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underpants

(183,670 posts)
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 03:54 PM Jun 2023

Biden wasn't VP when Hunter sent the WhatsApp message. 😳Wow!😳

Last night was the first time I’d seen this message even though I’d heard about it (it’s usually said to be messageS) for a while. My wife’s first comment was “Does anyone consider that he could have been lying?”

We were watching CNN and I don’t remember them mentioning the date.

I read this from Media Matters (below), the message was sent July 30, 2017. Joe was in his 6th month of what everyone thought would be his retirement.

Totally blew me away. Media Matters details the rightwing media’s coverage of this story and how even they let the date slip in from time to time.

https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-business/desperate-accusation-over-hunter-biden-text-right-wing-media-falsely-claim-joe-biden

However, The New York Times reports that one of the whistleblowers, IRS agent Gary Shapley, also told Congress that there was evidence some of Hunter Biden’s claims of his father’s support in his business dealings were really “wishful thinking.” Shapley quoted Hunter Biden business associate Rob Walker as having told investigators: “I certainly never was thinking at any time the V.P. was a part of anything we were doing.” CNN also reported that the second, unnamed whistleblower spoke with Congress, “saying prosecutors questioned whether they could be sure Hunter Biden was telling the truth that his father was actually in the room in the messages.”

Later in the program however, Varney delivered a monologue in which he repeated the false claim. “‘I am sitting here waiting for the call with my father’ — that was then-Vice President Joe Biden,” Varney declared. “We don't know if Hunter was actually sitting next to his father, but that was clearly a threat — clearly using the office of vice president to intimidate.”

Of course, this message could not have been “using the office of vice president to intimidate,” because that office was held at the time by then-Vice President Mike Pence.

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Biden wasn't VP when Hunter sent the WhatsApp message. 😳Wow!😳 (Original Post) underpants Jun 2023 OP
What I want to know abt Hunter Biden is why did Saudi Arabia give Jared Kushner $2 billion dollars? mahina Jun 2023 #1
Nicely put! The Unmitigated Gall Jun 2023 #5
+1 sheshe2 Jun 2023 #8
THIS Takket Jun 2023 #9
+4 Emile Jun 2023 #14
right ?! uponit7771 Jun 2023 #16
Me too Rebl2 Jun 2023 #19
+1 nt brer cat Jun 2023 #26
Who knew? Turbineguy Jun 2023 #2
Not me. underpants Jun 2023 #3
I've always read that the whistleblowers was fake news................... Lovie777 Jun 2023 #4
Conservative love to corrupt language and institutions. Caliman73 Jun 2023 #15
Republicans Lie. What more,does mass media need to know? How many times they cry wolf and Alexander Of Assyria Jun 2023 #20
They actually are worse than liars. LakeArenal Jun 2023 #27
Republicans Lie. What more,does mass media need to know? How many times they cry wolf and Alexander Of Assyria Jun 2023 #21
My uneducated guess SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2023 #6
My follow up to my wife underpants Jun 2023 #7
I guess I'm a tad more skeptical gratuitous Jun 2023 #10
Probably. He had a major drug problem at the time JohnSJ Jun 2023 #18
Hunter Biden never had a position in Obama's or Biden's administration exboyfil Jun 2023 #11
So... 2naSalit Jun 2023 #12
Remember when Trump's kids defrauded a charity and got a slap on the wrist Johonny Jun 2023 #13
Also, at that time was going through a major drug addiction problem, so there is a good likelihood JohnSJ Jun 2023 #17
Varney...lacking SS amulets....itching to do a Heil Hitler on air, not just at home. Alexander Of Assyria Jun 2023 #22
This isn't the text message that was clearly fake, is it? Beautiful Disaster Jun 2023 #23
The so called whistle-blower needs to be arrested and thrown in jail MichMan Jun 2023 #24
Karma is gonna bite them big time over this one and it's gonna leave a mark! Ford_Prefect Jun 2023 #25
Gary is a registered Republican and should be going to jail for lying under oath RAB910 Jun 2023 #28

mahina

(17,964 posts)
1. What I want to know abt Hunter Biden is why did Saudi Arabia give Jared Kushner $2 billion dollars?
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:03 PM
Jun 2023

Last edited Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:58 PM - Edit history (1)

Not mine but it is my point. Needs to be on bumper stickers for years.

Lovie777

(12,808 posts)
4. I've always read that the whistleblowers was fake news...................
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:12 PM
Jun 2023

supported by shithole's cult.

