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Sat Sep 30, 2023, 10:25 PM Sep 2023

The Daily Kos on the current state of the war in Ukraine

"Regardless of whether you see the Ukrainian counteroffensive as promising or disheartening, one thing is abundantly clear: Ukraine and Russia are locked in a battle of attrition, drawing comparisons to World War I.

If we must compare World War I to the Russo-Ukrainian War, it is helpful to remember two things:

Ukraine Update: Data shows Ukraine is laying down the heaviest firestorm of artillery in the war

World War I ended in a decisive Allied victory, not in an inconclusive stalemate; and
World War I ended in four years and 106 days, compared to World War II, which lasted six years and one day.
I’ve written this before, but battles of attrition do not imply endless stalemates, or endless deadlocks. They most certainly do not imply wars without end. And one of the most decisive battles of attrition ever fought was the Allies’ gradual and grinding efforts to wear down German defenses around Normandy in late summer 1944, during World War II, before steamrolling the Germans all the way through France."


Ukraine is making a great deal of progress, just not the kind you can see on a map. Yet.

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The Daily Kos on the current state of the war in Ukraine (Original Post) Tomconroy Sep 2023 OP
K & R for visibility Celerity Sep 2023 #1
i received a comment from an acquaintance of Russian regarding conscription Tetrachloride Sep 2023 #2
If not careful, we will be into WWll. keithbvadu2 Sep 2023 #3
Yet another call to leave Russia. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2023 #4
Lots of detail in the article, including FIRMs map. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2023 #5
Thanks to Celerity! Tomconroy Sep 2023 #7
I'm hoping Ukraine beats the historical stats and soon 🇺🇦 Deuxcents Sep 2023 #6


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2. i received a comment from an acquaintance of Russian regarding conscription
Sat Sep 30, 2023, 10:33 PM
Sep 2023


he said he wasn’t worried too much

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