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TomSlick

(10,947 posts)
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 06:38 PM Sep 2023

Covid is back and it ain't playing.

My elderly father is in the cardiac care unit with elevated heart enzymes which the doctors attribute to Covid pneumonia. I am almost sure he contracted Covid the weekend before at another hospital when he was being treated for a fall. (I was nearly the only one in he place wearing a mask.)

My slightly less elderly mother is in the bed with relatively minor symptoms. My wife developed Covid symptoms yesterday but she has improved to the point that she is not playing "Komm, süßer Tod" on a loop. I thought I had dodged the bullet when I tested negative on Sunday morning and night. To day, the test strip was brilliant red (I tested twice).

I really had no symptoms in the morning but in the afternoon, I developed a low grade fever, headache and nausea. Tylenol will knock down the fever but there is no relief from the headache and nausea.

Fortunately, my brother and SiL drove in to check on Dad, so it's their turn to care for the elders. (It's almost worth the headache and nausea to get a break.)

At least in southern Arkansas, Covid is back. The hospitals are filing up and buying test kits requires a treasure hunt.

Everyone mask up and be careful out there.

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Covid is back and it ain't playing. (Original Post) TomSlick Sep 2023 OP
coworker of mine came back from ireland with it..... Takket Sep 2023 #1
I managed to eat some chicken soup (the universal cure) but I could not swallow dry crackers. TomSlick Sep 2023 #4
ug, i'm so sorry. Hope you feel better soon. Takket Sep 2023 #9
Keep an eye out after you recover for symptoms of pancreatitis. Ms. Toad Sep 2023 #65
Warn your co-worker about post-COVID pancreatitis Ms. Toad Sep 2023 #64
Husband and I got it on a trip to Scotland in June! cilla4progress Sep 2023 #91
Hmmmm my wife's god-daughter just came back from Ireland and got her mother sick with it Fullduplexxx Sep 2023 #96
My sister just got it for the 2nd time.. whathehell Sep 2023 #2
It's back in Cali too... FirstLight Sep 2023 #3
Not to burst your bubble but this is my first go-round. TomSlick Sep 2023 #6
It's back in Cali too... LenaBaby61 Sep 2023 #22
Where in Cali? Silver Gaia Sep 2023 #52
I'm in Southern CA Juneboarder Sep 2023 #94
Thanks. I'm in Northern CA, Sacramento area. Silver Gaia Sep 2023 #103
Nausea, too? cyclonefence Sep 2023 #5
And now dizziness. TomSlick Sep 2023 #7
Daughter is just getting over it. justgamma Sep 2023 #54
oh cheezy peezy cyclonefence Sep 2023 #78
Best wishes to your father, and everyone take good care of yourselves. Hortensis Sep 2023 #8
well of course it is back Skittles Sep 2023 #10
REALLY THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Sep 2023 #24
Tell that to my dumbass maggot neighbor not fooled Sep 2023 #30
When someone makes a remark about my mask appleannie1 Sep 2023 #102
It's also a rapidly mutating virus Warpy Sep 2023 #55
It would have come back regardless of how many precautions were taken. maxsolomon Sep 2023 #90
Exactly hueymahl Sep 2023 #98
K&R UTUSN Sep 2023 #11
I had it before they acknoledged it. Jaunary 2020. Worst cough (comparable to bronchitis) and ended Evolve Dammit Sep 2023 #12
Mr. And I had it also before it was named. FalloutShelter Sep 2023 #58
I hope your family all recover quickly, Tom. brer cat Sep 2023 #13
Counterpoint. eggplant Sep 2023 #14
Actually doesn't counter the currently circulating variants. summer_in_TX Sep 2023 #37
Oh that won't go down well. BannonsLiver Sep 2023 #88
For those unacquainted with the Bach chorale, Igel Sep 2023 #15
Great title and the awful truth.. appalachiablue Sep 2023 #16
"Come, sweet Death." summer_in_TX Sep 2023 #39
My cousin came back from England last month with it. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2023 #17
Have you or other family members tried Paxlovid? central scrutinizer Sep 2023 #18
I had Covid a couple of months ago and moonscape Sep 2023 #62
My wife took Paxlovid late last year Random Boomer Sep 2023 #84
Anecdotally, Paxlovid works. haele Sep 2023 #89
Covid might ultimately infect everyone on the planet; but I intend to be the last one. WheelWalker Sep 2023 #19
I hope you're all feeling better soon. Alliepoo Sep 2023 #20
Check with your health insurance plan, Abigail_Adams Sep 2023 #97
My husband had to travel LAX to Chicago, 8/22-24. BadgerMom Sep 2023 #21
"We never stopped with masks." LenaBaby61 Sep 2023 #25
Keep in mind that your mask wearing protects others. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2023 #47
That is a long-debunked claim. Ms. Toad Sep 2023 #66
if they thought that, they must be terminally naive. Which of course, is possible. raccoon Sep 2023 #73
The virus is also transmittable through unprotected eyes. Marcuse Sep 2023 #82
Goodness. I hope everyone recovers soon. I never stopped wearing a mask. LoisB Sep 2023 #23
I don't let people into my house either ..... I'm in very good health for a 62 year old .... LenaBaby61 Sep 2023 #28
I have the same rule about not letting people wnylib Sep 2023 #38
I have an autoimmune disorder and kidney disease. No way am I letting them put me at risk. LenaBaby61 Sep 2023 #45
My AC quit working in July. wnylib Sep 2023 #53
I absolutely agree with you. People became complacent. I send my wishes for a speedy recovery to LoisB Sep 2023 #56
I'm 62 and vegan for 10 years and vegetarian for 5 years before that. Husband is at high risk MLAA Sep 2023 #63
We are in a very different place from 2020 or even the Tomconroy Sep 2023 #26
True the hospitals are not filling up dflprincess Sep 2023 #29
The Fair will help it spread everywhere. PlutosHeart Sep 2023 #41
In Mass. on Aug 26 there were 342 hospitalized with covid. Tomconroy Sep 2023 #46
"The hospitals are not filling up." BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #44
See 46 above. The hospitals will not fill up because of covid. Tomconroy Sep 2023 #48
The hospitals ARE filling up here. arkielib Sep 2023 #92
Guys, I wasn't looking to start a fight. TomSlick Sep 2023 #95
See 47 above. The hospitals will not fill up because of covid. Tomconroy Sep 2023 #49
Chill out. BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #59
Covid at this point is primarily a threat to the elderly, with weakened Tomconroy Sep 2023 #71
That has always been the case which was why they were prioritized for vaccines BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #72
The number of people who don't respond to the vaccine is relatively few. Tomconroy Sep 2023 #77
What you are describing among the "immunocompromised" BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #79
Apparently you didn't read the list. Tomconroy Sep 2023 #80
I read the list that you copied and pasted without any link, which is a copyright violation on DU BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #81
Try reading it again. And again and again. And again. Tomconroy Sep 2023 #83
There is zero in what I posted that says that the vaccine "doesn't protect diabetics" BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #85
The other metrics to watch... Pluvious Sep 2023 #99
Yup - those are often weeks ahead of actual positive (human) tests BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #100
IF they will give it to you JustAnotherGen Sep 2023 #50
A lot of doctors won't prescribe Paxlovid. My doctor won't. He says it's an expensive medication liberal_mama Sep 2023 #57
I have A.S. JustAnotherGen Sep 2023 #74
Immunity does not prevent long COVID. Ms. Toad Sep 2023 #67
Define long covid. Tomconroy Sep 2023 #69
Here is a Twitter thread (which I'm sure you won't read) Tomconroy Sep 2023 #70
Most interesting thread, thanks for sharing (nt) Pluvious Sep 2023 #101
You are very welcome. Tomconroy Sep 2023 #109
Geez...sorry for your troubles! PortTack Sep 2023 #27
Recommend getting your doc to prescribe Paxlovid mn9driver Sep 2023 #31
In my corner of heaven it's the flu. KentuckyWoman Sep 2023 #32
I hope you all feel better soon! yardwork Sep 2023 #33
Just reported on TV that Jill Biden has tested positive for it. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2023 #34
SoCal here. My friend and her family have it and one of my extended family members. Kaiser no longer chia Sep 2023 #35
Wear KN-95s. I know 6 people infected right now orthoclad Sep 2023 #36
I was tested for covid on Saturday-positive. Went to ER with a Blood oxygen level of 86 and temp of debm55 Sep 2023 #42
Med facilities have gotten careless orthoclad Sep 2023 #61
My Neighbor just got it PuppyBismark Sep 2023 #40
So sorry to hear this Tom. Irish_Dem Sep 2023 #43
Covid is showing us the vagaries and varieties of the human immune system PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2023 #51
I had it a month ago. sarchasm Sep 2023 #60
Yes, a lot of folks on Paxlovid test negative within a few days of starting, then test positive. SunSeeker Sep 2023 #68
Paxlovid. Get it. Trueblue Texan Sep 2023 #75
My son and his partner came home from Scotland mnhtnbb Sep 2023 #76
Conservative maskholes are eager to share it with as many as possible IronLionZion Sep 2023 #86
IF anyone even thinks they have been exposed, call in a script for PAXLOVID Moostache Sep 2023 #87
Immuno-compromised friend of mine stayed healthy for three years shrike3 Sep 2023 #93
yep. I'm certain I was exposed to it ecstatic Sep 2023 #104
An update. TomSlick Sep 2023 #105
Oh nooooo Katcat Sep 2023 #106
Wear LeftLife Sep 2023 #107
Amen. TomSlick Sep 2023 #108

