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kpete

(72,174 posts)
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 08:51 AM Jul 2023

"The kindest person in the room is often the smartest."

Message of the year:

“How do you spot an idiot? Look for the person who is cruel. The kindest person in the room is often the smartest.” — Gov Pritzker

Bravo! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

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"The kindest person in the room is often the smartest." (Original Post) kpete Jul 2023 OP
K&R spanone Jul 2023 #1
That is a profound statement malaise Jul 2023 #2
the whole speech is great. mopinko Jul 2023 #3
THANKS kpete Jul 2023 #4
i just adore my gov. mopinko Jul 2023 #5
100% agree. Bluethroughu Jul 2023 #12
tho he's rich, his personal story is quite tragic. mopinko Jul 2023 #14
He embodies what an American businessman serving his country Bluethroughu Jul 2023 #19
I knew Penny NJCher Jul 2023 #34
Same! PortTack Jul 2023 #23
+1 Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2023 #43
KnR! That speech is epic! sarchasm Jul 2023 #6
This whole speech is kinda ableist. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2023 #7
how so? mopinko Jul 2023 #15
Because our culture has a very specific idea of what "smart" means, and it has little to do with WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2023 #24
are you saying Pritzker is responsible for Northwestern's firing action? NJCher Jul 2023 #35
. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2023 #36
no, studies done in general NJCher Jul 2023 #38
I've found, this is almost always right. The smartest people Meadowoak Jul 2023 #8
K&R. I love this speech. bronxiteforever Jul 2023 #9
I agree but too many believe the opposite IronLionZion Jul 2023 #10
Yup. "Nice guys come in last." That notion is at the root of Donald J. Trump. KPN Jul 2023 #18
Unfortunately, it is more than a 'notion' OldBaldy1701E Jul 2023 #51
So the smart guys need to learn to be smart asses SouthernDem4ever Jul 2023 #53
Oh, I agree completely. OldBaldy1701E Jul 2023 #55
Yep. Not sure about do anything, but do whatever is necessary to save the country and the earth. KPN Jul 2023 #57
Good correction. I( agree fullky. We Democrats are a good example as a whole sometimes. KPN Jul 2023 #56
High IQ or education doesn't always mean Smartest. Fla Dem Jul 2023 #11
Absolutely! KPN Jul 2023 #20
+1 n/t sammythecat Jul 2023 #49
Epic! Thanks for sharing! nt LittleGirl Jul 2023 #13
...or it could be that kindness is simply a commitment to keeping one's countenance...... jaxexpat Jul 2023 #16
This rings true. Same goes with talent and ego. Artcatt Jul 2023 #17
OMG! Love this. Joinfortmill Jul 2023 #21
I disagree. I know some very kind-hearted people who have low IQs. Liberty Belle Jul 2023 #22
+1 n/t sammythecat Jul 2023 #50
kpete................. Upthevibe Jul 2023 #25
Old souls CanonRay Jul 2023 #26
Humble brag Johnny2X2X Jul 2023 #27
HAHA, you ForgedCrank Jul 2023 #29
For me Johnny2X2X Jul 2023 #32
+1 llmart Jul 2023 #39
There are ForgedCrank Jul 2023 #28
And those with the least to say talk the most. twodogsbarking Jul 2023 #30
+1 llmart Jul 2023 #40
A great example of this is Joe. sellitman Jul 2023 #31
Joe is the.........BIG BOSS......What a gift to the U.S.A. and the ENTIRE WORLD!! Stuart G Jul 2023 #33
Robert Mercer is definitely a big time genius...and Bond/comic book villain. Lucky Luciano Jul 2023 #37
Albert Einstein was known to be very kind, at least in his later years, in NJ. pnwmom Jul 2023 #41
K&R Blue Owl Jul 2023 #42
Yes Faux pas Jul 2023 #44
This suggests that Wolfgang Pauli only entered rooms with lots of other Nobel Laureates. NNadir Jul 2023 #45
I wouldn't know. I have spent my life working to be the dumbest person in the room. NNadir Jul 2023 #46
Love my guv. 3catwoman3 Jul 2023 #47
Not always true, unfortunately Azathoth Jul 2023 #48
Disagree that being suspicious of unfamiliar things is evolution. Children often don't even betsuni Jul 2023 #52
Nah Showbizkid Jul 2023 #54

malaise

(270,973 posts)
2. That is a profound statement
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 09:00 AM
Jul 2023

