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Quixote1818

(28,925 posts)
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 05:53 PM Jul 2023

Poll - Electric Vehicle ownership now or in the future

I'm thinking about getting an EV or Hybrid in a year or two. Curious if and when people on DU are considering a EV. If you have one, let us know what kind and if you like it or not. Or what the biggest positives and negatives are.


Will be taking suggestions to add to the poll for the first 10 minutes after I launch this.


104 votes, 6 passes | Time left: Unlimited
I already own an EV
19 (18%)
I already own a hybrid
16 (15%)
I am waiting for my current car to fall apart then I will get an EV or Hybrid
29 (28%)
I'm waiting for more EV charging infrastructure
4 (4%)
I'm waiting for EV's to have better batteries with longer range
5 (5%)
I haven't looked into them enough to have an opinion but am open to looking at them
2 (2%)
Waiting for the costs to come down more
13 (13%)
I won't ever buy an EV unless I am forced to
14 (13%)
I already own a Plug-in Hybrid (PHEV)
2 (2%)
Already ordered one but it hasn't been delivered
0 (0%)
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Poll - Electric Vehicle ownership now or in the future (Original Post) Quixote1818 Jul 2023 OP
Clarification. I own an EV in the form of a plug-in hybrid Silent3 Jul 2023 #1
Can you suggest the best way for me to title that in this poll? Thanks Quixote1818 Jul 2023 #3
Plug-in Hybrid (PHEV) n/t Silent3 Jul 2023 #4
Added. nt Quixote1818 Jul 2023 #6
Thanks! I changed my vote to match n/t Silent3 Jul 2023 #10
Would, but my current auto will last longer than me. marybourg Jul 2023 #2
I fully understand. nt Quixote1818 Jul 2023 #11
Yep, I'm in that car pool too Attilatheblond Jul 2023 #13
Yep, me too. We have a 2021 Nissan Sentra Mr.Bill Jul 2023 #22
We have that car, also, and I just love it. Like you, we don't put lots of miles on it, being old CTyankee Jul 2023 #32
This is our third Sentra. Mr.Bill Jul 2023 #44
Category for ordered not yet delivered? NoMoreRepugs Jul 2023 #5
Added. That fills up all the options. thanks Quixote1818 Jul 2023 #9
Hopefully they work out the issues madville Jul 2023 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author Silent3 Jul 2023 #7
I have a Prius and been getting Tree Lady Jul 2023 #8
I'm thinking about getting a Prius after my current Honda dies. It has 280,000 miles Quixote1818 Jul 2023 #15
I am lucky my car is 5 yrs old Tree Lady Jul 2023 #19
I realized few months ago Tree Lady Mar 4 #62
Just crossed 220,000 miles on my dobleremolque Jul 2023 #20
Wow nice! I've heard they don't have a lot of issues. nt Quixote1818 Jul 2023 #23
I'm driving my second Prius Yellowdog-1966 Mar 4 #61
BMW iX dmoyer Jul 2023 #12
I would want a plug-in hybrid. Igel Jul 2023 #14
Good info. nt Quixote1818 Jul 2023 #16
Hybrids are more convenient flamingdem Jul 2023 #17
I have a 2012 Leaf Cadfael Jul 2023 #18
Bought a used Tesla. bluestateboomer Jul 2023 #21
We owned 2 Honda Hybrids 2013ish time frame,,,, KarenS Jul 2023 #24
Passed since I didn't see an option that fit me DetroitLegalBeagle Jul 2023 #25
I won't buy one, at least not for now Zeitghost Jul 2023 #26
Giving my 2012 Prius to my daughter when she turns 16 NickB79 Jul 2023 #27
We just bought a brand new electric Audi. CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2023 #28
EVs would limit me too much jmowreader Jul 2023 #29
If I get a next car, it will be electric. marble falls Jul 2023 #30
I own two PHEVs powered from my rooftop. Thunderbeast Jul 2023 #31
I own a plug-in hybrid, but until the infrastructure becomes widely available, and the costs come JohnSJ Jul 2023 #33
Prices will have to come down Texasgal Jul 2023 #34
Waiting for solid state batteries Martin Eden Jul 2023 #35
Sounds like a good plan. I've heard solid state will be much, much better and better for the Quixote1818 Jul 2023 #47
I'm on my 2nd Tesla. beaglelover Jul 2023 #36
I'm done with car payments. roamer65 Jul 2023 #37
How about including this choice: Trailrider1951 Jul 2023 #38
Hoping the solid state battery Toyota is developing comes soon, today's tech way overpriced Shanti Shanti Shanti Jul 2023 #39
Been driving electric since 2011, never going back. tinrobot Jul 2023 #40
We have a Honda Civic hybrid from 2005 Bettie Jul 2023 #41
Bought a 2 year old Zero SR six weeks ago. yowzayowzayowza Jul 2023 #42
nice! Celerity Jul 2023 #45
Battery enuf for a week of commuting or ... yowzayowzayowza Jul 2023 #55
I just got a Lexus RX350h in May. I love it. Raftergirl Jul 2023 #43
nice looking car 🖤 Celerity Jul 2023 #46
That's the NX. They look alike except the RX is bigger and the interior is different. Raftergirl Jul 2023 #48
ah, correct, I did not see the RX on the website (it wasn't listed under electric) but now see why Celerity Jul 2023 #50
I won't ever buy one, period. Iggo Jul 2023 #49
2007 Prius, 2012 Volt, 2023 Tesla Model 3. CoopersDad Jul 2023 #51
Will Look Into RobinA Jul 2023 #52
Five Years NowISeetheLight Jul 2023 #53
Probably won't get a hybrid or EV as we just bought a 2018 Renault Clio GoneOffShore Jul 2023 #54
Unless finances change ... tapper Jul 2023 #56
I have a 2014 Toyota Camry madville Jul 2023 #58
I hate cars. All of them. hunter Jul 2023 #59
Me too. Unfortunately to advocate for public transit and sustainable planning... CoopersDad Aug 2023 #60