Takket

(21,255 posts)
1. coworker of mine came back from ireland with it.....
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 06:42 PM
Sep 2023

her sister got it first. she felt bad, they attributed it to a hangover, as they flew home. after getting home my coworker came down with it and said she "could not keep anything down" and "had never been so sick in her life". She's better now but she said not to mess around with this thing and be careful.

Godspeed to everyone that was on the plane with her and her sister, because they're screwed.

TomSlick

(10,947 posts)
4. I managed to eat some chicken soup (the universal cure) but I could not swallow dry crackers.
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 06:53 PM
Sep 2023

They just wouldn't go down with my gagging. I managed to get them down by soaking them in the soup. It's all sitting very uneasily just now.

Ms. Toad

(33,761 posts)
65. Keep an eye out after you recover for symptoms of pancreatitis.
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 11:52 PM
Sep 2023

COVID gave me pancreatitis as a going away present. The version I got was a GI version - based on the symptoms others got.

Ms. Toad

(33,761 posts)
64. Warn your co-worker about post-COVID pancreatitis
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 11:50 PM
Sep 2023

I got COVID more than a year ago - although I didn't have GI symptoms, a large portion of the others who caught the same version did. I ended up in the hospital 2 months later with pancreatitis - and learned the hard way that COVID (particularly a version that hits the GI system) can cause pancreatitis.

cilla4progress

(24,411 posts)
91. Husband and I got it on a trip to Scotland in June!
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 11:50 AM
Sep 2023

We had to come home after 3 days!

We rarely get to travel out of the country, so, a big bummer.

FirstLight

(13,331 posts)
3. It's back in Cali too...
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 06:51 PM
Sep 2023

We got the masks back out for easy access in the car, wash hands at everything etc.

After the "holiday weekend" it will be interesting to see what surges happen.

I've been blessed, as far as I know, even with an autoimmune disease I haven't gotten it! Now I gotta go knock on some trees for good luck!

LenaBaby61

(6,940 posts)
22. It's back in Cali too...
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 07:53 PM
Sep 2023

I'm a former RN and I never did stop wearing my mask when I went out in public, nor did I stop socially distancing. More hospitals in California and up north are telling people to wear their masks when they come into the hospital now as well. I had my flu shot, am up to date on my vaccines and will stay on top of them as each one is released and as long as covid exists, and covid's not ever really stopped.

