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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsButterball. Yum...
Maggots, too!
* workers kicking and stomping on birds, dragging them by their fragile wings and necks, and maliciously throwing turkeys onto the ground or on top of other birds;
* birds suffering from serious untreated illnesses and injuries, including open sores, infections, and broken bones; and
* workers grabbing birds by their wings or necks and violently slamming them into tiny transport crates with no regard for their welfare.
http://butterballabuse.com/
Aerows
(39,961 posts)one summer when he was in high school. He never ate chicken again in his entire life. He went out of his way to never eat it. I can only imagine what he saw that caused that reaction.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)definitely not a PETA person either. I like to eat meat. Lamb is one of my favorites. I think PETA is wayyyyyy out there in their tactics.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)And for that matter, what does Butterball abusing animals have to do with PETA?
quinnox
(20,600 posts)Anyway....
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)I suppose the Romney family should have killed, roasted, and eaten the dog after they got it off the roof.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)succulent white meat, tender juicy dark meat, all covered with gravy, served with roast vegetables, cranberry cashew dressing and mashed potatoes.
Sid
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)to understand that.
flvegan
(64,413 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)I'm looking into glazes to achieve that brown, tasty, crispy skin.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)will I have a problem with it getting too frothy?
Also what would be better canola or peanut oil for the fryer? Canola is better for you but people say it can leave a fishy overtone to the flavor?
Mmmmm, cold beer while frying a big ass bird
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)And Butterball is the ONLY turkey I'll cook.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)without a moment of freedom or joy. Each and every moment of their lives in abject misery until their only breath of fresh air is when then are kicked and violently thrown into a truck.
Yeah! Eat torture. Teach your children to eat it to.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)It appears that you are celebrating cruelty. I.e., not only are you comfortable with the abuse exhibited in the OP, but you want to figure out how to make that abuse tasty.
Would you be willing to kick the crap out a turkey. Would you kick it until it was dead in front of your children and serve it for dinner.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Do we need more regulations and control on what happens at factory farms? Yes..
Are they needed for a modern society? Yes..
Am I going to tell everyone this year not cooking a turkey because of a thread and problems I read about on a website on the Intertubes. No...but there actually is another option. I don't live on a farm anymore but there is a park with a bunch of ducks just down the road...I do have a smoker as well ..
Most folks here would probably prefer I just get the 25 cent a pound Turkey or whatever deal Kroger has the week before.
Anyway, any advice on best oil to use?
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)flamingdem
(39,320 posts)the word of the day!
Not only are they infesting turkeys they're infesting John McCain
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)Not only are factory poultry farms cruel, but it's also one of the most dangerous jobs and often involves low-paid immigrant workers (legal and not). The first stop on the line (after slaughter) is, not kidding, "butthole cutter", and it is the position that leads to the most injuries.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)the mindset of those who do watch and still enthusiastically promote factory farmed meats.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)One of my wife's co-workers has a farm and gets so many eggs she was throwing them out. My wife trades her fresh herbs and a buck or two for a dozen HUGE eggs with big deep yellow centers and the taste I remember from when I was a young kid. At least I know the chickens are well cared for and not debeaked and crammed in cages so tightly that they can't turn around. They eat bugs, seeds, and whatever else is outside because that's where they spend most of their time.
The practice is also a royal waste of protein. Chickens are the best. It only takes five times as much protein to get an equivalent amount of meat protein. Cows are the worst - 16:1. Water consumption is an abomination. Even with all of the ethical issues aside, factory farming is a disgrace on multiple levels. And frankly, it wouldn't be competitive with vegetable protein without all of the federal subsidies.
Yes, that was a rant.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)I did get lucky though. All three of my daughters (17, 19, 21) are lifelong vegetarians. I've got old friends who went veggie well before I did but married meatasauruses who started feeding their kids meat (fast food) for convenience. We never did, but we let them try meat if they wanted (as long as they KNEW what they were eating). None of them liked it and the youngest never took a bite.
They can do what they want in that respect now (and since they could identify it), but so far they're all rather strict. Eggs and dairy are the only animal products they'll consume.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Currently, I am eating fish & fowl. Each about once a month. Even so, over all those decades, I've been good about choosing authentic free range. local and organic.
There is no way in hell I would eat an abused animal or a product from an abused animal.
Congrats to your daughters!
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)And I hear what you're saying on the egg thing. What a difference between eggs from not-factory-farm and factory farm eggs!
Julie
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)the animals as well. But it also requires a cultural shift in our attitude toward factory farming. I won't give up my meat, however.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)Its just so wrong. Buying from these companies is a vote for animal torture. Sadly, the majority of Americans just dont give a shit. Leave a dog in a hot car and police get called... beat the shit out of a chicken or cow "whatever".
AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)Peking duck!
LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)I don't care for turkey.
flvegan
(64,413 posts)This used to be a progressive website, not one closed off to idiots.
dem4ward
(323 posts)whether animal, fruit or vegetable is being abused or manipulated. Dairy milkers beating cows, egg laying hens living in squalor, ducks being forced fed by metal rods, chickens being plumped and given growth hormones. And we wonder why we are getting cancer, tumors, and other aliments. It's the shit food we're eating, thinking we're eating healthy. I'm going to make a conscientious effort to be more aware of where my food comes from. Please join me and do the same.
PotatoChip
(3,186 posts)or so, w/both (store-bought) chicken and turkey.
I don't know if it's selective (inter)breeding, hormones, lack of movement, or what, but have found that it is far more fatty/greasy. And- while smaller in size, seems to have an oddly disproportionate amount of meat.
I've been buying only free range poultry from a neighbor for over 3 years now. Huge difference!
As an aside, I couldn't watch your video.
LostinRed
(840 posts)I justify it by eating organic free range. I try to buy local when I can. I don't agree with factory farms, however, I don't think eating animal protein is evil
eridani
(51,907 posts)My local organic suppliers of grass-fed beef also have chickens and turkeys--go for heritage breeds if you can get one. Usually you have to order way in advance, but it's worth it. We get regular emails from the local farmers participating, and all are proud of natural environments and humane slaughter.
If you are going to eat animals, I think it's a moral obligation to allow them to have decent lives first.
Robb
(39,665 posts)I'm certainly as guilty of it as the next person.