Silent3

(15,174 posts)
1. Clarification. I own an EV in the form of a plug-in hybrid
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 05:57 PM
Jul 2023

I think this warrants a separate category from regular hybrids because the plug-in capacity, albeit with a limited mileage range compared to a full EV, means that 95+% of the time my car functions as a fully electric vehicle, typically going many, many months between trips to a gas station.

Attilatheblond

(2,147 posts)
13. Yep, I'm in that car pool too
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 06:11 PM
Jul 2023

Thought I was gonna have to replace battery in my van's 15 year old key fob cuz I heard beeping. Turned out the beeping was from my 6 month old CO2 alarm in the house. The key fob, and the van are both fine. Only vehicle I have so it's not like it doesn't get used.

That van is gonna bury my old ass.

Mr.Bill

(24,262 posts)
22. Yep, me too. We have a 2021 Nissan Sentra
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 06:22 PM
Jul 2023

that gets about 40 mpg and we don't put many miles on a car, being retired. I'm sure it will last until we are ready to stop driving.

CTyankee

(63,899 posts)
32. We have that car, also, and I just love it. Like you, we don't put lots of miles on it, being old
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 08:18 PM
Jul 2023

and not driving it too much. It's a great car. We're almost at the end of our 3 year lease and I had the oil changed exactly once (because I was scared not to).

Mr.Bill

(24,262 posts)
44. This is our third Sentra.
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 09:44 PM
Jul 2023

We leased a 2015 and a 2018. We bought the 2021 and intend it to be our forever car. We really like it, too. The 2021 is a lot bigger than the first two were, and has more safety features. The smart cruise control is fantastic. Very comfortable car also.

madville

(7,408 posts)
57. Hopefully they work out the issues
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 06:53 PM
Jul 2023

By the time you get yours. I like reading about EVs and I follow a Lyriq page, the latest software update has bricked a bunch of cars requiring them to get towed to the dealer, also the 12V battery drain that makes the car inaccessible requiring someone to crawl through the trunk (it has a manual key) into the car to get to the hood latch so the 12v battery can be accessed.

It’s brand new so some issues are not surprising, still a neat car.

Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Quixote1818

(28,925 posts)
15. I'm thinking about getting a Prius after my current Honda dies. It has 280,000 miles
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 06:13 PM
Jul 2023

so getting close.