Juneboarder

(1,729 posts)
94. I'm in Southern CA
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 01:07 PM
Sep 2023

Husband and I both just got over covid for the first time and several people we know here in the San Diego area have had it or are battling it presently.

Silver Gaia

(4,474 posts)
103. Thanks. I'm in Northern CA, Sacramento area.
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 04:43 PM
Sep 2023

My next door neighbors both just had it about 3 weeks ago, but they are young. It was like the flu for them.

TomSlick

(10,947 posts)
7. And now dizziness.
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 06:57 PM
Sep 2023

I got up to go to the bathroom and staggered like a drunk. (All I've had to drink are sodas.)

justgamma

(3,656 posts)
54. Daughter is just getting over it.
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 09:30 PM
Sep 2023

Her only symptom was the dizziness. The meds they gave her for that messed with her sugars. 10 days and she couldn't even see to watch tv. It took 2 weeks for her to get back to normal.

He Bf had it at the same time and only ran a fever for 2 days and was better.

Certainly hope your dizzy doesn't last long. No fun.

cyclonefence

(4,477 posts)
78. oh cheezy peezy
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 06:20 AM
Sep 2023

I had what I guess was one of the variants (because I'm vacced and boosted out the wazoo and I mask everywhere) and it was bad enough to put me in the hospital. Now I'm going to throw up, too? (I'm already dizzy due to inner ear prob).

Well, a new super-booster is due out in a few weeks, so maybe the rest of us can avoid what you and your poor family are going through.

I hope you and yours get well fast. It sounds pretty shitty. Hang in there, buddy.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. Best wishes to your father, and everyone take good care of yourselves.
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 07:02 PM
Sep 2023

"Antivirals ASAP and up to 5 days."

Skittles

(152,852 posts)
10. well of course it is back
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 07:10 PM
Sep 2023

thanks to all the stupid, selfish assholes who couldn't be bothered to take even the simplest steps to avoid getting it....and if I received money every time someone says, "well, I was careful EXCEPT for when I (fill in the idiotic reason here)", I would be getting wealthy.

Covid is here to stay.

not fooled

(5,783 posts)
30. Tell that to my dumbass maggot neighbor
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 08:20 PM
Sep 2023

I live for the time being (already bought a house far, far away and am packing to move) in dumbass SW AZ, armpit town yuma to be exact. Many morans here--red don didn't visit multiple times for nothing.

Last week I brought up the subject of masking to this neighbor. He told me masks don't work. I think his "rationale" was that people often wear them askew so no protection is afforded. I told him that's the fault of dumbasses, not the masks. Not sure where he was going with this--it's virtually impossible for me to follow how his mind works. But, he has a point--there was and is a lot of resistance to wearing masks in this place. I get funny looks at the grocery store when I walk in masked. Good luck to all those gambling with their health.

appleannie1

(5,005 posts)
102. When someone makes a remark about my mask
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 04:24 PM
Sep 2023

I tell them I am just coming from my doctor and I tested positive. I am wearing the mask because I just picked up food and water for two weeks quarantine and also to pick up my anti-viral meds and don't want to give it to anyone. I say it in a louder than normal voice. Everyone within hearing distance backs up. Amazing how fast even the non-believers back up. My daughter is an nurse. She wears her scrubs to the store. During the worst of COVID everyone that saw her went to a different aisle.

Warpy

(110,524 posts)
55. It's also a rapidly mutating virus
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 09:31 PM
Sep 2023

which means that it will most likely join flu as needing frequent jabs as new mutations pop up. I said the same thing 3 years ago when the alphabet soup first started.

This latest variant seems to be a little less contagious than the others, but the others are still out there, too.

maxsolomon

(32,736 posts)
90. It would have come back regardless of how many precautions were taken.
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 11:37 AM
Sep 2023

It's endemic now. School starts; viruses get exchanged.

I fully expect to get it again, despite my antisocial lifesyle. That's why I have 5 shots on board.

The Flu comes back every year. So will Covid.

Evolve Dammit

(16,389 posts)
12. I had it before they acknoledged it. Jaunary 2020. Worst cough (comparable to bronchitis) and ended
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 07:15 PM
Sep 2023

up with Pneumonia. Then in March, we all got sent home. Whole family had it, started in November 2019. We are fortunate. I had two family members and a close friend die, dead, gone.
I blame the orange anus for all the denial and total bullshit spewed costing us over 1 MILLION of our citizens. His reflexive lying and co-opting CDC and other entities led to that many deaths. Never should have been that many and it's all due to the chronic lies. At a time when we should have come together, he spurred further division and we all saw it play out; anti-maskers, anti-vaxxers. I lost lots of faith in this country from what we all witnessed.

FalloutShelter

(11,567 posts)
58. Mr. And I had it also before it was named.
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 09:41 PM
Sep 2023

I had some long COVID after party…fainted a couple of times, Brain fog, heart palpitations. Luckily it went away after about seven months. Both are vaxed to the max and we will get the new jab as soon as it is available.
Mask up kids, it’s going to be another bumpy ride.

brer cat

(24,046 posts)
13. I hope your family all recover quickly, Tom.
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 07:18 PM
Sep 2023

I also hope the new boosters are ready soon. I had Covid once and that is enough.

summer_in_TX

(2,630 posts)
37. Actually doesn't counter the currently circulating variants.
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 08:47 PM
Sep 2023

The EG.5, or "Eris," strain as a variant of interest. EG.5 is now the dominant variant in the U.S. according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC),1 while also accounting for a growing proportion of cases across the globe. The FL 1.5.1, or "Fornax," variant is also beginning to surge in parts of the U.S. Both are mutations of omicron.

Symptoms for Eris are reported to be the same as past variants, including a fever, cough, sore throat, fatigue, runny nose, and change in taste and smell.

“While EG.5 has shown increased prevalence, growth advantage, and immune escape properties, there have been no reported changes in disease severity to date,” the WHO said in a risk evaluation published Wednesday.

It added that these properties may lead the variant to become dominant in some countries, or indeed globally.


