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Wanderlust988

(509 posts)
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 04:11 PM Aug 2023

Mitch McConnell needs to hang on until after the KY-Gov election in Nov.

We don't need him dying or resigning right now cause that'll nationalize the race between Gov. Beshear and Cameron. The whole race will be about Beshear attempting to challenge the law in court that says he has to choose a Republican.

Beshear is doing well in the polls right now and we don't need this happening. Mitch needs to cling for another couple of months. Nationalizing this race would be terrible for Beshear. Kentuckians are much more likely to vote Dem in state/local elections than in federal races.

For everyone saying he needs to resign...NOT RIGHT NOW.

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OrlandoDem2

(2,070 posts)
3. Side note. Why is the KY Democratic Party able to get a Democratic governor but Florida cannot?
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 04:29 PM
Aug 2023

What is the KY Democratic Party doing right that our state party in Florida is not doing? We haven’t won a gubernatorial election in FL since about 1994. I wish my state had a more effective Democratic Party!

Celerity

(43,630 posts)
11. KY has run better candidates, IMHO, for starters, and the KY Dem state party has not been a hot
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 05:02 PM
Aug 2023

mess like the FL state Dem party has been.

Lenny Flank

(13 posts)
5. if he kicks the bucket ...
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 04:48 PM
Aug 2023

... will we be able to invoke the McConnell Rule and not allow a Minority Leader to be appointed during an election year ... ?

(evil grin)

Bev54

(10,083 posts)
6. I am ok right now and Beshear has set something up so he can still appoint
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 04:50 PM
Aug 2023

a senator of his choosing. He will have a fight on his hands either way with the governorship may as well give the dems another senator.

Cha

(297,840 posts)
9. Really? can you tell me what
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 04:58 PM
Aug 2023

Gov Beshear has set up? I've read it both ways.

That would be amazing if only for a little while.

Still, Mitch Bucks trump & if someone like Rick trump humper Scott gets into minority leader it would be worse.

Bev54

(10,083 posts)
16. I didn't research it, but read an article awhile ago that he found a legal way
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 05:33 PM
Aug 2023

This is from a different article, the one I read was awhile ago but is basically the same thing

"Though his veto was overridden, Beshear wrote that the changes of SB 228 violated provisions of both the federal and state constitutions on how U.S. Senate vacancies could be filled.

Beshear said the changes violate the 17th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, which sought "to remove the power to select U.S. senators from political party bosses."

"It delegates the power to select a representative to an unelected, unaccountable political committee that only represents a fraction of Kentuckians, when a senator is supposed to represent all of us," Beshear wrote.

The 17th Amendment states that "the legislature of any State may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct."

Beshear also wrote in his veto statement that SB 228 violates Section 152 of Kentucky's constitution, which states a governor "shall" fill appointments or vacancies in the state at large. The governor wrote that "no conditions, qualifications, or limits are placed on that appointment power" in that section of the constitution."


https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2023/07/28/heres-how-kentuckys-law-works-for-filling-u-s-senate-vacancies/70484359007/

Cha

(297,840 posts)
17. Mahalo for that, Bev! Hoping for
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 06:00 PM
Aug 2023

Gov Beshear to be able to do what the Constitution says he can.

Beshear also wrote in his veto statement that SB 228 violates Section 152 of Kentucky's constitution, which states a governor "shall" fill appointments or vacancies in the state at large. The governor wrote that "no conditions, qualifications, or limits are placed on that appointment power" in that section of the constitution."

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2023/07/28/heres-how-kentuckys-law-works-for-filling-u-s-senate-vacancies/70484359007/

MaeScott

(878 posts)
7. If it comes to a vacancy
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 04:50 PM
Aug 2023

Andy should not fill it, just “think about it” and leave it open until election

Cha

(297,840 posts)
8. I agree.. and not just for this Excellent
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 04:53 PM
Aug 2023

reason I hadn't thought of.. TY!

Mitch is bad but who's next? Rick trump humper Schot?

At least mitch bucks trump.

waddirum

(980 posts)
10. Mitch ain't long for this world
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 05:01 PM
Aug 2023

Wishing and hoping and praying won’t make any difference in the timing of his inevitable resignation.
If it happens before the election, so be it. Gov. Beshear should appoint whoever he wishes and let them sue.

drmeow

(5,029 posts)
18. As long as the results are in
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 08:07 PM
Aug 2023

works for me! I just picked 12/1 cause I knew it was post election - it was an arbitrary date.

zuul

(14,628 posts)
15. Someone needs to give him hourly B-12 shots then.
Wed Aug 30, 2023, 05:21 PM
Aug 2023

Dude ain't looking too good. Vultures are already circling overhead.

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