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Clearly Harvard hires very smart people to be their professors (Original Post) RAB910 Aug 2023 OP
This needs to be on billboards everywhere SouthernDem4ever Aug 2023 #1
Say it, Doctor Levitsky! John1956PA Aug 2023 #2
KnR...We are being warned clearly and repeatedly. MiHale Aug 2023 #3
Yes, we are. n/t KarenS Aug 2023 #5
+1 2naSalit Aug 2023 #18
To believe otherwise is to live in denial. Duncan Grant Aug 2023 #23
Corporate media has no idea what this learned man in politics is talking about! Alexander Of Assyria Aug 2023 #27
Well, at least one intelligent professor. Wonder Why Aug 2023 #4
Oh come on... Duppers Aug 2023 #16
The thread is about HARVARD professors, not generic professors and teachers. Wonder Why Aug 2023 #20
I don't know, and I doubt that you do, either. ShazzieB Aug 2023 #26
Alan Dershowitz is an Emeritus Harvard Professor, and he's nuts. nt pnwmom Aug 2023 #28
So all we know is that of two Harvard professors, in this two prof race, Wonder Why Aug 2023 #30
Big woo ExWhoDoesntCare Aug 2023 #38
The OP made a broad general claim which is disproven by a single counter example. pnwmom Aug 2023 #39
Nuts, but not stupid Polybius Aug 2023 #40
His logic lately leaves a lot to be desired. nt pnwmom Aug 2023 #41
If you'd bother to go to their faculty web page ExWhoDoesntCare Aug 2023 #37
K&R Thanks for posting. n/t TeamProg Aug 2023 #6
Great Post!!! wolfie001 Aug 2023 #7
Yup. The GOP is a FAR-RIGHT authoritarian party by consensus of experts Hortensis Aug 2023 #8
Kick. N/T Upthevibe Aug 2023 #9
yep llashram Aug 2023 #10
Keep in mind many MAGAS are fine with an authoritarian govt. Irish_Dem Aug 2023 #11
The smear campaign against such blasphemy (NOT) is going to be brutal. NoMoreRepugs Aug 2023 #12
K&R n/t Alice Kramden Aug 2023 #13
The gops audience is so easy to deceive BOSSHOG Aug 2023 #14
The propaganda machine convinces them they are the victims when in reality they are the villians RAB910 Aug 2023 #15
If you don't own a firearm I'd get one. If they get an opening they will come for us. Hotler Aug 2023 #17
Yes and no orangecrush Aug 2023 #22
I hate to disagree with the professor here but... Yavin4 Aug 2023 #19
It's also American media who leech off the Repuke donor class FakeNoose Aug 2023 #35
MEGAKICK orangecrush Aug 2023 #21
and yet most of the media Quanto Magnus Aug 2023 #24
TRUTH Skittles Aug 2023 #25
Kick dalton99a Aug 2023 #29
GOP response: Hire dumber professors. Sneederbunk Aug 2023 #31
Ha ha heh...IMHO, isn't this what the GOP is doing in some southern states, by driving away their SWBTATTReg Aug 2023 #32
K&R Blue Owl Aug 2023 #33
To take liberties with the work of a Harvard prof... Whatthe_Firetruck Aug 2023 #34
Actually, they do ExWhoDoesntCare Aug 2023 #36
And that detestable excuse for a political party has to be left in ruins. calimary Aug 2023 #42
I agree with his statement 100%. Old Crow Aug 2023 #43
No. Cornel West. betsuni Aug 2023 #44

SouthernDem4ever

(6,618 posts)
1. This needs to be on billboards everywhere
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 09:40 AM
Aug 2023

Something has to get thru to the thick skulled knuckle draggers.

Duncan Grant

(8,316 posts)
23. To believe otherwise is to live in denial.
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 02:38 PM
Aug 2023

They intend to rule society, not govern. This sounds like alarmist sloganeering - but it’s not. If one looks into conservative thought leaders (contemporary right-wing philosophers), their goals are abundantly clear. They talk a lot about restoring the “common good”, and — without shame —openly discuss how the ends will justify the means. This explains why today’s republicans are entrenched in ideology and *not* democracy.

This post isn’t directed at MiHale but rather to anyone reading this thread. I recommend these two recent links:

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/reviews/antiliberal-revolution

https://www.washingtonpost.com/books/2023/07/28/patrick-deneen-regime-change-sohrab-ahmari-tyranny-inc-review/

Edit: A search of Adrian Vermeule will provide a good intro to all this, too. (Scrutinize your sources…)

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
27. Corporate media has no idea what this learned man in politics is talking about!
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 06:41 PM
Aug 2023

On with the horse race, giddy up you lame Republican nag, there’s ad profit galore at the finish line!

Wonder Why

(3,632 posts)
20. The thread is about HARVARD professors, not generic professors and teachers.
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 12:51 PM
Aug 2023

How many others have spoken out?

ShazzieB

(16,973 posts)
26. I don't know, and I doubt that you do, either.
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 06:34 PM
Aug 2023

Since you're the one who is making pronouncements about Harvard professors, apropos of nothing, I think it's on you to prove them. You could start by looking up the faculty roster for Harvard and googling them all. Once you report your findings to DU, we can have a discussion based on facts rather than baseless assumptions.

