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Zorro

(15,772 posts)
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 09:58 PM Sep 2023

Neo-Nazis Gloat as Florida Becomes a Magnet for Hate

Neo-Nazis have been ecstatic in the wake of their headline-grabbing action outside Orlando earlier this month. White nationalists with handles like “Dietrich,” “Red Pill,” and “Scotty Big Balls” greeted each other with shouts of “Hail victory!” on a Sept. 10 Telegram livestream. Echoing the sentiments of many participants, “Combat Carl” told listeners it was “probably the best weekend of my life.”

The march represented a merger of two neo-Nazi hate groups with different styles — the hard-edged BloodTribe, aka Blutstamm, whose Maine-based leader Christopher Pohlhaus has a runic face tattoo goes and goes by the name “Hammer”; and the Goyim Defense League, a meme-savvy group whose antisemitism is steeped in layers of irony, led by Jon Minadeo II, who calls himself “Handsome Truth.” This was the largest, but only the latest, of a series of high-profile neo-Nazi actions in Florida.

More than 50 members of both groups joined together on Sept. 2 — wearing red shirts and dark shorts, with most covering their faces with black masks. Some toted massive swastika flags, and their hate march culminated with a demonstration on a freeway overpass in Altamonte Springs, where the neo-Nazis performed stiff-armed Hitler salutes and shouted antisemitic threats like, “Jews get the rope!”

Many of these haters were not Florida natives. As detailed on the livestream, they’d traveled from as far Canada and California, spending thousands of dollars on flights and hotels to participate in this show of intimidation in the Sunshine State. And this joint mobilization was augmented, on the same day, by a third neo-Nazi group that rallied just a few miles away, outside DisneyWorld. Members of the Order of the Black Sun staked out an entrance to “the most magical place on Earth,” holding placards reading: “Have you thanked Hitler today?”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/neo-nazis-gloat-florida-becomes-140000174.html

Welcome to the Sunshine Hate.

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Neo-Nazis Gloat as Florida Becomes a Magnet for Hate (Original Post) Zorro Sep 2023 OP
a mere handful, and what are floridians gonna do about this nt msongs Sep 2023 #1
Sounds like Pohlhaus is trying to change the topic from "Boneface" underpants Sep 2023 #2
Desantis reshaped Florida to their liking Demovictory9 Sep 2023 #3
Something drew nasty messaging to your home. Hortensis Sep 2023 #4
Thank you! Ligyron Sep 2023 #6
I have a home in Florida Zorro Sep 2023 #7
No. If "sunshine hate" is being drawn to you in two states, Hortensis Sep 2023 #9
How about translating that into standard English Zorro Sep 2023 #10
Trump's Charlottesville rally Nazis yelling about the ovens ready for the Jews again. keithbvadu2 Sep 2023 #5
Fox News did this to Florida. Initech Sep 2023 #8
New motto: The Hate State ananda Sep 2023 #11
Seeing it in quotes... electric_blue68 Sep 2023 #12
Florida hildegaard28 Sep 2023 #13
The Canadians needs to be on a list and barred entry. NT Happy Hoosier Sep 2023 #14

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. Something drew nasty messaging to your home.
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 10:21 PM
Sep 2023

Is your own "sunshine hate" magnet in Florida? Or somewhere else? If so, do you actually imagine you don't have people like that there?

Organized hate groups are in every state. FL is not even among the top 10 states in numbers of hate groups per capita.

Whatever. Please do your part to stomp divisive attitudes and not spread them via DU, and not just the ugliness that can accurately be ascribed to "Nazis." We have a bunch of friends in FL who really don't deserve it.

48% of Florida's voters voted for Biden. Go, Florida Democratic voters!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. No. If "sunshine hate" is being drawn to you in two states,
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 10:45 PM
Sep 2023

you have two places to gather and trash it. Recommend you tie it up tight so it doesn't escape. There are honest ways to deplore the spread of neonazi and other hate group ideologies across the nation and planet without smearing Florida.

keithbvadu2

(37,185 posts)
5. Trump's Charlottesville rally Nazis yelling about the ovens ready for the Jews again.
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 10:26 PM
Sep 2023
https://starherald.com/alleged-driver-of-car-that-plowed-into-charlottesville-crowd-was-a-nazi-sympathizer-former-teacher/article_23a7866c-6dfe-583c-abfa-290190baec47.html

Michael Von Kotch, a Pennsylvania resident who called himself a Nazi, said the rally made him "proud to be white."

He said that he's long held white supremacist views and that Trump's election has "emboldened" him and the members of his own Nazi group.
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Later.... “We killed six million Jews the last time,” he answered. “Eleven million is nothing.”

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=%E2%80%9CWe+killed+six+million+Jews+the+last+time%2C%E2%80%9D+he+answered.+%E2%80%9CEleven+million+is+nothing.%E2%80%9D

Initech

(100,200 posts)
8. Fox News did this to Florida.
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 10:44 PM
Sep 2023

And they're using it as a blueprint for the rest of the country. Fuck Rupert Murdoch.

electric_blue68

(15,107 posts)
12. Seeing it in quotes...
Thu Sep 14, 2023, 11:06 PM
Sep 2023
from post #5 ty
"Michael Von Kotch, a Pennsylvania resident who called himself a Nazi, said the rally made him "proud to be white."

He said that he's long held white supremacist views and that Trump's election has "emboldened" him and the members of his own Nazi group". "


While pretty much all of us Dems know this...
To see an actual quote from a neo nazi type (among many disgusting people) saying the drumphf "emboldened" him to let his hideous views air.
Yeah, giving permission for all this verbal sewage, as well as actual physical harm, and even murder. =shudder=
Horrific.

hildegaard28

(391 posts)
13. Florida
Fri Sep 15, 2023, 09:48 AM
Sep 2023

Where drag queens are arrested for expressing their first amendment rights, while Nazis march in the streets and groom children freely.

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