Fornax symptoms include: Sore throat, runny or blocked nose, cough with or without phlegm, and headaches. It is highly transmissible, but may not be more likely to lead to hospitalizations. Researchers are still figuring it out.

Glad to hear that variant at the link isn't going to be terribly problematic. But unfortunately others are.

Igel

(35,090 posts)
15. For those unacquainted with the Bach chorale,
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 07:30 PM
Sep 2023
(I think it's a bit slow, but refuse to even listen to the anime/Evangelion recension, much less accept that something like the mere existence of part of Attack on Titan synced to the Bach chorale).

Bach CDs take up a shelf on my CD "bookcase."

greatauntoftriplets

(175,558 posts)
17. My cousin came back from England last month with it.
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 07:36 PM
Sep 2023

He thought that he had dodged it, but it caught up with him. I hope that you, your wife, and parents recover well.

I wasn't very sick when I had it, but it took so long to go away.

central scrutinizer

(11,587 posts)
18. Have you or other family members tried Paxlovid?
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 07:38 PM
Sep 2023

I got Covid in July, 2022 and started the five day cycle of Paxlovid. Symptoms were gone in 36 hours but I stayed in quarantine for another seven days

Random Boomer

(4,153 posts)
84. My wife took Paxlovid late last year
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 09:14 AM
Sep 2023

She came back from a family reunion and -- surprise, surprise -- one of her brothers had spread covid at the event. At age 70, that could have been really serious, but she was prescribed Paxlovid and she never felt worse than suffering a common cold.

Even though we didn't take any special precautions at home, apparently I never caught it. My test results were always negative.

haele

(12,549 posts)
89. Anecdotally, Paxlovid works.
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 10:55 AM
Sep 2023

Both myself and Laz have taken it, and within 3 days we were symptom free. The doctor also said it reduces risk of Long COVID complications, which Laz already has long Covid (LC) issues from Covid caught in early 2020 and 2022, so we're waiting the three to four weeks it typically takes for his L C symptoms to either get worse or hopefully get better.
Maybe Paxlovid can keep his LC Neuro problems from getting worse.

Haele

Alliepoo

(2,151 posts)
20. I hope you're all feeling better soon.
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 07:41 PM
Sep 2023

There is a website ihealthlabs.com that I order Covid tests from. They are reasonably priced and I figure it’s a good idee to have a couple or a few on hand. I’m going to order some seeing that Covid is kicking up again.

BadgerMom

(2,761 posts)
21. My husband had to travel LAX to Chicago, 8/22-24.
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 07:42 PM
Sep 2023

He attended a business meeting and returned home. On the 27th he attended a local high school football game to watch our nephews. On 8/26 there was a family baptism with about 80 people.

On Monday 8/28 I felt not quite myself. I tested Tuesday. Negative. On Tuesday night he said he felt poorly. By Wednesday he felt really badly and scheduled a test at CVS. The first available was yesterday. Thursday he was positive on an at-home test. Thursday I was still negative and improving. Friday we both were very sick. He never had a fever. I developed one which I still have. Yesterday he was positive on the CVS test. It’s the first time he’s tested positive. We’re fully vaccinated having had our last shots at the end of April.

We were to leave for London and Amsterdam this coming Friday. Today we moved everything to October.

We never stopped with masks, but so many don’t wear them. No one who attended the business meetings is sick, but the plane and airports are vectors as was the football game. No one at the baptism got sick. I’m guessing the business trip did it.

LenaBaby61

(6,940 posts)
25. "We never stopped with masks."
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 07:56 PM
Sep 2023

Same here

Blessings, and hopeully you, hubby and family will be okay and remain mostly healthy.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,593 posts)
47. Keep in mind that your mask wearing protects others.
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 09:16 PM
Sep 2023

So even if you are masked, if infected people aren't masked, and your in any kind of group gathering with those people, your risk of getting Covid is quite high.

Ms. Toad

(33,761 posts)
66. That is a long-debunked claim.
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 12:00 AM
Sep 2023

If you are wearing N95, KF94, or certain well-fitted fabric masks, you are well-protected.

That incorrect assertion seems to have been started when the powers that be thought that altruism might encourage more people to wear masks than self-protection.

raccoon

(31,052 posts)
73. if they thought that, they must be terminally naive. Which of course, is possible.
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 04:18 AM
Sep 2023
That incorrect assertion seems to have been started when the powers that be thought that altruism might encourage more people to wear masks than self-protection.


Marcuse

(7,351 posts)
82. The virus is also transmittable through unprotected eyes.
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 08:20 AM
Sep 2023
As with the nose and mouth, doctors say the eyes may be a route of infection if someone with the virus coughs or sneezes nearby. Infection is also possible when rubbing your eyes with hands that have been exposed to the virus.

Tears from an infected person could also spread the virus.[link:https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-06-04/can-i-get-covid-19-through-my-eyes-or-ears#:~:text=The%20skin%20in%20the%20outer,Eye%20and%20Ear%20in%20Boston.|

LenaBaby61

(6,940 posts)
28. I don't let people into my house either ..... I'm in very good health for a 62 year old ....
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 08:11 PM
Sep 2023

But then again, I've been totally vegan for 3 plus decades, and that helps I'm sure.

I don't intend to catch covid from anyone IF I can help it, and like I said NO ONE comes into my house. A friend whose vaccinated stopped wearing her mask, and let up on the hand sanitizers and I told her months ago, be careful. She thought that since she had all of the vaccines, she'd be okay. I told her if I was her I'd still wear my mask, socially distance and stay using the sanitizers et al. She came down with Covid last week and is still sick, although she is recovering thanks to Paxlovid. Friday evening, I cooked her a huge pot of chicken soup, bought her some popping corn and toppings, sherbet Ice cream, canned fruit and the peppermint candies that she loves, and I loaded up on the hand sanitizers and disinfectants, and I dropped those items off on her porch to her. I sure as hell wasn't going into her house. She truly appreciated everything. She's such a good friend.

wnylib

(21,146 posts)
38. I have the same rule about not letting people
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 08:50 PM
Sep 2023

into my place. But I live in a multi-storied senior apartment complex, so I have to let in fire inspectors once a year and maintenance people if I have any problems. I require them to wear an N95 to enter. Some comply without a problem. Others give me an argument, but I fight back (verbally) and refuse to back down.

