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Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:06 PM Nov 2012

Butterball. Yum...

Maggots, too!

In October of 2012, an MFA investigator documented a pattern of shocking abuse and neglect at numerous Butterball turkey operations in North Carolina, including:

* workers kicking and stomping on birds, dragging them by their fragile wings and necks, and maliciously throwing turkeys onto the ground or on top of other birds;
* birds suffering from serious untreated illnesses and injuries, including open sores, infections, and broken bones; and
* workers grabbing birds by their wings or necks and violently slamming them into tiny transport crates with no regard for their welfare.


http://butterballabuse.com/



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Butterball. Yum... (Original Post) Luminous Animal Nov 2012 OP
My uncle worked on a chicken farm Aerows Nov 2012 #1
Not much of a turkey fan but quinnox Nov 2012 #2
What does this have to do with PETA? It is an undercover film by Mercy For Animals. Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #4
oh, thought it was a PETA thing quinnox Nov 2012 #7
Yum is right... SidDithers Nov 2012 #3
I take that as a yes for animal torture? Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #6
It's a yes for crispy, golden, butter-basted skin... SidDithers Nov 2012 #14
The OP is about animal abuse. I apologize if the OP was not clear enough for you Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #16
Take this as a yes. Regardless. Opened it up as same. flvegan Nov 2012 #28
So delicious! HappyMe Nov 2012 #8
A maggot and pus puree should do the trick. Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #9
I'll send you some. HappyMe Nov 2012 #11
Thank you. Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #15
where do I get the pus from? I can easily breed maggots before Gobble day... snooper2 Nov 2012 #17
You can scrape the pus off the turkeys at the Butterball factory. Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #19
That bird actually looks overcooked. Frying is the way to go though... cherokeeprogressive Nov 2012 #25
Enjoy your abused animal from birth to death. Each and every moment of their lives Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #30
Are you totally comfortable with eating an animal that has been kicked and thrown around. Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #26
how do you know the turkey I grab off the shelf was actually abused? snooper2 Nov 2012 #36
All factory farmed animals are abused. Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #38
maggots is flamingdem Nov 2012 #5
I'm sorry. I just can't watch. That sort of thing is part of why I went vegehegian. HopeHoops Nov 2012 #10
I don't blame you for not watching. And I really cannot comprehend the cruelty behind Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #13
Eggs are bad too. We get our from free-range chickens and damn are they good. HopeHoops Nov 2012 #18
It was a good rant. :) Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #21
Thank you. I try not to be evangelical about the issue, but sometimes I can't help it. HopeHoops Nov 2012 #22
I've been a vegetarian to eating fish and/or fowl for decades.... Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #24
Great rant! JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #32
I firmly believe that improving working conditions can go a long way toward improving conditions for Brickbat Nov 2012 #12
This is why nothing from a factory farm goes into my mouth. bunnies Nov 2012 #20
I guess I will do what I traditionally do every year.. AsahinaKimi Nov 2012 #23
We also do duck LadyHawkAZ Nov 2012 #27
I look around here at the responses, and remember. flvegan Nov 2012 #29
It's so disgusting that all of our food dem4ward Nov 2012 #31
I've noticed a huge difference in just the last decade PotatoChip Nov 2012 #33
I'm a member of PETA but I eat meat LostinRed Nov 2012 #34
My thoughts too eridani Nov 2012 #35
Anthropomorphism is such a first-world conceit. Robb Nov 2012 #37
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
1. My uncle worked on a chicken farm
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:10 PM
Nov 2012

one summer when he was in high school. He never ate chicken again in his entire life. He went out of his way to never eat it. I can only imagine what he saw that caused that reaction.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
2. Not much of a turkey fan but
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:10 PM
Nov 2012

definitely not a PETA person either. I like to eat meat. Lamb is one of my favorites. I think PETA is wayyyyyy out there in their tactics.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
4. What does this have to do with PETA? It is an undercover film by Mercy For Animals.
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:14 PM
Nov 2012
http://www.mercyforanimals.org/menu.aspx

And for that matter, what does Butterball abusing animals have to do with PETA?

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
6. I take that as a yes for animal torture?
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:17 PM
Nov 2012

I suppose the Romney family should have killed, roasted, and eaten the dog after they got it off the roof.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
14. It's a yes for crispy, golden, butter-basted skin...
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:28 PM
Nov 2012

succulent white meat, tender juicy dark meat, all covered with gravy, served with roast vegetables, cranberry cashew dressing and mashed potatoes.

Sid

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
17. where do I get the pus from? I can easily breed maggots before Gobble day...
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:35 PM
Nov 2012

will I have a problem with it getting too frothy?


Also what would be better canola or peanut oil for the fryer? Canola is better for you but people say it can leave a fishy overtone to the flavor?




Mmmmm, cold beer while frying a big ass bird


 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
25. That bird actually looks overcooked. Frying is the way to go though...
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:13 PM
Nov 2012

And Butterball is the ONLY turkey I'll cook.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
30. Enjoy your abused animal from birth to death. Each and every moment of their lives
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:01 AM
Nov 2012

without a moment of freedom or joy. Each and every moment of their lives in abject misery until their only breath of fresh air is when then are kicked and violently thrown into a truck.

Yeah! Eat torture. Teach your children to eat it to.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
26. Are you totally comfortable with eating an animal that has been kicked and thrown around.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:20 AM
Nov 2012

It appears that you are celebrating cruelty. I.e., not only are you comfortable with the abuse exhibited in the OP, but you want to figure out how to make that abuse tasty.

