, were locked inside the hotel, accused of corruption. Their ignominious arrests were the talk of the country, and so too was the fact that they were far from a prison cell, where most citizens facing similar charges could expect to find themselves.

The arrests had been decreed by the monarch, King Salman, and carried out by his powerful son and heir, Mohammed bin Salman (MBS), who has committed to overturning most of the established order in his heady six months in office. But even for the ambitious crown prince, taking on the establishment to this extent was a risky step – and he needed to take precautions.

Continues…

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/nov/06/how-saudi-elite-became-five-star-prisoners-at-the-riyadh-ritz-carlton

Wow. What timing.

[republianmushroom]

10. The bigger question is, will trump be charged , period.

28 months and counting

[CrispyQ]

12. Republican leadership & Garland are both praying he dies, the sooner the better.

The media, not so much. I think they're hoping to have dueling court cases for the campaign season. Biden's impeachment trial vs Trump's obstruction/espionage trails.

[republianmushroom]

14. You could be very correct.

[getagrip_already]

11. I'd settle to know "will trump be charged"....

So far, no. And it's way past apologist deadlines.

[republianmushroom]

15. Yep

28 months and counting

[Runningdawg]

13. No. Even if he is charged with something, it won't be espionage. Thats a bridge too far for our DOJ.

[Mr. Ected]

16. He sure as hell better

Why even pretend we heed the rule of law if our leaders can violate the law with impunity? If the facts of the case justify the charge, DOJ had better follow through.

[GreenWave]

17. I'll settle for treason!