Lindsey Graham lets slip his true agenda...

[kentuck]

He responded to the President's news conference where the President stated that if they had a problem to come after him, not Susan Rice, the UN Ambassador.

That must have made Graham mad? He responded almost immediately that "Yes, he thought the President was responsible for Benghazi". No Republican had dared to go there before but Graham gave away their strategy. Benghazi = Impeachment. That is their goal and Graham as much as said so.

Thanks, Lindsey. We knew where you were coming from already but we appreciate the clarification.

[grasswire]

1. this was their plan from the get-go

even before the election.

First term, they denied Obama any progress by vowing obstructionism from day one.

Second term, they deny him any progress with a faux scandal and impeachment inquiry, beginning immediately.

[kentuck]

2. Yep.

I think so.

[dchill]

31. They've been mining for impeachment gold...

All that they could turn up was this counterfeit penny. And who else but a Republican would counterfeit a penny?

[ProudProgressiveNow]

46. They will go broke digging... nt

[Rockyj]

44. Like we really need Congress to spend a lot...

...of our taxpayer dollars and spend all their time trying to impeach President Obama, instead of doing their f-n jobs!
WE must take a stand & NOT allow the GOP/congress to even go there!
We must make sure McCain & Graham continue to look like angry old white men & the bitter fools they are!

Please someone a lot smarter than me create a PETITION to STOP them in their tracks now!

[BlueMan Votes]

3. the electorate is in no mood for another politically-motivated impeachment process...

It would be a very stupid move on the part of the repugs.

[barbtries]

16. i think so too

and if they proceed we need to be on board with the cards, letters, emails, marches, etc, so there is no doubt whether they are wrong or right.

[kentuck]

21. Fortunately, they did not win the Senate...

If they had won, impeachment proceeding would already be in the planning stage. As it is, Harry Reid is in no mood to put up with their bullshit so they are just pissing and moaning because they didn't get the Senate back and that is where conviction has to happen.

on edit: with the addition of more Democratic Senators, their dream has been effectively squashed.

[ljm2002]

23. IIRC, impeachment begins in the House...

...I distinctly remember the "House Managers" marching over to the Senate to deliver their bill of impeachment back in the Clinton years.

Of course once the Senate had it, they would never convict Obama. So beyond being bad and wrong, it would also be a colossal waste of time, which the electorate would definitely not like.

[kentuck]

34. Thanks for the clarification.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091008155702AAuGP4X

[Auntie Bush]

43. What's IIRC stand for?

[ljm2002]

45. If I Remember Correctly... n/t

[yankeepants]

33. Add the independent Senator from Maine

who announced that he would be caucussing with the dems.

[BlueMan Votes]

37. exactly. It would be a completely futile effort on the part of congressional repugs...

because they would never get a conviction in the Senate.

i'm pretty sure that Boner is smart enough to realize that, as well as what kind of repercussions they would face from the voters in 2014 for pulling that shit again.

[kentuck]

40. They thought they were going to win the Senate...

That must be very disappointing to them?

[Sherman A1]

51. Agreed

and that worked oh, so well for them the last time they pulled the impeachment stunt.

[IL Lib]

47. +1 n/t

[avebury]

49. I totally agree. nt

[Warren DeMontague]

64. Yeah, but what else have they got to do with themselves?

Continue to peddle their agenda of tax cuts for Billionaires, Creationism in public schools, and Prison cells for women who use birth control?

[BlueMan Votes]

66. they can always keep trying to get rid of obamacare...

or else just continue being obstructionists.

but the repug leadership is smart enough to know better than try for impeachment.

[PearliePoo2]

4. I agree...unfortunetly this has been their plan all along.

It started with Mittens making his ridiculous "shoot first" statement right after the attack.
Now we're going to witness President Obama take these treasonous fuckers on (without the gloves).
Go get 'em Mr. President!

[elfin]

5. Yes, plus the hunger to seem relevant in some way

Ah, for the good old days for Lindsey and John, when they seemed important to national events.

They had such a good time during the last impeachment drama. Poor Lieberman, stuck on the sidelines now. Oh wait, he will probably be the newest addition to the Faux stable to support his senate crazy buddies.

[Blue4Texas]

6. Has always been their backup plan if lost election

But like so many of their other plans, will not work

[kentuck]

7. "Lindsey, you weren't supposed to say that"..

I'm sure that is the criticism he is hearing about right now.

[Coyotl]

8. What a bunch of nervous nellies, what ridiculous post-landslide talk this is

Why even mention the I word?

[nadinbrzezinski]

62. Because they will go there

for Rs, they are still looking to avenge Nixon. No, I wish I was kidding.

[BlueMan Votes]

68. no they won't.

they don't hold the senate, so it would be a futile measure...and the repug leadership is smart enough to know what kind of a voter backlash they'd face in 2014 if they did.

[Arugula Latte]

9. I think the stifling air in the closet of denial he's living in is warping his brain.

[tularetom]

12. Ooooh, you're gonna get yelled at for what you implied

[Arugula Latte]

20. Probably so.

But, ya know ... sometimes the writing is on the wall.

