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Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 11:28 AM Nov 2023

Donald Trump using a ...."Direct Quote from Adolph Hitler" is the end of Trump..

Last edited Wed Nov 15, 2023, 12:02 PM - Edit history (1)

(Trump doesn't have a clue....says Stu.)............

When it gets around that Donald Trump Used one of Adolph Hitler's ideas, (his direct words)....Trump will
destroy himself....

.Of course, that will take a lot of time to get around, but using a HITLER QUOTE...IS A MISTAKE
IN MY OPINION... TOTAL MISTAKE::


(and in my opinion, Trump will be asked why he used a Hitler quote....and he cannot answer that one!)

YES......AT LINK BELOW:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/13222848

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Donald Trump using a ...."Direct Quote from Adolph Hitler" is the end of Trump.. (Original Post) Stuart G Nov 2023 OP
the end of Trump? This is not the first time he has used Hitler's words. Autumn Nov 2023 #1
He is playing to his audience and letting us know exactly who he and his audience are. Chainfire Nov 2023 #3
Exactly. Autumn Nov 2023 #4
Agreed...only thing is, his audience is smaller than us Dems... brush Nov 2023 #15
I certainly hope that you have that spot-on right. I am not as confident. Chainfire Nov 2023 #18
trump's win was two cycles ago. He's now a loser... brush Nov 2023 #25
It isn't about that. edisdead Nov 2023 #33
This isnt going to tear down tiny, its going to getagrip_already Nov 2023 #38
Stuart I wish. Duncanpup Nov 2023 #2
This one will get through to some "supporters." SOME, AND '"ONLY SOME"........... Stuart G Nov 2023 #5
Many of us did know he would do that ExWhoDoesntCare Nov 2023 #49
TFG has been saying the Nazi stuff out loud for a long time. Ocelot II Nov 2023 #6
He and his supporters are still outnumbered. See post 15. brush Nov 2023 #22
You need to tie this around the neck of moderate Republicans who voted for his policies. Probatim Nov 2023 #7
Moderate Republicans will not like this, but Trump needs the ..."So called MODERATESto support him.. Stuart G Nov 2023 #8
"I don't like the man, but I like his policies." CrispyQ Nov 2023 #9
Same here. All the concern about morals and ethics out the window. yardwork Nov 2023 #13
Some people cannot see, or know what a real dictator is and what a dictator supports.. Stuart G Nov 2023 #17
It's worse than that ExWhoDoesntCare Nov 2023 #53
This. They need to be asked why they support fascist ideology. onecaliberal Nov 2023 #11
It won't have any impact on die-hard dumbasses, but there may (he says hopefully) Probatim Nov 2023 #16
Agree. The other thing that no one talks about is how many of their voters they killed with COVID. onecaliberal Nov 2023 #39
What do you call Germans who opposed antisemitism, but liked Nazis for their economic policies? Lucky Luciano Nov 2023 #31
That's the fine point to finish my comments. Probatim Nov 2023 #44
DjT's statement that there are 'good people' on both sides: Jrose Nov 2023 #10
Donald Trump cannot win any election. Most people know that he is a crook and caused a riot. Stuart G Nov 2023 #14
Trump talked about illegal immigrants gab13by13 Nov 2023 #12
You're assuming his followers give a shit CanonRay Nov 2023 #19
Some ..."Give a shit" and most know who Adolph Hitler was and stood for. Stuart G Nov 2023 #20
They know and they quote Hitler as well exboyfil Nov 2023 #28
His scumbag followers eat that stuff up! bif Nov 2023 #21
How many are ..."True Followers?"....What percent of the population are ...."Scumbag Followers" Stuart G Nov 2023 #24
I honestly think about 90% of his followers bif Nov 2023 #42
LOL sarisataka Nov 2023 #23
When it is shown that Trump uses Hitler's words, ideas, style, some of the base would...Turn From Him Stuart G Nov 2023 #29
Using "Hitler style" is not a direct quote sarisataka Nov 2023 #34
..."is the end of Trump..., don't bet on it, as being the end. republianmushroom Nov 2023 #26
His minions including elected representatives have been doing it for years exboyfil Nov 2023 #27
Highly doubt it. His MAGA approval ratings will likely go up awesomerwb1 Nov 2023 #30
The true impact of Trump using . "Facism" will be that his support will go down to maybe 20 percent Stuart G Nov 2023 #35
This is what the Trumpers want. Patterson Nov 2023 #32
Fascism is Hitler. When that connection is made the Trumpers will stop supporting Trump...Now the truth is Stuart G Nov 2023 #36
Until he dies, there is no "end of Тяцмр". BlueTsunami2018 Nov 2023 #37
I would argue Trump has no chance at winning the Presidency. Why? Trump caused a riot that is why. Stuart G Nov 2023 #40
The thing is, most people don't care about any of that. BlueTsunami2018 Nov 2023 #55
What??? inthewind21 Nov 2023 #41
No inthewind21 Nov 2023 #43
Let's put the show into context. Joe Biden is running for President again. Stuart G Nov 2023 #45
Trump, with his Nazi following, is still #1 republican candidate. keithbvadu2 Nov 2023 #46
Make no mistake. tRump is following Enoki33 Nov 2023 #47
Unfortunately, NO Ferrets are Cool Nov 2023 #48
I think he all but ruined his chances with independent voters a long time ago. ificandream Nov 2023 #50
Trump keeps a copy of Hitler's speeches next to his bed Model35mech Nov 2023 #51
His cultists will think it was an awesome thing to do sakabatou Nov 2023 #52
Where's the direct quote? redqueen Nov 2023 #54
How many "trump will destroy himself" scenarios must we endure? (nt) Paladin Nov 2023 #56