Tree Lady

(11,440 posts)
19. I am lucky my car is 5 yrs old
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 06:20 PM
Jul 2023

51,000 miles and runs great. I have a friend with prius that gets less mileage.

Tree Lady

(11,440 posts)
62. I realized few months ago
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 01:33 AM
Mar 4

it was because my tires were almost bald, as soon as I got all season new tires gas mileage went down to 50.

To be honest I had no idea about why until I got instructed by hubby on traction.

dobleremolque

(489 posts)
20. Just crossed 220,000 miles on my
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 06:20 PM
Jul 2023

Prius hybrid. Replaced the traction battery bank at 183,000 miles. That cost around $4,000, so I have to factor that into the ownership expense. Until this one just refuses to go another inch, I have no plans to replace it.

Yellowdog-1966

(34 posts)
61. I'm driving my second Prius
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 12:30 AM
Mar 4

First one was a 2008 and I got it close 60 mpg. Spouse wanted a Hyundai...35mpg, ended up getting totaled. I went and bought a 2014 Prius and getting around 60 mpg.

Until they figure out how to get more miles from battery only, Hybrid is the best way to go.

I have noticed some new cars state they are Hybrid, but they put in a smaller engine and still only get 35 mpg.

Igel

(35,293 posts)
14. I would want a plug-in hybrid.
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 06:12 PM
Jul 2023

EV for most of my trips. Making for a much, *much* smaller battery--fewer rare earth metals, much less weight--meaning a much smaller carbon footprint.

With reduced overall mass gas mileage is much better. Or, even better, maybe there'll be one that uses hydrogen.

ICE for longer trips. I make those every few months, why have a huge expensive battery for something I need once in August, November, January, March, May?

I think the market would go with these, whatever those into C&C decide the market shall want.

flamingdem

(39,311 posts)
17. Hybrids are more convenient
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 06:14 PM
Jul 2023

if you live in a multifamily building with no where to charge.

In general it feels bad to buy anything but a hybrid or EV with the world boiling as it is.

Cadfael

(1,296 posts)
18. I have a 2012 Leaf
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 06:18 PM
Jul 2023

I absolutely love it, but the battery is holding charge less and less. I only drive short distances but it’s getting to the point where I will have to either replace the battery or the vehicle. I am definitely planning on an EV as my next vehicle eventually.

bluestateboomer

(505 posts)
21. Bought a used Tesla.
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 06:21 PM
Jul 2023

Got the car just before Elon went on his crazy streak. I am enjoying the driving. Used to have several Prius's (Priai?) For me the hybrid was the gateway drug to an EV.

KarenS

(4,068 posts)
24. We owned 2 Honda Hybrids 2013ish time frame,,,,
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 06:33 PM
Jul 2023

A Honda Insight and a Honda CR-Z,,,,, loved them,,,, but eventually traded them in for a traditional gas Civic,,,, that little CR-Z was my favorite car ever.

Since then I have given up driving (old age and bad eyesight) We now have just one Honda HR-V traditional and it is in very good shape and we don't go far anymore,,,, so we will probably never jump on the electric vehicle bandwagon again.

We traded in the hybrids because of the cost of replacing one of those batteries,,,,

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,919 posts)
25. Passed since I didn't see an option that fit me
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 06:50 PM
Jul 2023

I'm not specifically going to look for a hybrid or EV or limit my choices to one, but I am also not going to exclude them. When it comes time to look for a new vehicle and if a hybrid or ev matches what I am looking for, then great. If not, then oh well. Practicality, price, and aesthetics take precedence and both myself and my wife are not fans of how many of them look currently.

Zeitghost

(3,855 posts)
26. I won't buy one, at least not for now
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 07:04 PM
Jul 2023

They simply do not suit my lifestyle. I'm spontaneous and I drive for fun, often to remote places with no services in my Jeep where I bring extra fuel with me or in my Civic where I drive up to 1000 miles in a day and need to fill up 3-4 times.

I spoke with a guy at a Tesla Supercharger when I was renting one. He was on a roadtrip across the West and was stopping for 20-25 minutes every 2 1/2 hours. And if you can't find a Supercharger in your area, it's 4+ hours to fill up, even at home. No thanks.

Perhaps future technology will enable faster charging, but it's gonna need to get to sub 10 minutes before I'm interested.

