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Hunter Biden indicted on gun charges. (Original Post) onenote Sep 2023 OP
Fascists attempting to be outraged Voltaire2 Sep 2023 #1
When you pry my cold dead hands.... PCIntern Sep 2023 #2
ATF form 4473 question G maxsolomon Sep 2023 #3
I am pretty sure this recently was ruled unconstitutional drray23 Sep 2023 #11
yes, but that wasn't in the same circuit. maxsolomon Sep 2023 #13
And it may be a stretch to apply it to this set of facts FBaggins Sep 2023 #24
I predict no jury in California will find Hunter guilty of anything. MichMan Sep 2023 #27
Delaware Johnny2X2X Sep 2023 #31
Weiss previously said the charges were being dropped and they were going to be refiled in Cal. MichMan Sep 2023 #33
So he's as guilty as every gun owner in America who ever walked into a dispensary tritsofme Sep 2023 #4
TrDump will rush to Hunter's defense,... magicarpet Sep 2023 #5
Why did we need a special counsel for this? gab13by13 Sep 2023 #6
'Cause Weiss wanted the title. nt woodsprite Sep 2023 #7
So is this all the SC came up with? gab13by13 Sep 2023 #9
He is not finished. former9thward Sep 2023 #16
DOJ needs to make the MAGAs happy too. triron Sep 2023 #8
these won't stick. drray23 Sep 2023 #10
I see this is being challenged in the courts. gab13by13 Sep 2023 #12
The government will strongly defend the use of the statute v. Hunter onenote Sep 2023 #32
That appeals court does not cover Delaware. former9thward Sep 2023 #18
yes but it's likely the Biden defense team will challenge it drray23 Sep 2023 #22
And, on every channel is BIG news 😳 Quakerfriend Sep 2023 #14
Gunfuckers: Why don't we enforce the laws we already have? Iggo Sep 2023 #15
I doubt it Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #19
You sure about that? Iggo Sep 2023 #21
yes. I've owned guns hunted, etc as a youth; guns are a ridiculous luxury we can't afford Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #23
I mean...it's not like we're the only ones here. Iggo Sep 2023 #28
not sure your point Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #29
It'll come to you. Iggo Sep 2023 #35
Some Democrats own guns. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2023 #36
Without a positive drug test at the time in question Johonny Sep 2023 #17
Hunter said so in his book. former9thward Sep 2023 #20
Judge Maryellen Noreila asked Hunter if he was still doing drugs & he said yes womanofthehills Sep 2023 #37
How many magats own guns and are alcoholics? nt wiggs Sep 2023 #25
After reviewing the form there need to be more in the miltary LiberalFighter Sep 2023 #26
Good! Now they don't have to impeach him. DJ Porkchop Sep 2023 #30
New Rule? NowISeetheLight Sep 2023 #34
The great Republican gun grab begins. Emile Sep 2023 #38

maxsolomon

(33,516 posts)
3. ATF form 4473 question G
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 01:39 PM
Sep 2023

I'd wager 50% of firearm buyers lie on that question. If you smoke weed, you don't qualify to buy a gun.

Looking forward to the mass prosecutions...

maxsolomon

(33,516 posts)
13. yes, but that wasn't in the same circuit.
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 02:03 PM
Sep 2023

so it doesn't stop this indictment.

it may get tossed the second it's in front of a judge. i presume h. biden's lawyers will be pointing that out immediately. i would.

FBaggins

(26,859 posts)
24. And it may be a stretch to apply it to this set of facts
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 03:02 PM
Sep 2023

That ruling related to prior marijuana use. Not then-current use of heroin. At least one of the three charges appears (to me) to be clear of this defense even if it were in the 5th.

MichMan

(12,031 posts)
33. Weiss previously said the charges were being dropped and they were going to be refiled in Cal.
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 04:48 PM
Sep 2023

I guess it changed back now that he is named as a Special Counsel?

tritsofme

(17,478 posts)
4. So he's as guilty as every gun owner in America who ever walked into a dispensary
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 01:41 PM
Sep 2023

or smoked a doob?

