Turn on Ed Shultz right fuggin' now - the Petraeus scandal all started

[malaise]

with an attempt to smear the President - coming up after the break!!

Butter anyone????

&feature=related

[still_one]

1. I suspected that, especially since they went to cantor and no one else. What slime

[2naSalit]

3. I have to wait

until it finishes the "on air" time slot then I can watch online. I live way out in the boonies and have no TeeVee. But I have been anxiously waiting to watch it all day, after that I can watch Maddow. They are the most realistic and honest journalists on the tube anymore... even though I watch online.

Thanks for the heads up.

[TeeYiYi]

19. Where do you watch online?...

I'm in the boonies too...no tv. I listen to Ed and Rachel on TuneIn Radio but I'd like to find a reliable online video resource...

TYY

[Cobalt Violet]

27. I watch here

http://www.watchfomny.com/Video/USA/03/msnbc/msnbc-live.htm


link 2 works for me.

[gateley]

28. Try this:

http://blog.livenewschat.tv/

I used to stream MSNBC at work until they told me to knock it off. And I can't stream on my iPad so I can't double check it for you, but you should be able to find it from this page.

[donco]

29. try this link

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45755822/ns/msnbc_tv-the_ed_show/#49813953

[TeeYiYi]

33. Thank you Cobalt Violet, gateway and donco. Links much appreciated! …nt

TYY

[2naSalit]

46. News worth watching...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45755822/ns/msnbc-the_ed_show/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/

And sometime The News Hour on PBS.org

Enjoy

[TeeYiYi]

48. Thank you 2naSalit...

I usually get by pretty well with justintv or dishonline and a slingbox, but happy to have the new links to msnbc, etc..

TYY

[malaise]

5. That's why Joe Scum is so visibly upset

and bawling about privacy issues because everyone involved is a ReTHUG and many have links to Rove and Rmoney.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

51. It back-fired

[MoonRiver]

65. Exactly! Cantor but not POTUS?

Give me a break.

[sasha031]

2. I can't keep my eyes off your kitty video

[malaise]

4. They are so cute

I found it on the 'internets'

[hrmjustin]

6. I love them too. I have 5 cats myself.

[BeHereNow]

9. Had 5, but a coyote got my old man...Spider

Spider was the King of the Cats-
It's funny how the other cats seem to sense my grief and try
to compensate.

Cats are the most spiritual creatures on the planet, IMO.

And gymnastics?
Hell, I wish I could fly!
How do they
DO that anyway?

BHN

[hrmjustin]

13. I remember My 2 year old cat died on the living room table and the other cats stayed with her for...

... some time. They are amazing creatures.

[BeHereNow]

17. Yes, they are amazing creatures that too many take for granted.

I could never trust a person who didn't love cats.
They seem to have evolved among us with the perfect balance of
independence and devotion-
And someone please tell me,
HOW is it possible for any creature to jump seven feet in the air
and cross a gate only to land, with perfect balance, on it's invisible target on the other side?
Amazing just doesn't cover it IMO!
BHN

[Skittles]

23. my cat Clancy is supposedly 80 years old in human years

yet he can still leap 6 times his height? they are indeed amazing

[BeHereNow]

26. Skittles, what is the computation for cat years?

I know for dogs is 7?
Never knew what the kitteh ratio was-

And yes, 6 times his height is AMAZING.
I firmly believe the reason the coyote got my Spider
was because he could no longer do that- hip problems and all.
He did get his licks in though- I found plenty of coyote fur at the scene of the murder.

BHN

[Skittles]

35. I used this!

http://www.calculatorcat.com/cats/cat-years.phtml

[BeHereNow]

39. Oh man, I feel so guilty now...

Knowing that a cat's life expectancy doubles if they are kept indoors.

Spider liked to do his "business" in private- in the 13 years he was my buddy,
I NEVER, not ONCE, saw him "go."

He always excused himself around 3 or 4 AM to go do his business.
He always stayed in our fenced yard.

He was SMART.

He always came back within 15 minutes.
Ready to be snuggled and tucked back in to the bed next to me.

And then, he did not. That fateful night.

Mystery to me is WHY is he left the yard.

My neighbor, two yards away, found him, or what was left of him...

How I miss him.
He was the COOLEST cat EVER!
BHN

[Skittles]

41. so sorry BHN

I had a cat named Spider too (named after that "spider mark" on the forehead), now long gone

[BeHereNow]

43. Thanks Skittles, for your condolences.

We are so fortunate to have the love of any fur person-
It is so devastating when we lose them.
Unspeakable grief.
I know.