I'll stick with my Honda. It's a hoot to drive and still get's 40 mpg if I don't get into the turbo too much.

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
27. Giving my 2012 Prius to my daughter when she turns 16
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 07:08 PM
Jul 2023

Going to get a small hybrid truck to replace it. I have a hobby farm, and i need something with a bed now to haul hay, compost, rock, firewood, lumber, etc.

The only current option is the Ford Maverick hybrid, which gets 40 mpg, but there's a rumor Toyota is coming out with a hybrid small truck next year as well

If I could get a PHEV version that would be perfect. I only work 6 miles from home, and the plant manager is cool and let's guys plug in to the exterior outlets.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,560 posts)
28. We just bought a brand new electric Audi.
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 07:10 PM
Jul 2023

It's a Q4 e-tron 4 door Quattro 50. The range is about 200 miles+.

It rides very well.

I'd say the biggest negative is price.

And for me, the biggest positive is no more oil changes, or smog checks, or buying gas.

I am loving it. It's a very luxurious car.

jmowreader

(50,542 posts)
29. EVs would limit me too much
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 07:12 PM
Jul 2023

There are a lot of places I go that will NEVER have charging infrastructure due to lack of people to support it. I REALLY don't want to sit in Avery, Idaho, for three or four days trying to recharge my car off a 15-amp outlet.

JohnSJ

(92,106 posts)
33. I own a plug-in hybrid, but until the infrastructure becomes widely available, and the costs come
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 08:21 PM
Jul 2023

down, I don’t see a universal rush to buy all electric. That along with the technology changes coming down the road, I don’t see a lot of people buying an all electric car costing in excess of 50K plus going all electric just to ride around town, when they can buy a much cheaper vehicle with good mileage and much cleaner at this time.
Also, those that live in apartments will be limited until apartment landlords put enough charging stations in those apartment complexes.

Clean Mass transit would be a good way to bridge the transition, but much of the country is spoiled by wanting the convenience of their own private vehicle

Martin Eden

(12,858 posts)
35. Waiting for solid state batteries
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 08:32 PM
Jul 2023

The availability should coincide with the timing for replacing my 2016 VW Golf TSI 5 speed manual.

I'm very happy with my Golf, which has about 88k miles. Typical MPG is 34 mixed driving.

Quixote1818

(28,925 posts)
47. Sounds like a good plan. I've heard solid state will be much, much better and better for the
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 10:57 PM
Jul 2023

environment.

beaglelover

(3,462 posts)
36. I'm on my 2nd Tesla.
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 08:42 PM
Jul 2023

I really love it and it works for me since I rarely go on long distance trips. The farthest has been between Los Angeles and Palm Springs. As a daily driver it’s great. If I had to travel long distances regularly I would still have an ICE car.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
37. I'm done with car payments.
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 08:45 PM
Jul 2023

New or used. No more.

Especially in this interest rate environment.

I am going to try to get 200,000 out of my 2017 Cruze. I was getting 45 mpg on a long trip yesterday.




Trailrider1951

(3,413 posts)
38. How about including this choice:
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 08:54 PM
Jul 2023

I cannot afford one. Also, I'm driving a 2012 Toyota (ICE) with 97000 miles on it that's paid for. Also, I'm almost 72 years old and that Toyota will probably live longer than I will.

 

Shanti Shanti Shanti

(12,047 posts)
39. Hoping the solid state battery Toyota is developing comes soon, today's tech way overpriced
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 09:00 PM
Jul 2023

My 2002 Tundra is still going strong with only 60k on it, lol, they can bury me in it

tinrobot

(10,890 posts)
40. Been driving electric since 2011, never going back.
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 09:15 PM
Jul 2023

Way back, even with the older 100-ish mile range EVs, it was a better way to drive. Now with my 270-mile range EV, there's very little reason to drive a gas car.

Too many people believe the anti-EV hype and get talked out of it. I'd suggest renting one for a few days to try it out.

Bettie

(16,083 posts)
41. We have a Honda Civic hybrid from 2005
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 09:22 PM
Jul 2023

with nearly 300k miles on it and a 2020 plug in Prius hybrid that we got used recently.