I have an autoimmune disorder and kidney disease. No way am I letting them put me at risk.



LenaBaby61

(6,940 posts)
45. I have an autoimmune disorder and kidney disease. No way am I letting them put me at risk.
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 09:13 PM
Sep 2023

I know that fire inspectors have to come in. NO issues there. But others?

Be well, and PLEASE take care of yourself

wnylib

(21,146 posts)
53. My AC quit working in July.
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 09:29 PM
Sep 2023

I am on an upper floor of the building with 2 west windows, no shade, and the afternoon sun. It is not liveable without AC in July, especially not with this year's heat waves.

LoisB

(6,854 posts)
56. I absolutely agree with you. People became complacent. I send my wishes for a speedy recovery to
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 09:33 PM
Sep 2023

your friend.

MLAA

(16,975 posts)
63. I'm 62 and vegan for 10 years and vegetarian for 5 years before that. Husband is at high risk
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 10:11 PM
Sep 2023

so I’m very careful and wear a mask and wash hands the minute I get home. I noticed the nurse at his Drs office just started wearing a mask again last week. Good luck!

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
26. We are in a very different place from 2020 or even the
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 08:00 PM
Sep 2023

Winter of 2021-2. Most everyone has some immunity either by vaccination or prior infection. The hospitals are not filling up. Covid is a threat for serious illness mainly to the elderly who have weakened immunity systems. The figure I read a couple of weeks ago is that the average age for someone dying of covid is over 80.
Get the boosters and take Paxlovid at the first sign of symptoms.

dflprincess

(27,988 posts)
29. True the hospitals are not filling up
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 08:17 PM
Sep 2023

but my niece, who works at one of the larger Minneapolis hospitals, tells me they are seeing a sharp increase in covid cases.

They are waiting to see if the cases go up even more as a result of the State Fair which began August 24th and just ended today & attracted record crowds nearly every day.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
46. In Mass. on Aug 26 there were 342 hospitalized with covid.
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 09:15 PM
Sep 2023

Of that only 114 were admitted primarily because of covid. The rest just tested positive while being there for other reasons (Mass. is apparently the only place that keeps those statistics).
Covid is increasing but from the lowest levels of the covid era. Last year there was a small late summer wave and a slightly larger winter wave or wavelet. No reason to think this year will be diifferent unless it's because the waves will be smaller.

BumRushDaShow

(125,479 posts)
44. "The hospitals are not filling up."
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 09:09 PM
Sep 2023

The fall/winter peak over the past couple years (notably with Omicron variants like the XBBs which are the predominate - not that "new" one), has been between November and March (which includes a number of holidays). We are still at the beginning of September. The hope is that it slows and peaks lower.

The latest (using the "new" drop down item) hospitalizations plot from CDC - https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_weeklyhospitaladmissions_select_00

arkielib

(80 posts)
92. The hospitals ARE filling up here.
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 12:47 PM
Sep 2023

My 95 year-old father-in-law could not get admitted to any of the hospitals in our area for days and was stuck in the ER. It is all well and good to dismiss Covid and say it is mostly affecting elderly people - unless you ARE one of those elderly people. My parents, both in their late 80s drove to a Walmart an hour away to pick up my husband’s Paxlovid Rx because none of the pharmacies in our area have any more. Both my husband and I are too sick to go get it. They wore kn95 masks and constantly sanitize their hands, so I am hoping they will be okay.

TomSlick

(10,947 posts)
95. Guys, I wasn't looking to start a fight.
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 01:24 PM
Sep 2023

I was just reporting what is going on with my family.

While the hospitals are not filing up nation-wide, they are in Southwest and Central Arkansas. I don't know if it's caused by Covid but the local hospitals are in a diversion program and scrabbling for rooms. I assumed it was Covid related because, at least by local word of mouth, there is so much Covid in the area.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
49. See 47 above. The hospitals will not fill up because of covid.
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 09:23 PM
Sep 2023

Period.
Look at your damn chart where we were last summer and where we are now.

BumRushDaShow

(125,479 posts)
59. Chill out.
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 09:44 PM
Sep 2023

One of my cousins was on Martha's Vineyard that week/weekend around August 12 and 3 days later when she got home she tested positive for COVID. She did not go to the hospital but ended up with 2 courses of Paxlovid after going through a re-bound.

She is in her 50s.

The problem is what might happen in the nursing homes, rehab facilities, and longterm care facilities that tend to have more elderly and those with a myriad of medical conditions. There is also the issue of many medical staff who had stopped masking in hospitals and those other medical facilities.

And this is my take away that you ignored -

The hope is that it slows and peaks lower.


And my "damn chart" is NOT "mine" but CDC's "damn chart" and it's clear what is going on at the end of that plot. I will REPEAT - the hope is that it slows and peaks lower.
 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
71. Covid at this point is primarily a threat to the elderly, with weakened
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 02:08 AM
Sep 2023

Immune systems. I'll grant you that. The failure to concentrate on preventive measures for those 65 and over is, well, an ongoing failure. Many share the blame for it.

As Dr. Jha recently said: Virtually no one should be dying from covid at this point.

BumRushDaShow

(125,479 posts)
72. That has always been the case which was why they were prioritized for vaccines
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 03:54 AM
Sep 2023

but it is also a threat to anyone of any age who has a compromised immune system - whether due to something like rheumatoid arthritis like one of my sisters or someone who has had an organ transplant, like her hubby. And this also includes those who have undergone cancer treatments like my other sister.. All of them obviously take precautions but even with that, one of my sisters had ended up getting it last year and it took months to clear, because she eventually had what was dubbed "flurona" (flu + coronavirus), forcing her to go off her infusions that suppressed her immune system needed to combat the rheumatoid.