J/K, but honestly, you are on pretty shaky ground implying that Harvard professors are not very smart, Trump humpers, or whatever you were hinting at (which isn't entirely clear, and I'm not comfortable making assumptions) .

Wonder Why

(3,632 posts)
30. So all we know is that of two Harvard professors, in this two prof race,
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 08:08 PM
Aug 2023

Dershowitz comes in first in the "Nuttiest" competition

and Livitsky comes in next to last in the Intelligence competition.



 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
38. Big woo
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 10:44 PM
Aug 2023

Lots of people have emeritus status, including idiots. It's like an honorary PhD, nice to have, but ultimately meaningless.

Harvard also has a guy named Stephen Breyer on actual staff. Ever hear of him? Are you going to say that he's nuts or an idiot, too?

Look, I spent many years either working admin for professors, or spending time with them socially because my stepfather was a professor (and a Harvard-educated one, at that). That's why I know for a fact that every single university department has at least one idiot on their payroll. Some departments have more idiots than others (business, especially), but not a single one of them is bereft of such a creature.

pnwmom

(109,061 posts)
39. The OP made a broad general claim which is disproven by a single counter example.
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 10:51 PM
Aug 2023

But I'm sure there are others, because there are bound to be some other Trump fans there.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
37. If you'd bother to go to their faculty web page
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 10:37 PM
Aug 2023

You'd learn that they have a great number of intelligent and incredible professors...Including a liberal Supreme Court justice named Stephen Breyer. You may have heard of him.

They have an impressive roster, for those who know how to understand what that entails.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. Yup. The GOP is a FAR-RIGHT authoritarian party by consensus of experts
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 10:34 AM
Aug 2023

internationally who study political parties. Right down there with Hungary's Fidesz that serves dictator Viktor Orban.

VERY popular with tRump's followers who want an Orban and fallen democracy of their own.

"Come back, Mr. President, make America great again, and bring us peace!” Orban to CPAC audience after claiming the Western world is "under attack from a virus developed in progressive liberal laboratories." But authoritarianism is the antidote. (He passed on calling it a vaccine to this crowd. )

Irish_Dem

(50,320 posts)
11. Keep in mind many MAGAS are fine with an authoritarian govt.
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 11:06 AM
Aug 2023

And stealing elections. They are a minority group which feels entitled, superior and victimized to justify their ruthless control over groups the demonize.

They believe that the rules will protect them and punish everyone else.

BOSSHOG

(37,367 posts)
14. The gops audience is so easy to deceive
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 11:38 AM
Aug 2023

THEY are the Patriots. THEY are the lovers of freedom. THEY are the constitutional scholars. THEY are the hard working god loving Americans. That’s what THEY have been groomed to know. With a healthy assist from the Russians. So THEY cash their Socialist Social Security check and send a hunk to their own freedom loving hitler. Are the good people of America giving penance for some unknown reason?

Hotler

(11,593 posts)
17. If you don't own a firearm I'd get one. If they get an opening they will come for us.
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 12:01 PM
Aug 2023

Might as well take out a few of them as they kick in the our doors.
https://theliberalgunclub.com/

orangecrush

(19,889 posts)
22. Yes and no
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 01:30 PM
Aug 2023


Good to own a firearm if you have the proper background and get training, if you are untrained.

Bad to buy a firearm with the preconceived idea of using it to kill anyone, especially members of any specified group of people.

I sympathize with your feelings, but de-escalation of the possibility of any armed confrontation should be priority.

Yavin4

(35,523 posts)
19. I hate to disagree with the professor here but...
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 12:32 PM
Aug 2023

The Republican party as a political organization does not exist. It has become captive of the Republican donor class who panders to the worst, most fringe elements of the American political spectrum in order to appear as though it has popular support.

It's the Republican donor class, the party per se that's driving the bus.

FakeNoose

(33,419 posts)
35. It's also American media who leech off the Repuke donor class
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 10:00 PM
Aug 2023

The media leeches are just as evil as the ultra-wealthy ultra-conservatives.

Quanto Magnus

(924 posts)
24. and yet most of the media
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 05:05 PM
Aug 2023

treats them with kid gloves, does massive contortions to 'both sides' what's going on and mostly ignoring people like this professor.

Skittles

(153,900 posts)
25. TRUTH
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 06:25 PM
Aug 2023

YES INDEED

repukes cannot win with their shitty platform so they hijack democracy - for example, infesting the Supreme Court with hacks

SWBTATTReg

(22,538 posts)
32. Ha ha heh...IMHO, isn't this what the GOP is doing in some southern states, by driving away their
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 08:55 PM
Aug 2023

competent teachers (not all of them) but putting forth an agenda to to be taught that is so biased, e.g., FL, etc.

Whatthe_Firetruck

(564 posts)
34. To take liberties with the work of a Harvard prof...
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 09:24 PM
Aug 2023

... (And remember this couplet rhymes)...

These are the only warnings from the Profs who teach at Harvard,
And there may be many others but they haven't been discovered.

Tom Lehrer, The Elements Song.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
36. Actually, they do
Mon Aug 14, 2023, 10:34 PM
Aug 2023

This post had me going through some of the bios of their faculty, and they do have some impressive hires.

Not all of them, of course, but some of them have incredible CVs.

calimary

(81,981 posts)
42. And that detestable excuse for a political party has to be left in ruins.
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 02:30 AM
Aug 2023

There has to be a teachable moment to come out of this.

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