Quelle horreur!

magicarpet

(14,325 posts)
5. TrDump will rush to Hunter's defense,...
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 01:45 PM
Sep 2023

,.... to protect and defend his Second Amendment gun rights. TrDump constantly screams about the Right to Bear Arms at his Nazi Rallies and on social media.

gab13by13

(21,645 posts)
9. So is this all the SC came up with?
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 01:56 PM
Sep 2023

Didn't we know about this years ago? How long will Weiss keep the title, until after a trial or plea?

drray23

(7,641 posts)
10. these won't stick.
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 01:59 PM
Sep 2023

it was recently ruled by an appeals court that the type of offenses he is charged with are not constitutional.

gab13by13

(21,645 posts)
12. I see this is being challenged in the courts.
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 02:01 PM
Sep 2023

The federal gun charge, which makes it unlawful for a drug addict to possess a weapon, is a rarely used statute that is facing legal challenges and has recently been used as a catch-all charge against white supremacists.

onenote

(42,948 posts)
32. The government will strongly defend the use of the statute v. Hunter
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 04:44 PM
Sep 2023

Keep in mind that in the 5th Circuit case, it was the government that was seeking to apply the law and the government is currently considering whether to file for rehearing of that case. They can't walk away from this prosecution based on the fifth circuit decision.

former9thward

(32,259 posts)
18. That appeals court does not cover Delaware.
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 02:41 PM
Sep 2023

So it has no affect. Only as what another court has said when the defense is making their argument.

drray23

(7,641 posts)
22. yes but it's likely the Biden defense team will challenge it
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 02:50 PM
Sep 2023

and cite that other case as a precedent even thought it's a different district. We shall see if this is successful again here or not in front of this jurisdiction.

Quakerfriend

(5,463 posts)
14. And, on every channel is BIG news 😳
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 02:05 PM
Sep 2023

Hunter shown with Joe in every picture….
Gotta paste it on Joe.

Iggo

(47,641 posts)
15. Gunfuckers: Why don't we enforce the laws we already have?
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 02:20 PM
Sep 2023

Feds: Mr Biden, you’re under arrest.
Gunfuckers: Hey there, ho there, now wait just a durned minnit.

FOR THE RECORD: I like it when people who aren’t supposed to have guns get in trouble for having guns.

Recycle_Guru

(2,973 posts)
23. yes. I've owned guns hunted, etc as a youth; guns are a ridiculous luxury we can't afford
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 02:54 PM
Sep 2023

Last edited Thu Sep 14, 2023, 04:18 PM - Edit history (1)

BOTH Australia and New Zealand are now poster children for how you effectively deal with out of control tun violence.

I vomit in the face of every person who thinks their desire for guns trumps my child's safety

former9thward

(32,259 posts)
20. Hunter said so in his book.
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 02:43 PM
Sep 2023

So unless he says he was lying in a book he wrote then its pretty easy to prove. Plus he may have made incriminating statements to the feds already about it.

womanofthehills

(8,837 posts)
37. Judge Maryellen Noreila asked Hunter if he was still doing drugs & he said yes
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 05:35 PM
Sep 2023

She asked him how many times he had been in rehab and I don’t remember exactly what he said but it was around 20. Also, he videotaped himself doing drugs and took photos with his gun. Not good choices when people can hack others so easily now.

I don’t know why his lawyers didn’t insist Hunter be in a rehab program before he went to court. The judge was pissed beforehand anyway because someone from Hunters lawyers firm tried to influence a clerk.

Anyway, many people I know who smoke pot own guns but being addicted to hard drugs is another level. I know, I have a grandson doing fentanyl and we worry every day if he’s still alive each morning.

LiberalFighter

(51,667 posts)
26. After reviewing the form there need to be more in the miltary
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 03:14 PM
Sep 2023

that should be dishonorably discharged. They don't get to possess firearms.

NowISeetheLight

(3,943 posts)
34. New Rule?
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 04:54 PM
Sep 2023

Maybe the RepubQcans would support mandatory drug testing for all gun buyers... after all it would stop hardened crime family people from buying guns?

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