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(12,779 posts)marble falls
(58,848 posts)JHB
(37,181 posts)But it's how it was done in the country the MAGAts want "back."
yardwork
(62,050 posts)I'm not suggesting that Trump should be executed. I'm agreeing with your point that stealing nuclear and military secret documents used to be considered Bad, in the country these people say they want back.
dchill
(38,746 posts)But, you know, it's not. Not yet.
yardwork
(62,050 posts)He lost in 2020 and I can't imagine he would get MORE votes now. Assuming the election is fair, I don't think he can win.
I hope he wins the GOP nomination. Or, I hope he causes so much trouble that whoever they nominate can't win.
I hope he keeps running his mouth. He's driving people away from the Republican Party. Now it's up to us to win them over to the Democrats.
dchill
(38,746 posts)"Assuming the election is fair..." I'm old enough to remember when that would be a safe assumption.
*And the "news" media, of course.
yardwork
(62,050 posts)If Trump fades away, they'll find somebody worse next time.
Burn it down. The Republican Party is a threat to democracy. I want them to be destroyed by the monster they created
dchill
(38,746 posts)... legislation in many red states that practically guarantee a Republican victory in an election! Apparently there is no reason they should play by the rules.
JHB
(37,181 posts)Because he did.
Republicans are not trying to undermine and oust him. They're relying on us to do all the heavy lifting on that while they try to keep their heads down and not draw the ire of the Ahabs that run their party (i.e., the ideological big funders and the voting base).
yardwork
(62,050 posts)However, in answer to your question - yes, I was not surprised by Trump's level of support in 2020. Sitting presidents have a big advantage. First term presidents are usually re-elected.* He got more votes than before, but not enough. At this point, I doubt Trump would get as many votes again, but we're a long way off from Nov 2024.
* George HW Bush wasn't re-elected, for reasons that included his appearance to have broken his "no new taxes" pledge, and Ross Perot's candidacy.
* Jimmy Carter wasn't re-elected, partly because of poor media coverage, notably the Iran hostage crisis, which was televised literally every day.
Meadowoak
(5,662 posts)Beachnutt
(7,497 posts)President Biden would be in jail right now.
thomski64
(480 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(147,536 posts)Me too....
Enoki33
(1,595 posts)have opened a whole new category. Spies did, and do operate in the dark. This bigot betrays his country openly, and worst, he uses it blatantly as propaganda. He is possibly the single most dangerous person on earth.
Dave Bowman
(2,093 posts)Ironic that his unhinged followers see the "Deep State" 's doings everywhere except when it's right in their faces.
GreenWave
(7,303 posts)that person was thought of as a mass murderer (COVID lies). So why would he care about the lives of informants around the world?
dawn5651
(611 posts)FoxNewsSucks
(10,490 posts)usaf-vet
(6,398 posts)Look at his relationship with Putin and Saudi Arabia.
His motive is simply MONEY! MONEY! MONEY!
He is likely selling our security and our allies' security.
https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/aldrich-ames
https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/robert-hanssen
Hopefully, Trump eventually receives the same outcome.
Warpy
(111,837 posts)dealing with research documents at NASA and even I wasn't stupid enough to think about running off an extra copy and pocketing it.
If they don't want to throw a former president into the pokey, they need strict house arrest at the golf palace of his choice with electronic jamming and a visiting list restricted to his family. I don't care if his prison is lined with gilt and fake marble, as long as it's a prison.
republianmushroom
(14,710 posts)And were jailed when caught.
28 months and counting
NowISeetheLight
(3,943 posts)The good old days when they were locked up forever.
FakeNoose
(33,510 posts)Ummm, OK?
czarjak
(11,571 posts)DENVERPOPS
(9,130 posts)of the Rosenberg's on the Denver Post newspaper, front page.....
Cha
(299,384 posts)a different "media" now that tiptoes around the truth about trump.
Corporate Masters and shit.. imagine how Edward R Murrow & Walter Cronkite would treat this Putin Stooge.