In May of 2021, the call to "throw off your masks" came and in came Delta, the now-forgotten variant that took off over that summer with a rare summer surge. Delta flipped the "elderly" script with most of the deaths happening among the under-75s -



And as it died down, it was quickly followed by Omicron in late fall, another that was initially dismissed until it tore through not just the elderly, but children as well, something that too many also dismissed until the numbers made it impossible to ignore - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142844876



The push to get children up-to-date with the vaccine has been a chore. It made a difference in 2021 and would today.



You can see from the beginning through last year, how when certain protective behaviors were removed, the virus came surging back -



But at this point, the vaccinations are making all the difference the world in terms of, as they say over and over, "severe illness" (including hospitalizations), and "death".

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
77. The number of people who don't respond to the vaccine is relatively few.
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 05:41 AM
Sep 2023

Most who are in some sense immunocompromised are still protected from serious disease and death. I think this is the latest learning. Although the list is sort of long it actually covers a small amount of people. This isn't well understood as you can tell from reading this thread. Dr Jha has talked about this but I can't find the quote at the moment:

People typically considered moderately or severely immune compromised include the following:

People currently being treated for cancers of the blood or organs (so-called “solid tumor” cancers)
People with blood-related cancers, regardless of current treatment status, including those with chronic lymphocytic leukemia, non-Hodgkin lymphoma, multiple myeloma and acute leukemia
People who received an organ transplant and take immunosuppressive medications to prevent rejection of the organ
People who had a stem cell transplant or received CAR T-cell therapy less than 2 years ago or who are taking immunosuppressive medications
People with conditions that are considered to cause permanent immune deficiency because the condition affects cells of their immune system, such as DiGeorge syndrome or Wiskott-Aldrich syndrome
People infected with HIV whose infection is untreated or considered to be at an advanced stage
People currently being treated with one of the following types of medications:
High-dose corticosteroids (more than 20 mg prednisone or similar medications per day)
Alkylating agents
Antimetabolites
Transplant-related immunosuppressive medications
Cancer chemotherapeutic medications that are considered severely immunosuppressive (e.g., tumor-necrosis, or TNF, blockers)
Biologic agents that suppress or modulate the immune response (e.g., B-cell depleting agents)
People who should work with their healthcare provider to determine their need for additional doses include:

People taking medications that make them uncertain whether they would be included in the list of individuals mentioned above
People with immune-system-related conditions not specifically mentioned above
People preparing to start one of the above-mentioned medications
People not considered to be in this category include:

People who do not have compromised immunity.
People without a spleen.
People who had cancer but are no longer being treated.
People with chronic conditions that do not involve the immune system or require treatment with high doses of corticosteroids, such as diabetes, asthma, COPD, kidney disease, heart conditions, sickle cell disease, among others. If you are not sure, check with your healthcare provider.
Last updated: April 25, 2023

BumRushDaShow

(125,479 posts)
79. What you are describing among the "immunocompromised"
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 06:24 AM
Sep 2023

is not really a "small number" of people - particularly if you live in an urban area where the population is greater and thus the total numbers are higher in those locations compared to suburban or rural areas.

For example, RA has been estimated to affect about 1.3 million. In the scheme of a country with 330 million, it "looks small" but it's STILL 1.3 MILLION and again, anyone living in an urban location will have more around them.

And when it comes to cancer - there are some 18 million estimated survivors by the National Cancer Institute as of last year. These are people who had some sort of radiation/chemo/proton therapy that has left their immune systems weakened.

You have an estimated near-500,000 living organ transplant recipients - another vulnerable group.

And if you include those who have chronic medical conditions, you can add on 37 million with diabetes. And you have nearly 13 million with some form of COPD.

And the worst is the prevalence of some kind of heart disease (notably including needing treatment for hypertension), which encompasses nearly 1/2 of the U.S. population.

I think the issue with the vaccine is not just "response" at this point but duration of coverage, where it has been shown to wane over some "x" amount of time that might be in fewer months than someone who is non-compromised, and those who are compromised would need that boost more often. But the hope is that over time, the body might eventually say "okay - I've seen something like this before and I'll just keep some of this on the back burner for the next time" and not just completely "forget" as if this were a "one and done".

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
80. Apparently you didn't read the list.
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 07:08 AM
Sep 2023

The groups you describe aren't on it.

I can only hope that people stop relying on the claims of anonymous people on DU and seek out people like Dr Jha and Prof Veldoen who actually know what they are talking about. But my hopes are not high


The cdc link:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/people-who-are-immunocompromised.html#:~:text=Some%20people%20who%20are%20immunocompromised,of%20immunosuppressive%20medications%20or%20treatments.

It does not mention diabetes, cancer survivors, RSV or the like.
Sheesh

Dr. Jha on preventing nearly every covid death:

Jha went so far as to suggest that if everyone followed the recommended vaccine and treatment course, they could "prevent nearly every death in America from COVID."

"If folks get their updated vaccines and they get treated if they have a breakthrough infection, we can prevent essentially every COVID death in America," he said. "That is a remarkable fact."

You are literally spreading covid misinformation.

BumRushDaShow

(125,479 posts)
81. I read the list that you copied and pasted without any link, which is a copyright violation on DU
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 08:00 AM
Sep 2023

Your list, that you apparently didn't even read, includes these categories -

1.) People typically considered moderately or severely immune compromised include the following:

2.) People who should work with their healthcare provider to determine their need for additional doses include:

3.) People not considered to be in this category include:

I selected the groups I did (with links for the numbers) because these are people who can be and have been negatively impacted by COVID. Note that the last category ALSO includes the "If you are not sure, check with your healthcare provider" caveat.

I.e., it is idiotic that anyone would randomly exclude anyone who has a chronic medical condition notably because SARS-CoV-2 has been found to have caused a myriad of issues outside of respiratory, including renal and cardiac - and to some who were previously healthy.

Early on in the pandemic, you had people die due to the high level of dismissiveness by some, regarding something as simple as "gastrointestinal" symptoms because they had so fixated on just a handful of "valid symptoms" which were boiled down to "only" a "cough and a fever". The arrogance was breathtaking as it was later found that more and more symptoms WERE related to the infection including the "loss of taste and smell", gastro-related like diarrhea, and severe fatigue and headaches.

