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So yeah, Israel is about to destroy the family home (Original Post) ExciteBike66 Nov 2023 OP
The woman he murdered is from Atlanta Mosby Nov 2023 #1
Tactics like this remind me of a regime that I hesitate to name in view of what they did to the Jews. Martin68 Nov 2023 #2
Odd Zeitghost Nov 2023 #13
Albert Einstein warned about Likud and predecessors, called Likud akin to facists and Nazis. PufPuf23 Nov 2023 #21
Thanks for this redqueen Nov 2023 #23
Because the Nazis had total power over the Jews. The police did not tear down his home. They tore down his family's Martin68 Nov 2023 #24
Isn't life strange malaise Nov 2023 #25
Because Israel will use any excuse louis-t Nov 2023 #3
The IDF is an unofficial recruiter for Hamas. marble falls Nov 2023 #5
Kind of like Zeitghost Nov 2023 #14
Bad comparrison, more like: the same way Pearl Harbor incited average American citizens ... marble falls Nov 2023 #19
Meanwhile Hamas simply wants all Jews dead Calculating Nov 2023 #10
I mean Zeitghost Nov 2023 #15
Gee that sounds familiar Autumn Nov 2023 #16
Do you think Israel's housing policy is a good one? ExciteBike66 Nov 2023 #27
What's your reason? nt LexVegas Nov 2023 #4
I deplore this tactic ExciteBike66 Nov 2023 #7
It's been going on for some time. atreides1 Nov 2023 #6
Worse, it's a recruiting poster for hamas ExciteBike66 Nov 2023 #8
It sure hasn't worked... 2naSalit Nov 2023 #22
it takes a village JoseBalow Nov 2023 #9
There's no mystery why many Palestinians don't like Israel BannonsLiver Nov 2023 #11
Do you think this policy is a good idea? ExciteBike66 Nov 2023 #29
counterproductive policy. maxsolomon Nov 2023 #12
It's because most of these homes are like townhomes, they share walls. haele Nov 2023 #17
Why would people in the West Bank be angry? Bettie Nov 2023 #18
once again, release the hostages Tickle Nov 2023 #20
Did the family of that murderer have the power to release the hostage Hamas kindnapped? Martin68 Nov 2023 #26
This has be been happening for decades ExciteBike66 Nov 2023 #28
One side punishes the family for what the kid did. Igel Nov 2023 #30

Zeitghost

(3,670 posts)
13. Odd
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 01:52 PM
Nov 2023

One side tortures, rapes and murders civilians because they are Jews.

The other tears down a home of a person that murdered a young police woman.

And it's the later that reminds you of Nazis? Really?

PufPuf23

(8,589 posts)
21. Albert Einstein warned about Likud and predecessors, called Likud akin to facists and Nazis.
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 03:02 PM
Nov 2023

TO THE EDITORS OF NEW YORK TIMES:
Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine.
The current visit of Menachem Begin, leader of this party, to the United States is obviously calculated to give the impression of American support for his party in the coming Israeli elections, and to cement political ties with conservative Zionist elements in the United States. Several Americans of national repute have lent their names to welcome his visit. It is inconceivable that those who oppose fascism throughout the world, if correctly informed as to Mr. Begin's political record and perspectives, could add their names and support to the movement he represents.

rest of letter and photocopy of newspaper at:

https://archive.org/details/AlbertEinsteinLetterToTheNewYorkTimes.December41948/page/n1/mode/2up

Martin68

(22,528 posts)
24. Because the Nazis had total power over the Jews. The police did not tear down his home. They tore down his family's
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 04:37 PM
Nov 2023

home. In this scenario, the Israelis have all the power. They can just go in and destroy the homes of suspected collaborators (the family of the murderer). That is how the Nazis punished families in Italy to punish the entire community for the actions of a few. How do you see any semblance of the Nazi regime in the Hamas terrorists? The more closely resemble Boko Haram, or any other barbaric terrorist group. The Nazis were coldly calculating in their actions. Decide for yourself who most closely resemble the Nazis.

louis-t

(23,101 posts)
3. Because Israel will use any excuse
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 01:19 PM
Nov 2023

to torture, humiliate, badger or otherwise punish Palestinians. Unfortunately, Israel's tactics in Gaza will fuel much more retaliation and cause many youth to join Hamas.