The Slobfatherhas very low self esteem because he knows he knows nothing about anything but grifting and criminality - a con and a criminal.

mopinko

(70,760 posts)
5. i just adore my gov.
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 09:08 AM
Jul 2023

just a mensch.
he checks my #1 box for a pol- puts kids 1st. all else falls into place if we do that. he was doing that long before he was elected.
he’s the poster boy for- good rich guy.

Bluethroughu

(5,265 posts)
12. 100% agree.
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 09:40 AM
Jul 2023

He was fighting the bad guys before anyone was really paying attention.

My husband and I had come across an interview beteewn Pritzker and Rauner before either had ever discussed in public about a run for governor. As they discussed Illinois and its economics, they also discussed their personal business accomplishments. Pritzker could not contain his contempt for Rauner's business practices and ideology, and it was at that point that we became fans.

When he announced his run for governor against wreck it rauner, we moved to Illinois to knock on doors to spread the word on what we believed him to be, the next FDR, BUT BETTER, and I feel proud that he has lived up to that measure.

He's kicking ass here.

mopinko

(70,760 posts)
14. tho he's rich, his personal story is quite tragic.
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 09:52 AM
Jul 2023

iirc, he had to sue for his part of the family fortune after his mom died of alcoholism.

the colonel is ok, too. her company, tawani, has done some amazing projects in my hood. wonderful historical renos, and a restaurant/music venue in an old 6+1 that looks like something out of the golden age. unfortunately that project foundered under some bad management, but it think it will hang on anyway. had tough time in the plague tho.

and the whole family has made enormous gifts to chicago.
and i mean, they made their money in hotels. not like it’s the ge fortune.

Bluethroughu

(5,265 posts)
19. He embodies what an American businessman serving his country
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 10:11 AM
Jul 2023

By patrioticaly creating jobs and investing in community is about vs
Tearing down companies by loading them up with debt and dumping them like Rauner and Romney.

Big hearts go out to Governor Pritzker and his family, I'm glad he ran again. He's done so much for Illinois in a short time and even during the pandemic.

He's investing into this state, and it will excellerate IL upward, not only as one of the largest economies in the world, but full of innovation and equality forward.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,759 posts)
24. Because our culture has a very specific idea of what "smart" means, and it has little to do with
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 10:33 AM
Jul 2023

what a person's morals are. As well, Pritzker's language edges into eugenics, implying that some people are "more evolved" because of the way they live their lives. Linking intelligence and morality, especially in a speech given at a highly selective and insular university, simply reifies the unscientific idea that there is a link between intelligence and kindness, two social constructs.

It resonates because it's a populist idea: "We are good and so must be smart" feels really great. "We are smart and so must be good" leads to drone strikes and job cuts. "They are bad and so must be unintelligent" also feels great, and leads to no solutions. "They are unintelligent and so must be bad" leads to dehumanization.

Northwestern, a month after this speech, fired someone who was widely regarded as a "good" and "deeply caring" individual, for overseeing a sports program rife with hazing and humiliation, FWIW. We can think of dozens of examples that upend Pritzker's thesis. It's a feel-good address for commencement, but it's lacking in rigor.

NJCher

(36,170 posts)
35. are you saying Pritzker is responsible for Northwestern's firing action?
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 11:47 AM
Jul 2023
the unscientific idea that there is a link between intelligence and kindness, two social constructs.

I used to work with honors students in a university's gifted program and we (meaning the director and staff) had plenty of research on the correlation with IQ and interest/activity with social justice and other types of social awareness. There is such a correlation.