Would you be willing to kick the crap out a turkey. Would you kick it until it was dead in front of your children and serve it for dinner.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
36. how do you know the turkey I grab off the shelf was actually abused?
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:00 AM
Nov 2012

Do we need more regulations and control on what happens at factory farms? Yes..

Are they needed for a modern society? Yes..

Am I going to tell everyone this year not cooking a turkey because of a thread and problems I read about on a website on the Intertubes. No...but there actually is another option. I don't live on a farm anymore but there is a park with a bunch of ducks just down the road...I do have a smoker as well ..


Most folks here would probably prefer I just get the 25 cent a pound Turkey or whatever deal Kroger has the week before.

Anyway, any advice on best oil to use?

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
10. I'm sorry. I just can't watch. That sort of thing is part of why I went vegehegian.
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:22 PM
Nov 2012

Not only are factory poultry farms cruel, but it's also one of the most dangerous jobs and often involves low-paid immigrant workers (legal and not). The first stop on the line (after slaughter) is, not kidding, "butthole cutter", and it is the position that leads to the most injuries.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
13. I don't blame you for not watching. And I really cannot comprehend the cruelty behind
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:27 PM
Nov 2012

the mindset of those who do watch and still enthusiastically promote factory farmed meats.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
18. Eggs are bad too. We get our from free-range chickens and damn are they good.
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:35 PM
Nov 2012

One of my wife's co-workers has a farm and gets so many eggs she was throwing them out. My wife trades her fresh herbs and a buck or two for a dozen HUGE eggs with big deep yellow centers and the taste I remember from when I was a young kid. At least I know the chickens are well cared for and not debeaked and crammed in cages so tightly that they can't turn around. They eat bugs, seeds, and whatever else is outside because that's where they spend most of their time.

The practice is also a royal waste of protein. Chickens are the best. It only takes five times as much protein to get an equivalent amount of meat protein. Cows are the worst - 16:1. Water consumption is an abomination. Even with all of the ethical issues aside, factory farming is a disgrace on multiple levels. And frankly, it wouldn't be competitive with vegetable protein without all of the federal subsidies.

Yes, that was a rant.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
22. Thank you. I try not to be evangelical about the issue, but sometimes I can't help it.
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:26 PM
Nov 2012

I did get lucky though. All three of my daughters (17, 19, 21) are lifelong vegetarians. I've got old friends who went veggie well before I did but married meatasauruses who started feeding their kids meat (fast food) for convenience. We never did, but we let them try meat if they wanted (as long as they KNEW what they were eating). None of them liked it and the youngest never took a bite.

They can do what they want in that respect now (and since they could identify it), but so far they're all rather strict. Eggs and dairy are the only animal products they'll consume.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
24. I've been a vegetarian to eating fish and/or fowl for decades....
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 08:41 PM
Nov 2012

Currently, I am eating fish & fowl. Each about once a month. Even so, over all those decades, I've been good about choosing authentic free range. local and organic.

There is no way in hell I would eat an abused animal or a product from an abused animal.

Congrats to your daughters!

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
32. Great rant!
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 05:07 AM
Nov 2012

And I hear what you're saying on the egg thing. What a difference between eggs from not-factory-farm and factory farm eggs!

Julie

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
12. I firmly believe that improving working conditions can go a long way toward improving conditions for
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:27 PM
Nov 2012

the animals as well. But it also requires a cultural shift in our attitude toward factory farming. I won't give up my meat, however.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
20. This is why nothing from a factory farm goes into my mouth.
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 03:43 PM
Nov 2012

Its just so wrong. Buying from these companies is a vote for animal torture. Sadly, the majority of Americans just dont give a shit. Leave a dog in a hot car and police get called... beat the shit out of a chicken or cow "whatever".

flvegan

(64,413 posts)
29. I look around here at the responses, and remember.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:30 AM
Nov 2012

This used to be a progressive website, not one closed off to idiots.

 

dem4ward

(323 posts)
31. It's so disgusting that all of our food
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:30 AM
Nov 2012

whether animal, fruit or vegetable is being abused or manipulated. Dairy milkers beating cows, egg laying hens living in squalor, ducks being forced fed by metal rods, chickens being plumped and given growth hormones. And we wonder why we are getting cancer, tumors, and other aliments. It's the shit food we're eating, thinking we're eating healthy. I'm going to make a conscientious effort to be more aware of where my food comes from. Please join me and do the same.

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
33. I've noticed a huge difference in just the last decade
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 06:54 AM
Nov 2012

or so, w/both (store-bought) chicken and turkey.

I don't know if it's selective (inter)breeding, hormones, lack of movement, or what, but have found that it is far more fatty/greasy. And- while smaller in size, seems to have an oddly disproportionate amount of meat.

I've been buying only free range poultry from a neighbor for over 3 years now. Huge difference!

As an aside, I couldn't watch your video.

LostinRed

(840 posts)
34. I'm a member of PETA but I eat meat
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 07:01 AM
Nov 2012

I justify it by eating organic free range. I try to buy local when I can. I don't agree with factory farms, however, I don't think eating animal protein is evil

eridani

(51,907 posts)
35. My thoughts too
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 07:15 AM
Nov 2012

My local organic suppliers of grass-fed beef also have chickens and turkeys--go for heritage breeds if you can get one. Usually you have to order way in advance, but it's worth it. We get regular emails from the local farmers participating, and all are proud of natural environments and humane slaughter.

If you are going to eat animals, I think it's a moral obligation to allow them to have decent lives first.

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