Zeitghost

(3,670 posts)
14. Kind of like
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 01:55 PM
Nov 2023

Women being the inspiration behind sexual assaults.


As long as there are Jews, there will be Nazi/Hamas/Hezbollah types intent on killing them. Most reasonable people understand that isn't the fault of the Jews.

marble falls

(55,418 posts)
19. Bad comparrison, more like: the same way Pearl Harbor incited average American citizens ...
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 02:30 PM
Nov 2023

... the way the Stamp Act provoked Revolutionary patriots to dump tea and tar and feather British tax agents and lynch some.

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ExciteBike66

(2,264 posts)
7. I deplore this tactic
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 01:25 PM
Nov 2023

It is galling to me that there are human beings who think this tactic is a good idea.

atreides1

(16,015 posts)
6. It's been going on for some time.
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 01:25 PM
Nov 2023

The Israeli authorities claim that it's a deterrent against attacks...considering what happened on October 7th...it's not very good deterrent!

2naSalit

(85,043 posts)
22. It sure hasn't worked...
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 03:44 PM
Nov 2023

Over the decades during which I have heard about these tactics employed all over that country, and for far lesser offenses.

Just saying.

BannonsLiver

(16,043 posts)
11. There's no mystery why many Palestinians don't like Israel
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 01:45 PM
Nov 2023

It's because Israel is full of Jews.

Hope that clears it up for you.

maxsolomon

(32,764 posts)
12. counterproductive policy.
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 01:51 PM
Nov 2023

but it's not the main reason palestinians hate jews.

I don't understand the "mapping" portion of the home demolition punishment.

haele

(12,553 posts)
17. It's because most of these homes are like townhomes, they share walls.
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 02:13 PM
Nov 2023

Don't want to bulldoze the wrong house.
This deterrent tactic doesn't work.

Not on the West Bank, not in some US housing projects, where if any person living in public housing is (or was) arrested for any number of gang crimes, the entire household, be they disabled, great-grandparents or newborns, is evicted.

All it does is create more anger and chaos. Which in turn creates more crime and terrorists.

Haele

Bettie

(15,893 posts)
18. Why would people in the West Bank be angry?
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 02:16 PM
Nov 2023

Let's see...

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/30/world/middleeast/west-bank-settlers-palestinians-violence.html

https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/11/1143087

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israel-gaza-west-bank-settler-violence-palestinians-rcna123311

The right wing settlers have used the Gaza situation to take more land and intimidate and kill more people there.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/6/who-are-israeli-settlers-and-why-do-they-live-on-palestinian-lands


Was what this kid did right? No. It wasn't. He should see consequences through the court system....but his whole family shouldn't be left homeless and destitute.

However, by tearing down his family's home, they are also giving the settlers what they want, more pain for the people living in the West Bank and more land for themselves. Their aim is to remove all Palestinians from that land, either by driving them out with death threats or killing them. Let's not pretend that they are friendly people who come and buy the land from the people living there.

Martin68

(22,528 posts)
26. Did the family of that murderer have the power to release the hostage Hamas kindnapped?
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 04:42 PM
Nov 2023

Punish the murderer, not the murderer's family. Way too Old Testament for me.

Igel

(35,100 posts)
30. One side punishes the family for what the kid did.
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 05:01 PM
Nov 2023

(And no DUer has ever said that when you see a 16-year-old killer or racist it's maybe because he learned it somewhere).

The other side pays their martyrs for killing Jews or their sympathizers.

Hard to know who to condemn more.

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