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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy are so many MAGATs pro Israel but anti Semitic?
and why isn't this being pointed out all of the time?
AntivaxHunters
(3,234 posts)Whatthe_Firetruck
(564 posts)... They want to hurry on the Rapture where all the "good" Christians ascend to heaven after Jesus comes down to them in the air. Then after all the sinners who were left behind die off, they'll come back with Jesus to rule the Earth for 1000 years. The painfully bad fiction book series of the same name, "Left Behind", will clue you in to the mindset if you can stomach the awful prose.
To clarify, they are pro Israel because certain things need to happen to Israel according to Revelations in order to trigger the Rapture, and part of that is the Jews convert to Christianity, if I recall.
They are antisemitic because they are authoritarian fascists. Jews only have value to them if they convert, or they set off the Rapture. Looked at from that pov it makes perfect sense.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Behind
Sneederbunk
(14,416 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,373 posts)the predominant way that Christians behave. A few well-behaved Christians has not made Christianity well-behaved.
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)Not acting like christians willfully ignores how christians have behaved for centuries now.
It's like they all turned off their brains during history classes, so that the cognitive dissonance wouldn't rip them in half.
OAITW r.2.0
(25,213 posts)Must have been taught the difference in Christian indoctrinal classes.
I guess they get to love/hate at the same time.
Marius25
(3,213 posts)They see Israel as a far-right, tough country that goes after Muslims, which obviously MAGA hates too.
And most MAGA are Christian extremists, and Christian extremists believe Israel needs to build the Third Jewish Temple to usher in the return of Jesus and start Armageddon.
marybourg
(12,693 posts)military, especially its air force, but denigrated American and European Jews.
2naSalit
(87,765 posts)They didn't go live in Israel.
70sEraVet
(3,657 posts)for the Returned Jesus -- but they don't want any Jews around to spoil the celebration!
highplainsdem
(49,413 posts)wnylib
(22,251 posts)Rhiannon12866
(209,437 posts)Johonny
(21,198 posts)To begin. They are apocalyptic believers. The Jews will then get what is coming to them when Jesus comes back. So they support Israel, but hate basically all minorities as far as I can tell.
liberal N proud
(60,421 posts)Cha
(299,269 posts)people don't vote for them.. they're too Smart like our Loyal base POC and specifically WOC.
And not supporting Israel would be politically stupid.
Right now they're blaming Pres Biden for Funding these attacks.. like the LYING craven fucking assholes they are.
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)Saying that American Jews will or won't do X is like that time one of my idiot traitor thug co-workers told another co-worker that he couldn't be Jewish because he had never known a liberal Jew before. The Jew's response?
"Get out more. We're not the Borg who all think and act the same."
Same applies with your remark. Jews don't have a hive mind they're all plugged into. Some are liberal, some aren't.
Same as any other religious or ethnic group.
Really.
Cha
(299,269 posts)for Dems.
I don't need or want a lecture from you.
ZZenith
(4,156 posts)They loves them some Jesus but hates them Jews.
And dont bother pointing out that their Lord and Savior is a Jew, it simply will not compute.
MMBeilis
(207 posts).....the "Holy Land" and just shake their heads at how stupid these folks really are.
FakeNoose
(33,432 posts)... cannot happen until Israel defeats its enemies. That's why they're rooting for Israel to start World War III.
Their crazy convictions include the return of Jesus to Earth, who will save all the "true believers" and banish everyone else to Hell. Of course the evangelicals are quite certain that they'll be among the "saved" because ... politics. Somewhere in there they believe that the Jews of Israel will be converted to Christianity, or some such nonsense.
roamer65
(36,752 posts)Think. Again.
(10,099 posts)...and Thank You for pointing it out.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,357 posts)Evangelicals support Israel because Jesus must return to Israel to fulfill their version of Biblical destiny; ie. the second coming of Jesus is part of rapture theology.
I have a distant cousin, Grace Halsell, who wrote about this - "Forcing God's Hand: Why Millions Pray for a Quick Rapture... And Destruction of Planet Earth". The book is out of print, but used copies are available. She was also a speechwriter for LBJ.
GPV
(72,422 posts)elias7
(4,080 posts)Amaryllis
(9,531 posts)I_UndergroundPanther
(12,611 posts)They are pro israel because the jews need an israel to return to,israel with its historical borders and 2/3 rds of the jews need to die for jesus to come back .
The iron shield around israel needs to defeat an onslaught of missles too. Jesus wont come back if a bunch of jews don't die according to this bible craziness and there is an insane prophecy regarding Israel regarding all the signs that jesus is coming.
I used to be evilgelical. This is the basis what they think is a sign jesus is coming back.They hate jews but need them and isreal to exist because prophecy.
And there are too many evangelical prophecy crazy people in our government that should not be allowed anywhere near our foreign policy departments.
Sky Jewels
(7,318 posts)And Israel is the way that he comes back.
It's pathetic that modern people still buy that mythological bullshit.
ecstatic
(32,928 posts)Just one of many inconsistencies / hypocrisies.
Love embryos and barely formed fetuses, hate actual born babies and children.
"Love" Jesus, hate his teachings.
"Love" freedom except when it involves a woman controlling her own uterus/vagina/marriage/etc.
Love guns, just not at their events.
The list goes on and on.
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)Like the ones about hating on foreigners because he doesn't think it's right to feed 'dogs' when he's come to teach only those of Israel.
Or promoting divisiveness, even amongst families.
Or scorning your family when they annoy you, even telling his own mother she's not his family, but his party buddies are.
Or hanging out with your homies, partying and boating and never having a real job, but finding time to harass hard-working people minding their own business.
Or teaching people to enjoy being abused by turning the other cheek to be hit again.
Or thinking it's okay to beat up people over non-violent offenses.
Or torturing people they disagree with. Forever.
Those teachings, they're definitely okay with.
AmBlue
(3,166 posts)MyNameIsJonas
(744 posts)Plus, the whole Evangelical belief that a Holy War in Israel will prelude the end of times.