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kpete

(72,150 posts)
Thu Nov 16, 2023, 04:03 PM Nov 2023

Support for Netanyahu nosedives after almost 6 weeks of war

Support for Netanyahu nosedives after almost 6 weeks of war: @N12 poll: Likud plunges to 17 seats, loses almost half of its strength. Gantz’s party soars to 36 seats. Current Netanyahu coalition: 45 seats (down from 64) @amit_segal


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peppertree

(22,079 posts)
4. Especially of someone already known as the Israeli Machiavelli
Thu Nov 16, 2023, 05:42 PM
Nov 2023

I'm sure a lot of Israelis are also curious as to how the Gaza perimeter - one of the world's most sophisticated - could've been disactivated so quickly and effectively, and undetected.

Warpy

(111,802 posts)
5. Yes, especially when it turns out you were warned about it
Thu Nov 16, 2023, 05:52 PM
Nov 2023

and totally discounted the possibility.

I suppose Netanyahu thought a war would keep him in power.

I sincerely hope he thought wrong.

Warpy

(111,802 posts)
15. Here is one article
Thu Nov 16, 2023, 07:12 PM
Nov 2023
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67082047

There are more.

It looks like Putin has been arming Hamas for years, most of the stuff Israel is finding in tunnels, hospital areas, schools, and other hiding places is Russian.

CincyDem

(6,486 posts)
2. Unfortunately he's there until 11/25 unless he resigns or the coalition breaks.
Thu Nov 16, 2023, 04:47 PM
Nov 2023

Possible he could be impeached but that’s a high bar in the Knesset that’s unlikely, even after this shit show.

The only hope is that one or more of the bigger coalition parties drops out. Could happen but their supporters are probably in that 27% support.

So unless Biden can talk him, or pressure him, into resigning…we’re stuck with him for 2 more years.



AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
9. This looks promising...
Thu Nov 16, 2023, 06:19 PM
Nov 2023
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israeli-likud-party-members-discuss-plans-to-oust-netanyahu/3053365

Israeli Likud party members discuss plans to oust Netanyahu

Israeli ministers and lawmakers from the ruling Likud party are discussing a plan to oust current Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Israeli media reported Tuesday.

Channel 13 News reported that the plan includes recruiting 61 lawmakers to pass a vote of no confidence on Netanyahu's government, and to form a new government without going to elections.

Channel 13 added that the Likud lawmakers fear that if Netanyahu stays at the party helm and then leads it into a loss in the next elections, most of those lawmakers will not be part of the Israeli political system.

It added that after the end of the military ground operation in Gaza, which so far shows no signs of concluding, the lawmakers will move ahead with their plans to have a parliamentary session to oust Netanyahu.

CincyDem

(6,486 posts)
10. Agreed...it does.
Thu Nov 16, 2023, 06:23 PM
Nov 2023

On the surface, it gives Bibi personal incentive to keep the military ground operation going beyond what's necessary to secure the hostages. My guess is that if the hostages are freed, Bibi's out the next day no matter what military operations may still be in progress.

Nasruddin

(763 posts)
12. At the least
Thu Nov 16, 2023, 06:43 PM
Nov 2023

At least Israel has a mechanism for getting rid of hopeless incompetents in leadership - they should be taking advantage of it now!

It's dangerous to leave this person in power. He's essentially a collaborator (at best, a useful idiot) with Hamas. Expecting he can fix a giant problem he created out of (at best) incompetence is folly. The apparent murderous fiasco of Al Shifa hospital is not grounds for optimism!

Bev54

(10,184 posts)
6. I would love to see the back of him but it is really disgusting that it took such a drastic and
Thu Nov 16, 2023, 05:54 PM
Nov 2023

catastrophic event to see their support plummet. The Israeli people need to quit playing with the hard RW that has allowed Bibi to stay in power. Put him in jail for the bribery and fraud that he was being tried for, while they sort out if there is more to come with crimes against humanity. Vote for someone who truly wants peace in the region.

LuvLoogie

(7,157 posts)
16. They'll still annex the West Bank, though.
Thu Nov 16, 2023, 07:37 PM
Nov 2023

They'll continue the settlements. And they won't be in any hurry to rebuild Gaza unless it's for Israelis to move into.

Likud removing Netanyahu is like MAGA NUTS removing Kevin McCarthy.

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