It was also found that asymptomatic people COULD and do shed virus and can transmit it. It was summarily dismissed early on and finally acknowledged months later.

I posted to you regarding what has been going on with this virus here - https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=3125278

The ACE-2 receptor mechanism of this virus is what expands the potential danger and each variant has been found to have a tendency to cluster at certain locations on organs in the body, given enough of a viral load, that are OUTSIDE OF of the nasal passages and bronchial organelles in the lungs, interestingly enough due to how the spike protein mutates.

I rely on governmental authorities, not one or two individuals, and before retiring, worked for a health-related federal agency for over 30 years and my degree is in chemistry. During this whole fiasco, I watched both the FDA VRBPAC and CDC ACIP meetings from start to finish, where they discussed the vaccines, the data gathered (including the population infection stats), and where the panel members voted for approvals every step along the way. AND I posted about these sessions in a number of LBN OPs, and as replies in GD threads.

You need to expand your resource knowledge because it is sorely lacking.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
83. Try reading it again. And again and again. And again.
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 09:05 AM
Sep 2023

Your claims that the vaccine doesn't protect diabetics, cancer survivors and the like is covid misinformation.
As Dr Jha points out, the vaccine protects virtually everyone.

BumRushDaShow

(125,479 posts)
85. There is zero in what I posted that says that the vaccine "doesn't protect diabetics"
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 09:22 AM
Sep 2023

Right there you have introduced a false and OTT reaction to what I have posted.

What degrees, or even "experience" do you have, if any, in any kind of "science".

I have actually given nationwide training within my agency on biotech-related testing methods including gel electrophoresis (which is what is used nowadays for the COVID PCR test) and including lysis of genetic material.

It doesn't seem that you understand the mechanisms behind the virus and have merely been posting info from tweets by a respected physician who once worked in the as part of Biden's COVID response (am assuming that is who you are quoting) and who recently left back in June. You need to understand what it is they are saying.

Pluvious

(4,199 posts)
99. The other metrics to watch...
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 03:21 PM
Sep 2023

Are the rising stats on wastewater testing by city

That’s one that leads hospitalizations

BumRushDaShow

(125,479 posts)
100. Yup - those are often weeks ahead of actual positive (human) tests
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 03:35 PM
Sep 2023

This is also where they are starting to see the new variant BA.2.86, including NYC (so far no individual has been confirmed to have it there but it showed up in the wastewater there).

Just saw that the new BA variant has now been confirmed in Delaware.

JustAnotherGen

(31,486 posts)
50. IF they will give it to you
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 09:23 PM
Sep 2023

I have a severe auto immune disease. Had just turned 50 in February and came down with my first round of Covid in March. Felt fine that morning - severe distress by sun down. My husband takes me to urgent care, then to the hospital. My respiratory system was in distress - with an autoimmune disease that has caused my rib cage to close around my lungs.

They were hemming and hawing on giving me the antiviral. My husband called my specialist who demanded they release me so I could go to Summit hospital where I see her.

40 minutes later they gave me the prescription.

I have a theory about why they held back - and my white husband put it in my ear.

liberal_mama

(1,495 posts)
57. A lot of doctors won't prescribe Paxlovid. My doctor won't. He says it's an expensive medication
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 09:38 PM
Sep 2023

that should be passed out very sparingly. So much for "We have the tools!"

JustAnotherGen

(31,486 posts)
74. I have A.S.
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 04:36 AM
Sep 2023

Going ramrod straight. 4 people in my support group died from Covid. All ramrod straight instead of hunching of the spine. My lungs have nowhere to go.

Most painful thing I've experienced in my life - and I was a ballerina when I was younger - and had a lins franc break in my left foot in 2018.

Ms. Toad

(33,761 posts)
67. Immunity does not prevent long COVID.
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 12:05 AM
Sep 2023

According to Kaiser Family Foundation, currently 11% of the populationwhich has ever had COVID has long COVID. That's more than 1 in 10 who haven't been able to shake it - no matter how long ago they had COVID.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
70. Here is a Twitter thread (which I'm sure you won't read)
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 01:40 AM
Sep 2023

By an actual expert in the field, that carefully explains why you have always been wrong about long covid.

























Professor Veldoen, one of the world's leading immunological, is pointing out the difference between science and junk science.
 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
109. You are very welcome.
Wed Sep 6, 2023, 05:35 AM
Sep 2023

The next time someone posts about long covid ask them to define the term whether the studies they rely on had a control group and then ask what percentage of people recover. The silence will.be deafening.

KentuckyWoman

(6,635 posts)
32. In my corner of heaven it's the flu.
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 08:26 PM
Sep 2023

We have a couple local offices in the news for asking everyone to work from home. The offices have been open but not required. According to the news, some of these folks have already used their time off, so are taking unpaid days because they are too sick to login with their jammies on. That's bad flu.

The news made a point of saying this is flu not covid. However, the precautions are the same. Vaccine up, mask up, hand wash, limit crowded indoor situations where people may be sick. They think it is hitting early because the heat is keeping people indoors more.

chia

(2,235 posts)
35. SoCal here. My friend and her family have it and one of my extended family members. Kaiser no longer
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 08:44 PM
Sep 2023

gives out free tests, two 2-test boxes came to $30.00

Symptoms included 102 degree fever for multiple days, coughing, sore throat, headache, body ache. First time in many months I've known anyone who's tested positive.

orthoclad

(2,679 posts)
36. Wear KN-95s. I know 6 people infected right now
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 08:45 PM
Sep 2023

the most since the beginning. It's very bad, and it's rapidly getting worse.

Surgical masks help, but they're about 20% less effective at protecting the wearer than KN95s and equivalent. In bulk, KNs are about a buck, and they are FAR more wearable than surgicals, which were not designed to protect the surgeon, but to keep the surgeon from infecting the patient. KNs don't lay on the lips and interfere with speech, and they don't get soggy.