[femrap]

53. +1 nt

[Tennessee Gal]

10. Best possible response: Please proceed, Senator.

Sound familiar, Lindsey?

[lolly]

30. Maybe they should be a little more circumspect about calling for an investigation

These generals were their guys.

They might not want too much investigatin' going on here.

[hedda_foil]

11. Agreed… but I think Rmoney's team was trying to Swiftboat Pres O first.

Imho the whole thing was used as a setup to ensure a Rmoney presidency (tho not necessarily the murders... the explosion of outrage across the Mideast over the stoopid moovie would have sufficed as the basis for a potentially successful Swiftboating.)

The fallback position was impeachment, starting with calling for a "Watergate style" investigation. I don't think they'll have much luck. But then, they tried everything in the book on Clinton before Monica snapped her thong at him.

[lolly]

26. What's going on with the investigation into that movie, anyway?

I remember that the whole buzz swirling around the movie was pretty suspicious as well--

The actors shot a completely different movie, and had no idea they were shooting an anti-Islam movie. The offending script was dubbed in over their lines.

The movie was, IIRC, never actually released anywhere. It was posted on YouTube and then "leaked" to various sources who might be interested in it.

The filmmaker had all kinds of shady business in his past, including some sort of connection to Israeli right wing businessmen, I believe. And he was arrested for violating parole, and has disappeared from the public eye.

There was talk at the time of this being some sort of set-up, designed to inspire riots and protests, possibly to make Obama look bad.

[Blue4Texas]

35. Film maker in jail for parole violation

[riderinthestorm]

13. Agreed. They'll distort the true facts of Benghazi, seizing this "opportunity" to rev up impeachment

machinery that's been gathering dust.

I resisted the other earlier posts that said they Rethugs would use Benghazi as the impeachment vehicle but Graham has made it clear with this statement.

What a damn shame. The convulsions from the last round against Clinton are still reverberating in bad ways.

[Lint Head]

14. Graham is a dyed in the wool racist.

He attended a party next door to my brother inlaws house in a rural area of South Carolina. It was a small gathering. They were in their back yard. The house is rather small with a chain link fence seperating it. I could hear the loud voices from lots of drinking. I listened over the fence when Graham got up to make his speech. This was back when he ran the last time. I heard outright references to not allowing people on welfare and food stamps to take over government and other more blatant racist terms. He is not what you think. He is less moderate than the media presents him to be.

[Anthony McCarthy]

15. Impeachment did wonders for Clinton's popularity

It was one of the stupidest things they ever did.

[Jersey Devil]

18. Yes, but Clinton's popularity was at the expense of achievements for his 2nd term

He achieved virtually nothing, having to spend virtually all his time defending against impeachment. Yes, he was very popular at the end, but don't forget W wound up President.

They have the same plan - cripple Obama's second term. This time we can't let them get away with another charade.

[Selatius]

42. He couldn't have achieved much even without impeachment. The Rs ran both the Senate/House.

The only bills coming out of Congress in those days were right-wing ones, such as the Telecommunications Act of 1996 or the Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999 that deregulated the banking industry, leading to the crash of 2008.

[Still Sensible]

17. I believe the President's tone

was basically saying "If you want to try that, I will seriously fuck up your shit!"

[ProudProgressiveNow]

48. That was the way I read him too.... nt

[Matt_in_STL]

19. Here's my wish

I wish the President would let them start their hearings. Then, get up from his desk at the White House, gather his Secret Service detail and march his way up into the hearings. Just stroll on into the hearings unexpectedly, sit at the table, look the Republican assholes in the eye, and knock it out of the park.

[kentuck]

22. Harry Reid will not permit that...

They thought they were going to win the Senate but they didn't so their dream has been stillborn...

[Matt_in_STL]

39. Oh, I know it would never happen

But just the image of the doors flinging open and the President strolling in ready to kick some ass is great. The look on the faces of the Republicans would be priceless because their bluff just got called and shit is about to go down.

[patrice]

29. I'd pay to see that. But you don't want to perrsonalize their shit. nt

[lpbk2713]

24. Obviously a Fauxbot.

It's much easier for him to repeat Faux TP's than to try to use his brain without some help.

[Marr]

25. Even these nitwits surely understand that their days of playing offense are over.

It'll be a long time before the GOP is in a position to do that again. They have a LOT or reorganizing to do if they're ever going to be a nationally viable party again, and step ONE is very obviously to excise the Limbaugh wing of the party, or at least marginalize them. The only people who consider this Benghazi thing a "scandal" are loony, hate radio fans, and they're an irrelvant minority now that repulses just about everyone.

If the Republicans were to toss them red meat in the form of impeachment hearings, they would be ensuring their own status as nothing more than a regional, obstructionist party for several cycles to come-- and it would without a doubt cost them the House.