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
1. the end of Trump? This is not the first time he has used Hitler's words.
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 11:32 AM
Nov 2023

His supporters love that shit.

Chainfire

(17,620 posts)
3. He is playing to his audience and letting us know exactly who he and his audience are.
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 11:33 AM
Nov 2023

I doubt that his comments will cost him 1/2 of one percent of his supporters.

brush

(53,841 posts)
15. Agreed...only thing is, his audience is smaller than us Dems...
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 12:07 PM
Nov 2023

women still seething at abortion rights being snatched away (many republican women too), as recent election results attest to; and also left-leaning Independents; Blacks and Browns,Asian and indigenoust Americans too; the LGBTQ+ community, never-trumper repugs;and some repubicans too that just don't want to vote for criminal defendant, Hitler quoting trump who will likely be a convicted felon come election day.

We beat him before and the odds are we will again.`

Chainfire

(17,620 posts)
18. I certainly hope that you have that spot-on right. I am not as confident.
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 12:11 PM
Nov 2023

I still remember and feel the pain and the shock of the first Trump win, so I am keeping my emotional options on guard. I am basically not a fearful person, but the coming year scares me to death.

brush

(53,841 posts)
25. trump's win was two cycles ago. He's now a loser...
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 12:32 PM
Nov 2023

a four-times indicted, charged with 91 felonies loser.

Remember the internet meme Godwin's Law...the first one to resort to bringing up Hitler/nazis looses the argument?

I say the same thing goes for political candidates. It means they're desperate.

I just don't believe that there are more Americans who favor a Hitler-spouting, fascist wannabe than___ Americans who want to keep our democracy.

We beat that fat fu_k before all his legal problems and will again.

getagrip_already

(14,834 posts)
38. This isnt going to tear down tiny, its going to
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 01:09 PM
Nov 2023

Elevate Hitler. At least in the minds of the cultists.

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
5. This one will get through to some "supporters." SOME, AND '"ONLY SOME"...........
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 11:38 AM
Nov 2023
AND IT WILL GET AROUND TO EVERYONE, BUT YOU KNOW, SOME DO NOT LISTEN TO IDEAS THEY DO NOT LIKE.........

.........................EVEN IF THE IDEA IS TRUE............


(and I did not know that Trump used Hitler's words before....did you?)
 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
49. Many of us did know he would do that
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 03:15 PM
Nov 2023

Because he's been aping or praising Hitler for many years now.

Calling the press enemies of the people is straight up out of the Hitler playbook. Discrediting experts and his other intellectual betters. Trashing entire swaths of the population, especially the brown ones.

But we can get more detailed, if you want. Like when he replicated the infamous Nazi 'blood and soil' rhetoric at CPAC:

“The streets of our Democrat-run cities are drenched in the blood of innocent victims,” Mr Trump went on to claim. “Bullets are killing little beautiful little children who never had a chance. Carjackers lay in wait like predators.”