Good luck to you and to your family!

debm55

(21,955 posts)
42. I was tested for covid on Saturday-positive. Went to ER with a Blood oxygen level of 86 and temp of
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 09:05 PM
Sep 2023

96. This was the first for me, have all my shots and boosters. Had iv of liquids and Paxlovid and sent home. I was vert tired my thinking felt foggy, Been driving my sister around to UPMC in Pittsburgh for an operation. NO masks required, should have worn one anyway.

Irish_Dem

(44,179 posts)
43. So sorry to hear this Tom.
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 09:07 PM
Sep 2023

I hope you and the family have a speedy recovery.

Thanks for the warning.
I am getting my masks out again.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,593 posts)
51. Covid is showing us the vagaries and varieties of the human immune system
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 09:25 PM
Sep 2023

All of the many stories: have not had it, had it twice, know people who died, know those with long Covid, and so on, just emphasize (at least to me) how variable the human immune system is.

There are probably many and complicated reasons for this. Genetics. Previous exposure to various diseases. Lifestyle. Exposure to other kinds of things. And so on.

I've had the J&J one and done vaccine, and a booster. Need another booster, I'm sure. Meanwhile, I'm not that often in any kinds of crowds. I did attend Bubonicon, a science-fiction thing in Albuquerque last week (and yes, the name means what you think it means) and so far there hasn't been a notice from the committee that people who were there are reporting Covid. Unlike a lot of other s-f things recently. We weren't required to mask, although some people did. Not very many. Meanwhile, I'm retired, live alone, don't go out all that much. I have one friend with whom I do lunch every other week. I did go to a theater to see "Barbie" several days ago, but the theater wasn't full. A few were masked.

My sister was very annoyed to get Covid recently despite vaccine and boosters. But it's also clear that getting vaccine & boosters greatly reduce the severity.

Oh, and this ongoing saga also shows a lot about evolution, how a virus, in this case, can quickly change and evolve and continue to infect.

sarchasm

(995 posts)
60. I had it a month ago.
Mon Sep 4, 2023, 09:50 PM
Sep 2023

I'm 69 and fully vaxed and boosted 4 times. I got it somewhere in the SE on business. Either Greensboro, Charleston, or Charlotte. 3 others in my group of 10 got it and we were all out of service for 10 days or so.

I started feeling symptoms and tested positive and started Paxlovid that day. I tested negative 3 days later, then tested positive again on the 4th day, then negative the next day and ever since.

Some of the others in my group had similar experiences. Negative one day then positive the next, then negative again.

Mask up everyone.

SunSeeker

(51,056 posts)
68. Yes, a lot of folks on Paxlovid test negative within a few days of starting, then test positive.
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 12:17 AM
Sep 2023

Usually they test positive a day or two after finishing off the 5-day pack of Paxlovid pills.

They're doing clinical trials on making Paxlovid a 10-day regimen instead of a 5-day, to prevent that rebound effect.

mnhtnbb

(31,256 posts)
76. My son and his partner came home from Scotland
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 05:14 AM
Sep 2023

with it in mid July. My son was over his symptoms and negative within a week. His partner took Paxlovid and didn't finally test negative for about three weeks. He lost his sense of taste and smell and had a lingering cough.

I had dinner with them Saturday night and they are both fine now. It was the first time seeing them in person since their return. I also heard all about the trip to Scotland, which was fabulous.

IronLionZion

(45,001 posts)
86. Conservative maskholes are eager to share it with as many as possible
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 09:35 AM
Sep 2023

Mask up and be up to date on seasonal booster, because conservatives won't.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
87. IF anyone even thinks they have been exposed, call in a script for PAXLOVID
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 10:41 AM
Sep 2023

I was vaccinated, boosted and double boosted and last March I still caught COVID and was going down hard. After 18 hours or so I was weak, lethargic and aching everywhere to the point that I did not want to move. My fever and coughing had become very bad and I tested positive. I had my doctor call in a script for PAXLOVID (antiviral) and the drug was a miracle...within 24 hours of starting the drug, my symptoms resolved and I was weak but able to get on my feet and out of bed.

The drug was covered by insurance with no copay, so I received the treatment as I received the vaccines - free of out of pocket charges. Avoiding exposure or transmission is always the best bet, but if you find yourself exposed despite those efforts, do not hesitate to get treatment ASAP. For PAXLOVID to have maximum effectiveness, it is absolutely imperative to act FAST. Good luck to all and stay safe as we are entering the annual COVID/Flu outbreak seasons as a new and permanent part of life...,

shrike3

(3,134 posts)
93. Immuno-compromised friend of mine stayed healthy for three years
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 12:53 PM
Sep 2023

Took every precaution in the world. Turned up positive early this summer, and it almost killed him. A lot of people care about him, and we are all so glad he's better now.

ecstatic

(32,412 posts)
104. yep. I'm certain I was exposed to it
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 04:45 PM
Sep 2023

as I could feel my body responding to something, but I've never actually had symptoms or ever tested positive. It's been affecting a lot of our clients though, especially in the rural areas.

TomSlick

(10,947 posts)
105. An update.
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 05:21 PM
Sep 2023

As recommended by many above, I'm taking Paxlovid.

Getting it was a challenge. There has been a run on Paxlovid and Lageveia (Molnupiravir). The Walmart pharmacy here found Paxlovid at the Walmart in a nearby town. My in-laws (who don't usually drive out of town) drove over to get some.

It's early days on whether the Paxlovid is effective but the warning about diarrhea as a adverse effect has proven true.

I hope that I at least avoid last night's delirium.

Katcat

(208 posts)
106. Oh nooooo
Tue Sep 5, 2023, 06:11 PM
Sep 2023

Hate to hear that and especially hate to hear that you have a headache. I got covid last year while I was laid up with a broken ankle (lucky me) and the absolute worst part was the headache. I was taking hydrocodone at tge time and it did nothing for that headache. Oflky enough when I got the flu a few years ago the headache was the worst part.
Hope you get better soon and hope I remember to mask up!

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