BHN

[BeHereNow]

20. Two years old? WTH?

That is a very early death for a cat-
What the heck happened?



So sorry for your loss...

BHN

[hrmjustin]

49. She had a heart condition.

[Honeycombe8]

10. They're TOO CUTE! Animal Planet has a show called "Too Cute." Each show...

has several groups of either puppies or kittens. It follows each group from birth through toddler stage. And the title is true. They're all TOO CUTE!

[NCarolinawoman]

21. That was one of the programs I watched to get away from politics.

[OneGrassRoot]

8. Same here...lolol

malaise, you're a trip!

[BeHereNow]

12. A great trip! The Malaise.

One of my all time favorite DUers.
Hands down.

BHN

[malaise]

56. Back at you

[malaise]

55. LOL

Love you back sis

[eomer]

7. Details?

The "after the break" story must be done by now, did it deliver how "the Petraeus scandal all started with an attempt to smear the President"?

[Ruby the Liberal]

11. Didn't see Ed's segment, but the story is that the FBI guy

that Jill Kelley reached out to about the Fatal Attraction emails (the guy who sent her shirtless pics of himself) is a total RW nut job. FBI pulled him off the case (and cut him out of the updates) because he was too 'close and personal' to it. Fearing that there was going to be a coverup, he fancied himself the Bob Woodward/Carl Bernstein of 2012 and took the scoop to a RW Rep from Washington State and Eric Cantor because he wanted the information public before the election and didn't think the FBI was going to continue to pursue it.

Now, its all kind of blowing up in his face as everyone within spitting distance is being shown to be a lunatic of the highest order, or corrupt, or just plain morally bankrupt. Now a second general (Allen) has had his confirmation hearing put on hold, general Petraeus has lost his career, and 4+ families have been upended.

All because RWNJ thought he had the "goods" on the administration.

Convoluted enough?

Edit - here is a better explanation: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021804759

[Indpndnt]

16. That's a very straightforward explanation. Nicely done!

[Barack_America]

18. He's going to end up on a private flight to nowhere. nt

[still_one]

24. I think you did a great job of explaining it

[nobodyspecial]

25. "Goods on the administration."

Obama had nothing to do with it and no knowledge of it.

[Ruby the Liberal]

38. Yep.

May have worded it badly - so I googled it. Actual quote about the motivation here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021811290#post37

[gateley]

31. "Fearing" that there was going to be a cover up, or praying for it?

[Ruby the Liberal]

37. Last story I saw earlier quoted

a naturally 'unnamed FBI source' that said he went to R-WA (Green River guy) and Cantor out of frustration - because he was cut off from the updates, he thought they weren't pursuing it. As we know now (or as they are telling us), both Broadwell and Petraeus were questioned in Sept/Oct about this, but as RWNJ didn't know that, he leaked because he thought he had the October Surprise.

The word used in the quote was that these actions outside of protocol was due to his "worldview".

I googled "worldview + Cantor" and think it was this NYT article:

Ms. Kelley, a volunteer with wounded veterans and military families, brought her complaint to a rank-and-file agent she knew from a previous encounter with the F.B.I. office, the official also said. That agent, who had previously pursued a friendship with Ms. Kelley and had earlier sent her shirtless photographs of himself, was “just a conduit” for the complaint, he said. He had no training in cybercrime, was not part of the cyber squad handling the case and was never assigned to the investigation.

But the agent, who was not identified, continued to “nose around” about the case, and eventually his superiors “told him to stay the hell away from it, and he was not invited to briefings,” the official said. The Wall Street Journal first reported on Monday night that the agent had been barred from the case.

Later, the agent became convinced — incorrectly, the official said — that the case had stalled. Because of his “worldview,” as the official put it, he suspected a politically motivated cover-up to protect President Obama. The agent alerted Eric Cantor, the House majority leader, who called the F.B.I. director, Robert S. Mueller III, on Oct. 31 to tell him of the agent’s concerns.

The official said the agent’s self-described “whistle-blowing” was “a little embarrassing” but had no effect on the investigation.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/13/us/timeline-shows-fbi-discovered-petraeus-affair-in-summer.html?hp&_r=0

[eomer]

54. Thanks! (eom)

[malaise]

57. Yours is pretty good

but remember the Broadwell woman has that photo with Rove which he posted on Twitter.

[Ruby the Liberal]

61. I filed her under "morally bankrupt"

[alcibiades_mystery]

60. He was NOT pulled off the case because he was NEVER ON THE CASE

He was simply the person who alerted the FBI Tampa office to the situation. He was never assigned any formal role in the investigation itself.