[HowHasItComeToThis]

36. i did and here it is

https://www.google.com/search?q=songbird+mccain&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US fficial&client=firefox-a

[OregonBlue]

27. So are the Dems gonna let the GOP pull another Clinton? They better stand up to these assholes this

time. The Repugs are grasping at straws.

[pwb]

28. Another war monger chicken hawk.

This asshole and songbird McCain need to shut the fuck up. Google songbird McCain if you want to really know John McCain?. Phony fuck. Just the opposite of hero.

[reformist2]

32. Graham made a CAREER-ENDING mistake with that response.

[no_hypocrisy]

38. Is this going to become the "new tradition" where

every time a democrat wins the WH for a second term and the House is republican, the House MUST impeach the president?

[Avalux]

41. See my McCain post from earlier today:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021815453

[avebury]

50. Let the Republicans dig their hole. This might help

the Democrats take the House in 2014.

[JackN415]

52. Impeach? Go ahead, make my day

[1StrongBlackMan]

54. And President Obama's response ...

"Please proceed, congressman."

At which point, anyone who has paid the least bit of attention know ... immediately stop and cover-up!

Do these clowns not realize, the Whitehouse has real-time tapes (and transcripts) of exactly what the CIA was telling Dr. Rice (and therefore, President Obama) as they were telling it?

[KamaAina]

55. Scratch one off that "5 GOP Senators Most Likely to Work With Democrats" list.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/11/five-gop-senators-likely-to-work-with-democrats.php

Lindsey Graham

Graham is a tricky target because he is up for re-election in bright red South Carolina in 2014. But the senator has, in recent years, collaborated with Democrats on major issues like immigration and climate change, and in the wake of Obama’s re-election, is urging his party to soften its opposition on immigration reform in order to win back Hispanics. He has also been vocal about his support for raising tax revenues to reduce the debt.

If Graham gets hounded by a credible primary challenger early next cycle, his desire for cooperation could prove short-lived. But if he fends off an intra-party battle for his seat, the South Carolinian could reignite his bipartisan streak and become a central figure in advancing and molding Obama’s key second term initiatives.

That means 40 of 'em are even more batshit crazy than Lindsey.

[tomm2thumbs]

56. Are you saying Lindsey Graham's slip is showing?

I thought the heels were a bit much, but that slip... Now that's gotta go.

Graham was such an angry interview on Sunday that I think he came off looking like another Right Wing Loon. Must be hard to be the last nut in the asylum who has keys to the getaway van... but doesn't know how to drive.

[The Wizard]

57. Graham was instrumental

in the Clinton impeachment. His home should be...........

[spanone]

58. bu$h* & co started a war on false intel....stfu

[WinkyDink]

59. We never learn. They were emboldened twice over when Bush's impeachment was "off the table."

[nadinbrzezinski]

60. Raise hands if you are a smidgen suprised

...

[loyalkydem]

61. we need to put pressure

on him and any more of these fools who are trying to go down this route. I imagine having hundreds of calls to his office a day from the President's supporters will make him think twice about this.

[LeftInTX]

67. I totally agree

[CincyDem]

63. Yeah, because we thought it worked so well last time we tried it.

[EmeraldCityGrl]

65. If a reporter were to ask

McCain or Graham the names of the three other Americans that died,
I bet they wouldn't be able to name them. If it was not Benghazi it would
be something else.

[jmowreader]

69. Impeachment? Bullwinkle, that trick never works!

You have a Congress that's less popular than Ted Bundy because they obstruct everything, tons of things that need to be done, a Senate firmly in the hands of Democrats and a "scandal" that amounts to four Americans getting killed in the most dangerous place in the world. The only absolute way to have kept the ambassador alive would have been to withdraw our people, and you know what would have happened then: "President Obama is turning his back on a new democracy!"

It will be nice to see the House Republican Caucus become four guys from Utah, two from Idaho, one from Wyoming and an Alaskan, so go for it GOP, just try holding impeachment hearings. They tell me there are more cars for Darrell Issa to steal now than when he left...

[BadgerKid]

70. If anything has been made clear to me this election cycle,

Republicans like government when it suits them, especially in suppressing the vote and being eager to push for impeachment ant time there's a Democratic president.

I wish they would stay the F out of government's way and let it do its thing. No wonder the GOP says government doesn't work: the GOP is the problem. The ultimate in "projection."

[Blanks]

71. The administration needs to launch an investigation...

into the twelve embassy attacks that occurred under George W. Bush's administration.

Simultaneously, have some of the democrats that are on house intelligence subcommittee go on the Sunday shows and talk about how we should have paid more attention to these 'many' attacks because we might have been able to predict the attack with more accuracy since there were indicators that an attack was emminent.

These congresspersons need to point out some small detail from Dubyas administration that was misrepresented (about embassy security) and had it been reported properly we would have been better able to short-circuit the Benghazi attack.

Of course the house members can't be specific because of national security...

You know... Like that.

Bring attention to the many attacks on embassies during the Bush administration; say it lots of times. The many attacks, the many attacks. There was this common element about the many attacks.

Now, proceed with your impeachment over this one attack in Benghazi.