Caliman73

(11,766 posts)
15. Conservative love to corrupt language and institutions.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 05:21 PM
Jun 2023

Especially if that language or those institutions help to protect non-wealthy, non-powerful people.

A Whistleblower is a special class designation given to people who come forward to testify against corrupt or illegal practices. The secretary who witnesses a corrupt business deal, who at great personal risk to their career and safety testifies against the CEO of the major corporation. Daniel Ellsberg was a whistleblower. Anita Hill was a whistleblower.

For conservatives, they use the power of the word, but for their own nefarious purposes. They called Juanita Broderick a whistleblower, when it turns out she was either used, or was herself a political operative that was trying to take down Bill Clinton. These "whistleblowers" that they claim, have PROOF that Joe Biden personally palmed the billion dollar checks to bribe him, have not produced any evidence, nor themselves, where Anita Hill testified before Congress about how Clarence Thomas should not be a Supreme Court Justice. She was right!

Conservatives recently corrupted the Censure in the House of Representatives. Their farce with Adam Schiff moved the Censure from being a serious tool, used only for the most egregious situations, to a partisan hack tool to create a spectacle for right wing media.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
20. Republicans Lie. What more,does mass media need to know? How many times they cry wolf and
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 06:03 PM
Jun 2023

the pasture is empty when the village idiots of the mass media come running to see…nothing?

Republicans have learned to play on the evidence free battlefields of Twitter rather well…lack of ethics is helpful.

Has no one ever heard of this thing called Evidence? Hearsay…is not evidence…journalists need to take some law courses before stenographic knee jerk recording of the worthless lies.

LakeArenal

(29,042 posts)
27. They actually are worse than liars.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 06:55 PM
Jun 2023

They find a speck of some truth and exploit it and warp it so it looks like truth but a bit of research shows it’s not. Then they double down until the lie becomes truth.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
21. Republicans Lie. What more,does mass media need to know? How many times they cry wolf and
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 06:04 PM
Jun 2023

the pasture is empty when the village idiots of the mass media come running to see…nothing?

Doesn’t matter how many times the Republican boys cry wolf, the village idiots still come running on the chance there is a wolf. Artificial stupidity?

Republicans have learned to play on the evidence free battlefields of Twitter rather well…lack of ethics is helpful.

Has no one ever heard of this thing called Evidence? Hearsay…is not evidence…journalists need to take some law courses before stenographic knee jerk recording of the worthless lies.

underpants

(183,670 posts)
7. My follow up to my wife
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:34 PM
Jun 2023

“So, Hunter Biden is the worst person on earth we’re being told BUT in this instance he was telling the truth?!??”

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
10. I guess I'm a tad more skeptical
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:55 PM
Jun 2023

I have no idea where this post is from. I mean, people can watch a video of the defendant telling his violent mob that he will march with them down Pennsylvania Avenue to the Capitol on January 6, and all the budding Inspector Clouseaus in the media and on the Republican payroll can't quite figure out what that means. But a purported post on WhatsApp, and they know for a fact where it came from and who authored it.

exboyfil

(17,880 posts)
11. Hunter Biden never had a position in Obama's or Biden's administration
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 04:58 PM
Jun 2023

Nor did he have a position with either of Biden's VP or Presidential campaigns.

The same can't be said for Jared Kushner, Ivanka Trump, Donald Trump Jr., or Eric Trump.

Johonny

(21,214 posts)
13. Remember when Trump's kids defrauded a charity and got a slap on the wrist
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 05:01 PM
Jun 2023

and not a single Republican gave a crap?

JohnSJ

(92,776 posts)
17. Also, at that time was going through a major drug addiction problem, so there is a good likelihood
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 05:28 PM
Jun 2023

Joe Biden wasn’t even involved

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
22. Varney...lacking SS amulets....itching to do a Heil Hitler on air, not just at home.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 06:08 PM
Jun 2023

Hitler lovers saturate the airwaves of America and it’s not all right…has the entire nation forgotten about the lead up WW2, or has the corporate mass media triumphed in creating mass amnesia? Again.

 

Beautiful Disaster

(667 posts)
23. This isn't the text message that was clearly fake, is it?
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 06:10 PM
Jun 2023

The one using a photo of Hunter from 2022 despite supposedly being from 2017?

MichMan

(12,118 posts)
24. The so called whistle-blower needs to be arrested and thrown in jail
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 06:29 PM
Jun 2023

President Biden has consistently said he has never spoken with Hunter about any of his business dealings. Not once ever; period.

Anyone saying otherwise is a blatant liar.

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