And this redux of the 'stab in the back' whinging that Hitler resorted to when he didn't have minorities to hate on:

He claimed that President Joe Biden “surrendered our strength and our everything” when withdrawing US troops from Afghanistan, adding that “they surrendered our dignity”.

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-cpac-speech-b2140629.html

And then there's his love of what his ignorance thinks about Hitler's 'command' of the military:

Trump once complained that his generals weren't like Hitler's

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-complained-generals-werent-hitlers-book-says-rcna42114

On a visit to Europe to mark the 100th anniversary of the end of the first world war, Donald Trump insisted to his then chief of staff, John Kelly: “Well, Hitler did a lot of good things.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jul/06/donald-trump-hitler-michael-bender-book

And of course but one of his many displays of admiration for white supremacists:

Trump retweets video of supporter shouting 'white power'

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53212685

So why be surprised when a blatant Nazi escalates the Nazi rhetoric?

Ocelot II

(115,833 posts)
6. TFG has been saying the Nazi stuff out loud for a long time.
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 11:40 AM
Nov 2023

Maybe the media are starting to notice a bit more, but this really isn't new. Problem is, his base likes it. Hitler couldn't have been Hitler without a lot of help, and there are a fair number of Americans - just like there were a fair number of Germans - who want a leader who's a bully and an autocrat. During the '30s the Nazis had a lot of support among Americans; read Rachel Maddow's new book Prequel and it will curl your hair. Too many people liked, and still like, the Nazis' notion of government. Don't assume that TFG's Hitler-ish remarks will bring him down as long as they are effective applause lines at his rallies.

brush

(53,841 posts)
22. He and his supporters are still outnumbered. See post 15.
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 12:17 PM
Nov 2023

We beat him before and will do it again. He can keep spewing Hitlerisms all he wants as that's just preaching to his extreme maga crowd. as that kind of evil negativity is not gaining any votes

Probatim

(2,542 posts)
7. You need to tie this around the neck of moderate Republicans who voted for his policies.
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 11:43 AM
Nov 2023

They may say "I don't like the man, but I like his policies"; however, if you vote for someone who caters to Nazis and white supremacists, you are supporting their causes as well.

You might not like filthy liberals and what they stand for - but we're a whole hell of a lot better for America and Americans than the group that wants to destroy the vermin.

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
8. Moderate Republicans will not like this, but Trump needs the ..."So called MODERATESto support him..
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 11:52 AM
Nov 2023

...AND HE ALSO NEEDS A LOT OF ....."MONEY".........TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT....AND THIS MAY PREVENT HIM FROM
GETTING A ...."LOT OF MONEY "

CrispyQ

(36,509 posts)
9. "I don't like the man, but I like his policies."
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 11:56 AM
Nov 2023

Yeah, I've heard that from a few people I used to admire & respect. Now I just SMDH & wonder what the fuck happened that they can't see what he really is or they can't admit they were conned. Either way, I thought they were better than that.

yardwork

(61,703 posts)
13. Same here. All the concern about morals and ethics out the window.
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 12:06 PM
Nov 2023

It turns out that they never really cared about any of that. Here's what they care about: taxes.

They want lower taxes. They want no government "interference" with how they run their businesses. And a lot of them are very racist.

That's why they'll vote for Trump.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
53. It's worse than that
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 03:27 PM
Nov 2023

They would be fine with a dictator, no matter what. It's not ignorance that has them supporting authoritarian rule. It's what they really want.

If you're a straight, right wing WASP male with enough wealth, you'll probably be fine. Plenty of people living under a dictatorship go on living normal lives. In fact, the more you conform to the dictator's ideal, the less the dictatorship will affect your life.

The sad reality for why so many dictatorships persist is that a dictator can stay in power as long as *enough* people are fat, dumb and happy under his rule.

Probatim

(2,542 posts)
16. It won't have any impact on die-hard dumbasses, but there may (he says hopefully)
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 12:08 PM
Nov 2023

be a few semi-sentient beings who would listen.

Peeling off a few around the margin is how we win elections.

onecaliberal

(32,888 posts)
39. Agree. The other thing that no one talks about is how many of their voters they killed with COVID.
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 01:11 PM
Nov 2023

Since the vaccine came out the divide is striking. People are still dying, overwhelmingly them. They also don't account for large numbers of young people voting (I know we are told they don't vote) They DO vote in large numbers. They know we set the world ablaze and handed it to them.

