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albacore

(2,421 posts)
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 12:31 AM Nov 2023

There's lots of DUers arguing about polls that show Biden even with trump or actually behind him...

...and painting some pretty gloomy pictures about what happens if trump wins.
I don't think that will happen, after all, there's a lot of water to flow under the bridge in the next year, and this year is going to be hell for trump.

Instead, I think we'd better start thinking about what happens after trump loses. His cult will never accept that he lost.. no matter the margin. They will not take that loss like normal people.

What happens then? We can all lose this country whether trump wins or loses.

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There's lots of DUers arguing about polls that show Biden even with trump or actually behind him... (Original Post) albacore Nov 2023 OP
I'm not that worried either. First of all, Dems are out performing in special elections. Second, pundits are pointing Quixote1818 Nov 2023 #1
It's a whole year until the election. Jeebo Nov 2023 #2
The older I get, the faster time goes. A year is nothing. MerryBlooms Nov 2023 #4
I feel like this is media created Nictuku Nov 2023 #3
Michael Moore has some thoughts mahina Nov 2023 #5
count me out as far as 'Dr Mike' goes stopdiggin Nov 2023 #7
Nope. After losing a second time stopdiggin Nov 2023 #6
In six months or so, we will be discussing Biden-v-Haley or Biden-v-DeSantis. progressoid Nov 2023 #8

Quixote1818

(29,283 posts)
1. I'm not that worried either. First of all, Dems are out performing in special elections. Second, pundits are pointing
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 12:44 AM
Nov 2023

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out that some of the results just don't make sense. Like 20% of the black vote for Trump. Third, Trump will likely be conviced of several crimes and that will be very damaging. Forth, the negative ads against Trump using Republicans who worked for him plus showing Jan 6th stuff over and over, is going to be brutal! A lot of people not paying much attention now will be forced to see the insanity over and over. Finally, Trump is starting to lose his cognition even worse so the "He's too old" stuff will end up just as damaging to Trump.

Jeebo

(2,068 posts)
2. It's a whole year until the election.
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 01:20 AM
Nov 2023

A lot can happen in that much time. And I just can't believe that many people can vote for that orange con man, after all that has happened. I just can't believe that many American voters can be that STUPID.

-- Ron

MerryBlooms

(11,801 posts)
4. The older I get, the faster time goes. A year is nothing.
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 01:45 AM
Nov 2023

A lot can happen, and it will be quick. People are foolish to think they have a lot of time to change minds or circumstances.

Nictuku

(3,669 posts)
3. I feel like this is media created
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 01:44 AM
Nov 2023

... they love the horse-race. More Clicks and attention.

Obama was losing to Gingrich and Guinali in 2011.

If it makes more democrats get out and vote, then good, we need that.

Otherwise I think that the media is failing us.

These are Serious Times.

mahina

(17,978 posts)
5. Michael Moore has some thoughts
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 01:48 AM
Nov 2023
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rumble-with-michael-moore/id1490354763?i=1000627417905

“You’re scared. You’re anxious. You’re coming unglued. We understand. The telly keeps shouting at you: “Biden’s approval rating has now dropped to 39%!” “Trump is ahead of Biden 47-46%!” “67% of Democrats believe Biden shouldn’t run because he is too old!” “52% of Americans believe Trump accomplished more than Biden has!!”
This is way too much to handle! Everyone needs to breathe deep and participate in some self help therapy to get through all this BS. So light a candle, turn on the lavender and eucalyptus aroma machine to mist up your room and let Dr. Mike remind you why the monster is not going to return.”

For more of Michael's work, subscribe to his podcast at MichaelMoore.com.

He was right in 2016

stopdiggin

(11,673 posts)
6. Nope. After losing a second time
Mon Nov 6, 2023, 02:01 AM
Nov 2023

(granting he is on the ticket) - his MAGA followers will be to 'shut the F up, and sit down!' And that will come from all sides, including friends, family members and co-workers. Not to mention that putting some of these A-holes in prison - will have a sobering effect on a good portion of the humpers that want to play 'patriot'.

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