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Renew Deal

(81,953 posts)
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 09:46 PM Aug 2023

What is your prediction for Trump's fate?


32 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Unlimited
Multiple convictions and lives the rest of his life in prison
12 (38%)
One conviction (of the three trials) and lives the rest of his life in prison
0 (0%)
One or more convictions and he eventually gets out of prison
1 (3%)
One or more convictions and he's pardoned while in prison
0 (0%)
One or more convictions and he's pardoned before prison
0 (0%)
One or more convictions and isn't sentenced to prison
18 (56%)
Not convicted in any case and is elected
1 (3%)
Not convicted in any case and loses the GE
0 (0%)
Not convicted in any case and loses in the primary
0 (0%)
He flees to Russia before the first trial
0 (0%)
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TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
1. I'm hoping for a METEOR that wipes him and all of Mar A Lago off the face of the planet.
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 09:56 PM
Aug 2023

Maybe put a large crack in Florida and turn it into its own island nation.

That is the way Desactimonious is running it now anyway.

Mike Niendorff

(3,482 posts)
2. Flees the country -- but not until he has to.
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 09:57 PM
Aug 2023

No way he voluntarily surrenders to serve his time.

He's going to be convicted (and I think it will be in ALL of these cases), but he'll still exhaust every angle he can to escape accountability.

But once that's played out, it's game over.

After that: he's looking at Russia or Saudi Arabia.


MDN

Wednesdays

(17,767 posts)
5. Yeah, he won't flee to Russia
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 10:09 PM
Aug 2023

Putin won't take him. He's used up his usefulness.

He's more likely to go to the Arabian peninsula: Saudi Arabia, UAE, Yemen, Oman, Qatar, Bahrain. None have extradition treaties with the USA. My money is on Saudi Arabia, or possibly UAE or Qatar, just based on his past dealings with them.

Mike Niendorff

(3,482 posts)
7. I agree.
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 10:38 PM
Aug 2023

Saudis or another allied entity would be my best guess too. They've already dumped billions into his golf enterprises and to his son-in-law -- which means they've gotten something of BIG value from him in return. You can bet your ass they'll offer him an out if it comes down to it. Although I also think his longevity afterwards might be pretty limited.


MDN

Maru Kitteh

(28,373 posts)
8. One or more convictions, nominal jail time suspended
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 10:42 PM
Aug 2023

and he strings it along until he dies before sleeping in jail.

jmowreader

(50,713 posts)
11. I wouldn't put it past the court to remand Trump directly into custody
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 11:01 PM
Aug 2023

Courts give convicted criminals a certain amount of time before sentencing to get their affairs in order - arrange for the care of their families, store their property, purge the child pornography the cops haven't found yet from their computers, things like that. Because Trump runs an LLC that handles his personal affairs, that time won't be necessary.

There are two other reasons - better ones - for Trump to go straight to prison.

Donald Trump owns a Cessna Citation X. What you need to know about a Citation X is that it'll fly 3600 miles on one tank of fuel, and it can land on VERY small airstrips - small enough that if you turn off your ADSB system and transponders so ATC radar can't track you, flying to just about any general aviation field on earth is possible. Once you leave the US, your general aviation fields are going to have the proper fuel for this aircraft.

He also has a large contingent of very rabid fans who would hide him in Ammon Bundy's house because they know the cops refuse to go out there.

lees1975

(4,059 posts)
14. So many of the charges in each case are related,
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 11:09 PM
Aug 2023

it would be difficult to imagine him convicted for just one thing. I think there's enough evidence for convictions on everything and he'll spend the rest of his life in some federal country club style prison.

There's a risk that he might flee to Russia. So he needs to be held over for trial, to guarantee he's still around and to make sure it goes to trial before he has a chance to win the GOP nomination.

Silent3

(15,625 posts)
17. One or more convictions, but plays for time so long he croaks before having to report...
Wed Aug 2, 2023, 12:21 AM
Aug 2023

...to prison, or before having to submit to whatever mild substitute, like house arrest, he might get.

ecstatic

(32,932 posts)
18. heart attack. A guy on tv said that most normal people are
Wed Aug 2, 2023, 12:22 AM
Aug 2023

completely overwhelmed by 1 criminal case or 1 felony. This MFer has 3 indictments in 3 different jurisdictions, 78 felony counts and MORE felonies pending in at least 1 more state. The fact that he is completely removed from reality might help him to compartmentalize and block out what's happening, but I don't know. Surely he knows he's fucked.

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