Why isn't there more mocking from Dems

[cyclonefence]

of Trump's spectacular ignorance about just about everything? We post clips and quotes here and have a good laugh, but I can't help remembering how ruthless popular media--not just SNL--were about George W.'s stupidity. Why aren't we as Dems in congress and campaign workers and editorial writers more blatant about the astounding depth of Trump's ignorance--this is a guy, President of the goddam USA, who had to ask an aide "what's the big deal about Pearl Harbor?" And he went to fucking *military school*.

I know that part of the problem is preaching to the choir. MAGAs do not read or listen to anyone who disparages the Orange Rapist, but if we are relentless, our smirking at his stupidity might soak down through the layers of cotton wool his supporters have wrapped themselves in.

Making fun of him is our most potent weapon.

[doc03]

1. Look what they did with Dukakis in the tank and Kerry saying "John

Kerry reporting for duty". The Willie Horton ads and the Swift Boating. The Republicans don't hold back.

[Walleye]

8. And don't forget Al Gore "invented the Internet"

[DontBelieveEastisEas]

45. No, but he did invent AlGorithms nt

[bottomofthehill]

54. And Deplorables

Mrs Clinton got crushed for that. I still think true, but she got crushed.

[bucolic_frolic]

2. Making fun of him exposes him

He's pretty exposed already. We appear less serious if we mock him. Might even appear mean, rubbing it in like that. We are serious government servants, we have gravitas. Trump has ego and more ego and disorders.

[cyclonefence]

4. I think it's time to drop the nice guy attitude

and mock him mercilessly. We have been too kind (and condescending, if you think about it) to him and his bunch of Yahoos, who are all clearly afraid of acknowledging the Emperor's lack of intelligence.

[ChazInAz]

12. I still wonder

Whatever happened to those nekkid fiberglass statues of him?

[lastlib]

28. And the diaper baby balloon?

That needs to get out more.

[swong19104]

21. Agreed.

The reason the right's effort work is because they throw everything including the kitchen sink at it, and they see which effort works and then amplify the working one. The right take the shot-gun approach: blast it with everything. We try to be that laser-guided precision sniper and try to hit with one round and one round only.

Forget it. Just hit him (and everyone else on the right) with any and all methods. Snide comments, jokes, veiled threats, whatever. Just overwhelm them with everything. See which ones make them flinch. See which ones dig deeper than usual. See which one catches on with the populace. Then pour salt on the wounds by amplifying the methods that connect.

It's a political war and we need to use any and all methods as part of our arsenal.

[._.]

52. I agree.

There is too much at stake now to hold back. It's time to empty the ammo locker, the Republic is at risk.

[OldBaldy1701E]

14. It is about the tone of said mockery.

We need to be dismissive when we laugh at him. There is an old saying in performer circles: There is no such thing as 'bad' publicity. Even making a spectacle out of him is still playing into his (and MAGA) hands. We need to start just laughing and walking away whenever any of them act up in the name of their orange deity. No major stories, no press hounding for responses... just point, laugh, and walk away shaking your head. THAT is what we need to be doing, collectively. Mockery and ridicule are fine, but it is being ignored that causes them the most mental damage. They cannot handle that. Take it from an old ham.

[CincyDem]

18. Momma always said "Bless his heart, he don't know no better" [in my best Forrest Gump voice]. n/t

[ChazInAz]

29. My uncle Karel used to say "Bless his pointy little head."

[CincyDem]

32. Even better !!!

[OldBaldy1701E]

37. My family used both! (n/t)

[PortTack]

20. Nailed it!

[cyclonefence]

25. You're right

This may or may not be true: JFK shaking his head with a rueful smile, "Where do they *get* these people?"

[malaise]

51. THIS

Rec

[mopinko]

3. i'll never get over the dean scream.

a quaint reminder of simpler times.

[badgolfer]

5. National Democrats

It appears that our Democratic leaders are only interested in sending out requests for campaign contributions.

Only a few Democrats are putting it to the Republicans, Raskin for one.

[Hekate]

31. If you don't like requests for money, you can unsubscribe. But will you then say you never hear from them?

Will you then wonder why you don’t know what they’re doing?
Of course they ask for money — it costs millions to run for office these days.

Are there any Democrats you do like? Do you know where to look up their activities?

What an exceedingly broad brush you use to condemn all Democrats. Why is that?

[badgolfer]

33. Funding campaigns

I gave to the DCCC recently and on the same day I get to more emails requesting more. I unsubscribed.

I have given plenty of funds to Vote Vets, DCCC, DSCC, Biden Victory, Crew, DNC, and Brennan Center. How about you?

Like I said they're not bashful about requesting funds, why be bashful about speaking out.

[Freethinker65]

6. Trump is not the official GOP candidate yet. Biden just gave his first campaign speech.

There is still work to be done in the current term with the current legislature. The House is pulling stunts at the border and threatening, once again, for the US to default paying its debts, while refusing to look at a Senate compromise immigration security Bill. Perhaps attack GOP House members. Attack Conservative States that are banning women with risky pregnancies from receiving life saving medical care.

Attack the policies of the GOP.

[DFW]

7. I made these with some friends over a few years. My conscience is clean!

&t=16s

and much etc.!

[niyad]

13. I continue to be in awe of the talent, and humour, and sheer brain power, of

you and your friends in these videos! I am just sorry, on behalf of all of us, that you have so much material from which to work!

[DFW]

41. Yes, so are we!!

I would have been happier if there were no such lyrics to write.