What surprised me about these students is they thought nothing of starting some sort of helpful action on their own. It might be a one-shot or it might be a more organized, lasting activity.

They were quite capable of organizing and carrying out such efforts.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,759 posts)
36. .
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 12:25 PM
Jul 2023
are you saying Pritzker is responsible for Northwestern's firing action?
No.

I used to work with honors students in a university's gifted program and we (meaning the director and staff) had plenty of research on the correlation with IQ and interest/activity with social justice and other types of social awareness. There is such a correlation.
Well, of course those things correlate: IQ (social construct valued by a gifted program) and interest (reported activity) of kids expected to be well-rounded both to get into a good school and uphold the system that created them are going to be found to correlate by an institution that benefits from gifted kids that perform the markers of being good people.

NJCher

(36,170 posts)
38. no, studies done in general
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 05:58 PM
Jul 2023

I'm sorry if you misunderstood me.

There are many studies showing that IQ and caring, kindness, etc. correlate.

Just for your information "of course" does not very often apply. In working with studies for decades it is my observation that it's very difficult to attain a correlation.

I was only using the students in the program in which I worked as an example. They were not the study.

Meadowoak

(5,668 posts)
8. I've found, this is almost always right. The smartest people
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 09:26 AM
Jul 2023

Are the kindest. While the meanest and cruelest are the least intelligent.

IronLionZion

(45,914 posts)
10. I agree but too many believe the opposite
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 09:34 AM
Jul 2023

they think kindness is proof that someone is stupid and weak.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,393 posts)
51. Unfortunately, it is more than a 'notion'
Thu Jul 13, 2023, 07:21 AM
Jul 2023

There are examples of the nice guy finishing last all around us. So, although it sounds like some business jargon, it is also the truth.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,393 posts)
55. Oh, I agree completely.
Thu Jul 13, 2023, 11:18 AM
Jul 2023

It is the nice, smart ones who are (more and more) realizing that being nice to these democracy destroyers is getting us nowhere. Neither is 'taking the high road'. Will enough learn it so that it happens? We will see.

KPN

(15,741 posts)
57. Yep. Not sure about do anything, but do whatever is necessary to save the country and the earth.
Thu Jul 13, 2023, 01:50 PM
Jul 2023

I'm more and more convinced that we underestimate the speed at which mass extinction could be upon us. At 72+, I am no longer absolutely certain that I won't live long enough to see it. As an example. in the course of my career, I had the opportunity to work in and observe first-hand wildfire during the summer fire season. My career started in the early 70s. I have never experienced the catastrophic scope and effect of wildfire we've seen repeatedly and globally in the past 10 years.

My view: We better hurry up!

Fla Dem

(24,300 posts)
11. High IQ or education doesn't always mean Smartest.
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 09:37 AM
Jul 2023

Some of the nicest people I've known are ones without higher education. They are aware of their surroundings and have empathy for others. They have a kindness of spirit.

Some of the less pleasant, less kind people I've known or met were highly educated but totally unaware of their surroundings and lacking any interest in those around them.

Smart comes in many different forms.

jaxexpat

(7,087 posts)
16. ...or it could be that kindness is simply a commitment to keeping one's countenance......
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 10:02 AM
Jul 2023

and holding one's tongue, something so many "smart" people find impossible.

Liberty Belle

(9,560 posts)
22. I disagree. I know some very kind-hearted people who have low IQs.
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 10:21 AM
Jul 2023

Even a simple-minded person can be sweet and giving.

That said,when a not-so-bright person gets fed a diet of hateful propaganda, they lack the mental tools needed to be critical readers, so may be more apt to be swayed by demigods like Trump than a highly intelilgent person.

But I've personally known some very sweet, loving, generous people who are not the brightest bulbs mentally.

Let's not spread a false and harmful stereotype that all less intelligent people are cruel.

Upthevibe

(8,265 posts)
25. kpete.................
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 10:34 AM
Jul 2023

Thank you for this post.