My oldest son drives the Civic.

yowzayowzayowza

(7,017 posts)
55. Battery enuf for a week of commuting or ...
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 06:29 PM
Jul 2023

about three hours of near silent twisties without shifting or the crotch volcano. Fun, fun!

Raftergirl

(1,285 posts)
43. I just got a Lexus RX350h in May. I love it.
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 09:40 PM
Jul 2023

Most of my driving is city driving and I average about 70% EV on most of my trips. I get about 600 miles on a tank of gas (17 gallons) which is great, imo, on such a big vehicle.

I did look at the NX plug in but I would have had to wait 9 months for delivery and my lease was up and I could only extend it for 6 months and it doesn’t come with some of the things I really wanted.

I think when this lease is up I will get the RZ450e.



Raftergirl

(1,285 posts)
48. That's the NX. They look alike except the RX is bigger and the interior is different.
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 02:51 PM
Jul 2023

That green is this years new color. I don’t like it though. I only wanted black or gray. I lucked out as a black one was being delivered to my dealership the next week so I grabbed it.

Celerity

(43,238 posts)
50. ah, correct, I did not see the RX on the website (it wasn't listed under electric) but now see why
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 03:32 PM
Jul 2023

I like that one too



Iggo

(47,545 posts)
49. I won't ever buy one, period.
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 03:16 PM
Jul 2023

I’m only 61, but I’m done driving for the most part. I’m DEFINITELY done owning a car.

CoopersDad

(2,193 posts)
51. 2007 Prius, 2012 Volt, 2023 Tesla Model 3.
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 03:40 PM
Jul 2023

Someone totaled my Volt, I got the M3 the next day.

When the incentives bring the pre-tax cost down to under $27K, I found it easy to select a Tesla Model 3.

https://www.tesla.com/inventory/new/m3?PAINT=BLUE&arrangeby=relevance&zip=95060&range=200



RobinA

(9,886 posts)
52. Will Look Into
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 03:44 PM
Jul 2023

a hybrid for the next car, which isn't soon. Electrics would have to change a lot before I would get anything that high maintenance. Charging stations, time it takes to charge, range, extra cost... Not for me. I can see a hybrid, though.

NowISeetheLight

(3,943 posts)
53. Five Years
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 03:45 PM
Jul 2023

I just purchased an additional five year bumper to bumper warranty for my four year old Caddilac. Once that's up it'll be almost ten years old. Then I'll look at a hybrid or an EV.

With solar on the house now covering everything even in the middle of 115 degree heat and AC during the day I feel good about the future. I may add batteries in the future to increase self-sufficiency but for now I'm good. I love the idea of the sun powering my car.

GoneOffShore

(17,338 posts)
54. Probably won't get a hybrid or EV as we just bought a 2018 Renault Clio
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 03:51 PM
Jul 2023

Plenty of EV infrastructure here, but at 76 years old, I doubt that I'll be getting another vehicle.

tapper

(141 posts)
56. Unless finances change ...
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 06:33 PM
Jul 2023

Radically (higher), I will never be in the market again for any kind of car.

However, I do now own an electric tricycle.

Does that count?

hunter

(38,309 posts)
59. I hate cars. All of them.
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 08:51 PM
Jul 2023

I paid $900 for my my favorite car ever, I put less than $1,000 into it to make it reliable, and it was destroyed a few years later by some distracted driver who drove up across the sidewalk and crashed into it while it was parked in my driveway.

Meh. Just a car.

If we, as a nation, had any sense we'd be rebuilding our cities so that car ownership was largely unnecessary.

I resent the fact that I have to own a car to be considered a fully functional adult in this society.

All the cars I've owned in the twenty-first century are a big flaming "fuck you" to car culture. These cars say, nope, I don't care about cars.

If I ever come across an electric or plug-in hybrid for one or two thousand dollars I'm likely to buy it. I'm a pretty good mechanic.

Otherwise I'll refrain from encouraging car culture.

I bought a new car once in the 'eighties when I was young and foolish and full of myself. I'll never do that again.


CoopersDad

(2,193 posts)
60. Me too. Unfortunately to advocate for public transit and sustainable planning...
Sat Aug 12, 2023, 07:42 PM
Aug 2023

I need a vehicle, my work takes me hours away and I simply need to have a car for the work I do.
If I retire that will change.

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