Think of it this way:

A beat cop notices that there are a lot of coming and goings to a particular house on his beat, and suspects that it may be drug house.

The beat cop reports this at a morning meeting, and his sergeant contacts the vice squad, who have a special drug task force for that neighborhood.

The investigation begins among the drug task force. The beat cop, while "initiating" the investigation, has no formal role in the investigation: he is still a beat cop and has not been reassigned to the drug task force.

The drug task force is investigating separately.

The beat cop cannot be "pulled" from the investigation, because he was never on it. That's the story with shirtless FBI employee. He reported a suspicious thing to relevant personnel within the Bureau, but had no formal role in the investigation.

[Ruby the Liberal]

62. Shorthand

See the link in my post above that I was paraphrasing from. They stopped allowing him to get updates on the case. Maybe "cut him off from the information flow" fits better?

[alcibiades_mystery]

63. Yeah, that's a good one

I like your description!

The upshot, of course, is that the dude was a meddling pain in the ass. Imagine having to be told to stop meddling by somebody in your own FBI office!

[Ruby the Liberal]

68. And that meddling pain in the ass

thought he was going to take down the Obama administration with his super-secret knowledge. Little did he know he was unraveling the GOP at the top of the military.

[coalition_unwilling]

14. Cute kitties! :) - n/t

[malaise]

66. They are unraveling this ReTHUG yarn

[spanone]

15. k&r...

[BeHereNow]

22. Back to the original topic...sorry, got distracted by the kittehs.

I'm not surprised at all that the whole thing was orchestrated to
undermine the President-
What PISSES me off is the fact that, we, the people, PAID for
their miscreant behavior!
BHN

[aletier_v]

30. New Theory - Debt-ridden Twins circling Patreaus like sharks

and heroine Paula battling them away from their prey.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

32. Digging around for classified secrets to sell?

I'm still trying to figure out why the Kelleys would go millions into debt to entertain military big wigs and what could possibly be in it for them.

[aletier_v]

34. cause n effect

Did they go into debt to meet bigwigs...

or did they meet bigwigs because they were in debt?

Was Patraeus trading favors via "contacts" and "contracts" to keep them quiet?

[malaise]

58. I don't know where I read that they were involved in some military charity

I'm betting it was one of those that collected money for injured vets and stole it.

[robinlynne]

36. k&r. and I want to find this thread again.

[lonestarnot]

40. Have to wait for the rerun. Thanks for those cute kitties.

[ProudProgressiveNow]

42. What a soap opera...

[nadinbrzezinski]

44. This is a hell of a soap opera

That none could peddle as fiction, but we could in the currents affairs section...amazing.

[BeHereNow]

45. I can't wait for the Lifetime movie!

BHN

[ThoughtCriminal]

47. I think "Plan X" is getting a little out of control now...

Was this all cleared with the Central Committee?

[malaise]

59. No where is Kurovski when I need him

[rhett o rick]

50. The Repubs are looking for a way to impeach Pres Obama. nm

[KauaiK]

52. I hope this leads to Cantor's ouster!!

[StrictlyRockers]

53. I love DU! Thanks, malaise! n/t

[malaise]

67. We love DU

[deutsey]

64. Not a word about this on CBS This Morning

and they dedicated a large portion of the show to the scandal.

Not that I'm surprised.

[Blue_In_AK]

69. I've probably missed some things while I'm down here playing with my grand kids,

but is there any connection between this scandal and the confusion following Benghazi? I SO want some ammo to shut up my FB friend who won't let the Benghazi thing go. Could the CIA under Petraeus have purposefully given confusing or misleading information about what happened there?

[AntiFascist]

70. Broadwell gave out classified information during a speech...

that the CIA was holding prisoners (defying a Presidential order) at the Benghazi site which ultimately led to the attack. The cover story is now that this information was based on a false Fox news report, and the CIA is denying that there is any truth to this. Meanwhile, the FBI is thoroughly searching Broadwell's home and has found a substantial amount of classified documents that she should not have been in her possession. Also, Petraeus is now resigned because of his affair with Broadwell. Obviously, this is about much more than just an affair.

[Blue_In_AK]

72. At first I thought it was just about an affair,

but the more that's revealed, the more it seems like we've just scratched the surface.

[malaise]

71. Broadwell has also been photographed with Rove

Everyone in the scandal is a ReTHUG and many are wondering if it's not linked to the so called planned October surprise.
Mother Nature had other plans.

[Blue_In_AK]

73. Yeah, my few right-wing friends are clinging to this thing

like it's a fucking lifeboat.

[malaise]

74. Here's a good link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021790354

[Blue_In_AK]

75. Thanks.

.