I watched this part of his speech (I think here on DU) and was very moved.

Johnny2X2X

(19,734 posts)
27. Humble brag
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 10:41 AM
Jul 2023

So, I work with some of the most talented aerospace engineers in the world. Elite educations, elite careers. I am well aware that I am often the least intelligent person in the room, but I do make up for it with personality.

And I think there's some truth to this, there are elite engineers here, and then there are legendary ones, the ones who NASA literally calls when they can't figure something out. Those guys are without fail soft spoken, reserved, and measured in their words. They're almost always kind and patient too.

ForgedCrank

(1,836 posts)
29. HAHA, you
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 10:47 AM
Jul 2023

stole my main mode of operation. Or did I steal yours?

"I am well aware that I am often the least intelligent person in the room"

That's how I do it, fake it 'til I make it. Some days I wish I were smarter than I really am. The best I can do is try to be civil and make every interaction as pleasant as I can without abandoning my convictions.

Johnny2X2X

(19,734 posts)
32. For me
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 11:25 AM
Jul 2023

The one statement that rings true for my career is, "In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king." And I mean this in relation to people skills. So yeah, a lot of socially awkward genius engineers here, but I have a good skill to include people in activities and actively seek opinions of those who are slow to give them.

llmart

(15,685 posts)
39. +1
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 06:11 PM
Jul 2023

My son is a NASA engineer and he is all of those things you mention - soft spoken, reserved and measured in his speech. He is extremely kind too. I saw all of that in him when he was growing up. He rarely ever brags about himself or mentions what he does for a living unless he's asked.

ForgedCrank

(1,836 posts)
28. There are
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 10:44 AM
Jul 2023

so many that could learn from this very wise advice.
Thinking and questioning everything is the first step.
There is no need to be vile and hate, it only serves to inflame and fester.

Stuart G

(38,555 posts)
33. Joe is the.........BIG BOSS......What a gift to the U.S.A. and the ENTIRE WORLD!!
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 11:30 AM
Jul 2023

Incredible Gift!!!.......A TOTALLY KIND PERSON IN CHARGE OF OUR COUNTRY AND THE WORLD...

pnwmom

(109,069 posts)
41. Albert Einstein was known to be very kind, at least in his later years, in NJ.
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 06:41 PM
Jul 2023

And he was a very smart man.

 

NNadir

(33,642 posts)
45. This suggests that Wolfgang Pauli only entered rooms with lots of other Nobel Laureates.
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 09:32 PM
Jul 2023

I'm not entirely sure though that he could find many rooms in which he was not the smartest person in it.

 

NNadir

(33,642 posts)
46. I wouldn't know. I have spent my life working to be the dumbest person in the room.
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 09:34 PM
Jul 2023

I will say that I am often rather nasty too.

This is however true; I am happiest when I'm the dumbest person in the room.

Azathoth

(4,613 posts)
48. Not always true, unfortunately
Wed Jul 12, 2023, 10:39 PM
Jul 2023

The people in history who achieved the greatest evils were all quite smart. Famously, the captured Nazi leadership were given IQ tests at Nuremberg and they all scored exceptionally high (Goring was in the actual 140 genius range, and that was after years of rampant drug addiction).

Intelligence merely enables people to be more effective at whatever they already are. You don't have to be smart to be kind and empathetic.

betsuni

(26,343 posts)
52. Disagree that being suspicious of unfamiliar things is evolution. Children often don't even
Thu Jul 13, 2023, 07:59 AM
Jul 2023

notice differences until they learn to do so according to their culture, it's not "animal instinct." There wouldn't be the incredible variety of human cultures throughout history if that were true, whereas other animals whose behaviors are all instincts are pretty much the same wherever they are except for adaptations to environments, some learned behaviors like using tools (monkeys using branches for ants-on-a-stick or otters and birds using rocks to open delicious shellfish).

Didn't really care for this. But then, I'm an idiot and like an animal all I think about is food.

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