[ancianita]

16. DAMN AWESOME! THANK YOU! 2024 -- the year to spread these around.

[DFW]

42. Feel free!

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No restrictions.

This was our latest, by the way:

[ancianita]

46. Love it. Whoever the lyricist is should get an award.

[DFW]

48. Guilty as charged

I am the lyricist for the group

[ancianita]

49. Taylor Swift should hire you! She pays the best iin the business!

[DFW]

50. I don't know any of her songs or her style

She might pay well, but I might be the shortest term employee she ever had. Anyway, I‘ve never met her, and probably never will. On the other hand, I‘ve been at my present job for 49 years this August (a few raises in rank and salary along the way!). I‘m probably safer sticking with that. Although—I only do song lyrics in my spare time. Oh, OK, why not. Go ahead and tell her to contact me!

[ancianita]

53. Of course you wouldn't, but hey, now that you've got the joke, I appreciate your positive approach to that world...

Sure, I'll hook you up!

[pandr32]

17. Great stuff!

[DFW]

43. Thanks!

It's a healthier outlet than screaming in frustration.

[Hekate]

34. You guys are brilliant. Happy New Year, DFW!

[DFW]

44. Mahalo, Hekate!

We always appreciate the appreciation!

[Walleye]

9. President Ford fell down one time, and Chevy Chase made a living out of mocking him for it

[unblock]

10. We do mock them. The media just doesn't promote that from democrats.

You'll see occasion, isolated jabs about republicans, as one-offs, in a larger speech or whatever. But the coverage will be about a policy position or a gaffe or a defense against republican attack.

When they cover Donnie they often lead with his latest insult or bigoted comment, which really just reinforces and promotes his sick worldview.

Always remember how corrupted and biased our media has become. People who don't play ball with the preferred media narratives usually don't get invited back. It's not just about what democrats say. It's about what makes it through the media, repeatedly.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

11. Here are some clips from Trump's insane Iowa speech from last night.

Link to tweet

[ancianita]

15. Why not start a MockTrump thread? I'd contribute.

I'd rather do that than sit around and fault Dems for not doing it more.

We have to start somewhere, right? So why not start on the Underground? Spread it around?

You can bet it will get media attention eventually.

[Ford_Prefect]

19. They are mad far beyond any means of reason. They can no more appreciate irony than a dog does.

The difference is that even a dog can tell when things aren't right. MAGA are hypnotized and so polarized about dear leader that you could tell them almost anything and they'd believe it.

[Elessar Zappa]

23. Yeah but MAGA cultists are about 33% of the (voting) population.

That leaves a good number of Trump voters who may potentially be converted or are already on the fence. Mocking relentlessly would gain us a few percentage points, I suspect.

[Ferrets are Cool]

22. Are you sure it's not just the major news networks NOT reporting on it?

They ARE biased.

[cyclonefence]

26. There are voices out there

but we (they) are all preaching to the choir. Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen Colbert are the closest we have--to my knowledge-- to mainline mockery of all things MAGA, and I'm afraid only we lefties watch them any more.

I wish there were a mainstream comedian, someone the Right thinks is hilarious, brave enough to join us.

[whathehell]

27. I have been asking myself this SAME question

for years now..When it comes to
Trump, it's hardly a case of lacking material
I don't understand it at ALL and it frustrates me to no end.

[Poiuyt]

30. The late night comics skewer him every night

Nothing bothers Trump more than people laughing at him.

Personally, I thought the stink thing would have more of an impact than it did. Maybe once the campaigns get going in full swing we'll hear more.

[TSExile]

35. You have to beat them at their own game.

Other than Sen. Fetterman, I don't see a lot of Dems that are willing to go there. I hope a lot more of them will before Election Day.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

36. How do you think you would hear it?

You do realize that the way you would hear it is via the traitor media...right?

And you do realise that the one thing they loathe doing is giving Democrats any coverage at all, never mind positive coverage...right?

You're barking at the moon, rather than the villain in your own backyard.

[elocs]

38. "Making fun of him is our most potent weapon." No, because that's just juvenile and what Trump does and is.

The Left and Democrats don't need to be like Trump to win. We need to echo Biden's successes and what we support, warning of what a Trump victory would mean for America. The most important way for Trump to be defeated is for the Left to turn out and vote in record numbers for Biden and a straight Democratic ticket. No excuses, no voting for a 3rd party candidate which is useless. Sadly though, too many on the Left really are like herding cats. In 2016, how many on the Left thought Trump was a joke, that Hillary was sure to win giving them permission for vote for a 3rd party candidate (here in WI, Jill Stein of the Green Party received more votes than Trump's margin of victory and those didn't come from Republicans).
Voting is our superpower and we need to exercise it.

[betsuni]

40. Agree. Also encourages the stereotype of liberals being snobby elites.

Don't be the enemy they want.

[uponit7771]

39. Dems don't have amplification resources like MAGA

[MyNameIsJonas]

47. Because it doesn't work.

You say it's their most potent weapon but based on what?

The reality is that making fun of Trump isn't going to win over his voters and very well could turn off voters Biden needs to win who then think there really is no difference between both sides - that they're both juvenile and ugly.

You seem to be under the impression Biden is in direct competition with Trump for voters. I disagree. Trump isn't winning votes from Biden. If Biden doesn't win it's because he lost voters to third party candidates. These are voters who already hate Trump and have zero interest in voting for him but aren't sold on Biden for a second time.

Making fun of Trump isn't going to win those voters over.