Lucky Luciano

(11,258 posts)
31. What do you call Germans who opposed antisemitism, but liked Nazis for their economic policies?
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 12:41 PM
Nov 2023

Answer: Nazis

Probatim

(2,542 posts)
44. That's the fine point to finish my comments.
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 01:48 PM
Nov 2023

If you aren't making any headway, slap the snot out of them with it.

Jrose

(842 posts)
10. DjT's statement that there are 'good people' on both sides:
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 12:00 PM
Nov 2023

While he resided in the White House, DjT stated that there were 'good people' among those in a Charlottesville march who shouted 'Jews will not replace us'.
His praise and encouragement of neo-Nazis and dictators, such as Putin, has continued and accelerated ever since.
There is only one 2024 presidential candidate who sincerely represents American democracy... He will, with our unflinching support, be re-elected by a big 💙 wave.

gab13by13

(21,400 posts)
12. Trump talked about illegal immigrants
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 12:04 PM
Nov 2023

poisoning the blood of Americans and his crowd cheered.

The 2025 Project is rolling on.

bif

(22,744 posts)
21. His scumbag followers eat that stuff up!
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 12:14 PM
Nov 2023

They're all on the same page as the 400-pound slab of human gristle.

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
24. How many are ..."True Followers?"....What percent of the population are ...."Scumbag Followers"
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 12:27 PM
Nov 2023

....When the word gets around that Trump is a "True Fascist" and supports Adolph Hitler, then how many will support him then?

Will Trump say he supports Hitler?....Then, Why use his words?....Tough Answer to That Question...What do you think?



sarisataka

(18,767 posts)
23. LOL
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 12:24 PM
Nov 2023


Even if he did quote Hitler (he didn't) what gives the notion any of his base would turn from him?

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
29. When it is shown that Trump uses Hitler's words, ideas, style, some of the base would...Turn From Him
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 12:39 PM
Nov 2023

But that will take a lot of time. When people point out that Trump is using Hitler's style...then after a while, people
will turn from him.......

When close friends tell supporters that ...Trump is using the, "Style of Adolph Hitler." that is when people will turn from
Trump. When the media points that out also, then there will be 2 sources of that opinion. If there are many other
sources that Trump is using " Hitler's Style" then over time people will see that truth.

sarisataka

(18,767 posts)
34. Using "Hitler style" is not a direct quote
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 12:45 PM
Nov 2023

As you repeatedly claim.

He has been using the "strong man style" (it isn't unique to nor originated with Hitler) all along.

He pushes the envelope to see what he can get away with. If there is push back he retreats and claims he didn't say what he said. (Sony, can't think of an example at the moment) As for calling people vermin, there was barely a ripple.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
27. His minions including elected representatives have been doing it for years
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 12:35 PM
Nov 2023

It hasn't hurt them one bit.

They embrace the fascism.

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
35. The true impact of Trump using . "Facism" will be that his support will go down to maybe 20 percent
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 12:48 PM
Nov 2023

In the end...20 percent will........".NOT WIN AN ELECTION"

When people point out that Trump is a supporter of ..".Facism" and friends and family point that out also, Trump's support
will go down to 20 percent or less. Especially when Facism is exposed as the ideas of Adolph Hitler.

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
36. Fascism is Hitler. When that connection is made the Trumpers will stop supporting Trump...Now the truth is
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 12:58 PM
Nov 2023

that he may retain 20 percent of the electorate in the United States, but many Trumpers do not know the connection
between Hitler and Fascism, and they do not know what Fascism is/was.
......................When that is exposed as the truth...then that is when Trump will go down to 20 percent.......

........................And it will take time to get down to 20 percent. And with 20 percent Trump will not win any election ever.

ALSO, MOST PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW WHAT FACISM IS/WAS AND HOW IT DEVELOPS. AS THAT INFORMATION GETS
OUT AND PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IT...FRIEND TO FRIEND...THAT IS WHEN TRUMP WILL GET DOWN TO 20 PERCENT.
THIS IS NOT 1948...when everyone knew what fascism was/is.........................................

THIS IS 2023..........NOT EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT FASCISM, AND NOT EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT HITLER EITHER.

(IN RUSSIA 27 MILLION WERE KILLED BY WWII AND HITLER....EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT THAT WAR AND ITS
AFFECTS ON PEOPLE, AND EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT HITLER DID AND KILLED )

NOT EVERYONE IN THE UNITED STATES KNOWS, BUT JEWISH PEOPLE KNOW BECAUSE OF WHAT HITLER DID
TO JEWS. ( IT COMES WITH OUR UPBRINGING AND OUR HISTORY)

BlueTsunami2018

(3,503 posts)
37. Until he dies, there is no "end of Тяцмр".
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 01:00 PM
Nov 2023

That motherfucker has a 50/50 shot at winning the Presidency back next year. All this talk of him being “done” is so ridiculous. Even if he were somehow to be jailed, which he won’t be no matter what, he can still win.

That’s how crazy this country is. That’s how misguided and ridiculous it is.

Using a Hitler quote is nothing compared to actually attempting a coup and it seems to have phased no one.

We’re stuck with this asshole in some form until he’s no more.

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
40. I would argue Trump has no chance at winning the Presidency. Why? Trump caused a riot that is why.
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 01:32 PM
Nov 2023

When the 2024 election is ongoing, that is when all the crap that Trump caused will be exposed again. I don't think
Trump will get nominated by the Republican Party no matter what happens. Why?...........................................
..................Here is reason why................During an election every bad thing that a candidate did is exposed.

.....................DONALD TRUMP CAUSED A RIOT TO WIN AN ELECTION THAT HE LOST.....

now....if you don't think that will be exposed again, and again, and again..........then you don't know what elections do or
say....Every bad thing that a person does is exposed again at election time. If not in the exact news, then in talk about
the election... We know that Trump caused a riot and sat in front of the TV and watched the riot....it is common news..

That will all come out again if Trump runs. It won't be nice ads about Donald Trump....Those ads will be as mean
as one could imagine to destroy Trump's chances of winning the election. Yes, that is what our side will do in
an election with Trump. Trump will play dirty, so we will play dirty and mean too.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,503 posts)
55. The thing is, most people don't care about any of that.
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 04:31 PM
Nov 2023

I mean, people on the left do but none of the Republicans do, certainly not the cult, and independents are generally wishy washy idiots. That’s all yesterday’s news to the general public.

And he’s definitely getting the GOP nomination, there’s no one even close to him. He wins that in a walk. Anyone who dares oppose him gets politically whacked. You really think Republicans will deny him the nod at the convention after he crushes in delegates? No chance.

Yeah, ads from our guys are going to focus on how horrible he is but that’s what people like about him. You know the public, they’re sick of hearing about it all and they don’t know what to believe. The misinformation campaign has worked wonderfully.

The election is basically a coin flip no matter what happens. And it’s terrifying.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
41. What???
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 01:37 PM
Nov 2023

We already saw "the end of Trump." It was the Access Hollywood tape. No wait, it was it the mocking of a disabled reporter. No no, it was attack of a gold star family. Nope, it was the mocking of John McCain being a POW. Shit, that wasn't it it either. Oh I know, it was the divulging of classified info to the Russians in the Oval Office! Yeah that was it. No wait....fuck ..I'm done!

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
43. No
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 01:43 PM
Nov 2023

he did not use a "direct quote". He used "similar language". That's like saying I used IS in a statement and then claiming I directly quoted Hitler because he also used IS in statements! Trump did NOTHING he hasn't been doing all along.

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
45. Let's put the show into context. Joe Biden is running for President again.
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 01:57 PM
Nov 2023

Will Joe beat Trump and does Joe know how to beat this as**ole? What do you think?

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
47. Make no mistake. tRump is following
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 02:33 PM
Nov 2023

the Nazi playbook of telling the people what he intends to do if given the chance. There will be no surprise if and when he institutes a full blown dictatorship with all of the despotic implications. It's code red time to preserve our democracy.

ificandream

(9,386 posts)
50. I think he all but ruined his chances with independent voters a long time ago.
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 03:20 PM
Nov 2023

This only strengthens that thought. He is so desperate for maga love he'll say anything. He isn't paying attention to the fact that magas aren't the only voters out there.

Model35mech

(1,552 posts)
51. Trump keeps a copy of Hitler's speeches next to his bed
Wed Nov 15, 2023, 03:26 PM
Nov 2023

Plagarism of, and 'borrowing' from, Hitler speeches by Trump is something I sort of expected to read about.

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